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Rofl_Mao
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| BloodySpy wrote: | | I would cut pedos throats myself. In my book, there is nothing that can justify sexual abuse of children. I have a 3 yo son, and if some pedo would abuse him, i would kill that sick fuck on the spot. End of story. |
The end of the story will be that you'll spend years or even the rest of your life in jail. You'll be branded a murderer and your career and family will be fucked up. Then the pedo will also have ruined you. Are you willing to give control over your life and emotions to a child molester? Because that's what you're doing: the pedo can snap his fingers, you'll freak out and end up in jail. You'll probably end up as a bitter and impoverished man that has thrown away his life.
The far more sensible (and yes, difficult) thing to do is getting help to get your life back on track. The best revenge is success.
| Lopin18 wrote: | I think you played too much Fallout 3, Pedo Perk acquired.  |
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Sep 2011 12:11 Post subject: |
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| Rofl_Mao wrote: | | BloodySpy wrote: | | I would cut pedos throats myself. In my book, there is nothing that can justify sexual abuse of children. I have a 3 yo son, and if some pedo would abuse him, i would kill that sick fuck on the spot. End of story. |
The end of the story will be that you'll spend years or even the rest of your life in jail. You'll be branded a murderer and your career and family will be fucked up. Then the pedo will also have ruined you. Are you willing to give control over your life and emotions to a child molester? Because that's what you're doing: the pedo can snap his fingers, you'll freak out and end up in jail. You'll probably end up as a bitter and impoverished man that has thrown away his life.
The far more sensible (and yes, difficult) thing to do is getting help to get your life back on track. The best revenge is success. |
You always keep forgetting that ppl are basically controlled by their emotions. Emotions guide you, they can make your life perfect, but they can also make your life much worse.
But you cannot simply neglect them. Sure the most sensible thing wouldn't be to kill the pedo who ruined your child. But I'm betting everyones reaction (thought) here would be: I'd kill the guy if he did that to my child...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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dsergei
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Sep 2011 15:32 Post subject: |
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Yes, chemical castration is the perfect way to deal with it. Serious jail time to appease all the emotionally driven, take away any sexual desires to rehabilitate. Plus psych evaluation of all people who deal with children - parents/teachers/medical workers etc.
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Frant
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Sep 2011 15:36 Post subject: |
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| Yondaime wrote: | I just don't understand how it's somehow a more appropriate justice to jail a pedophilic rapist for x-amount of years (where X is determined by the amount of money said rapist has and thus what lawyer and the amount of said lawyers rapist can have) than to simply kill him?
Tell me, in your honest mind, what good will jailing such a person do? They've already potentially ruined one life, unquestionably caused an extreme amount of pain and duress (not just physical but also mental instability), why should it be alright to jail that kind of a person and then release him? If it was justice that person would be spending the rest of his life in prison because he has ruined ONE life for another person already.
I know a rapist is mentally ill in one way or another but that doesn't mean it's somehow less worse.
Maybe I'm just being insensitive or very cold about this but I just can't understand the argument that jailing a pedophilic rapist is somehow more justified than killing him? If the evidence is unquestionable and the guilt is really without any single doubt, then why is it not okey to kill him off and be done with it? No chance of him ever repeating his offense and the world will be better off without him (don't you agree that it will be?).
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Where do we draw the line? Is it an arbitrary line where we kill off rapists, murderers, muggers, people with various psychological disorders etc.? Are you the one to decide what's right or wrong?
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Frant
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Sep 2011 15:37 Post subject: |
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| dingo_d wrote: | | Rofl_Mao wrote: | | BloodySpy wrote: | | I would cut pedos throats myself. In my book, there is nothing that can justify sexual abuse of children. I have a 3 yo son, and if some pedo would abuse him, i would kill that sick fuck on the spot. End of story. |
The end of the story will be that you'll spend years or even the rest of your life in jail. You'll be branded a murderer and your career and family will be fucked up. Then the pedo will also have ruined you. Are you willing to give control over your life and emotions to a child molester? Because that's what you're doing: the pedo can snap his fingers, you'll freak out and end up in jail. You'll probably end up as a bitter and impoverished man that has thrown away his life.
The far more sensible (and yes, difficult) thing to do is getting help to get your life back on track. The best revenge is success. |
You always keep forgetting that ppl are basically controlled by their emotions. Emotions guide you, they can make your life perfect, but they can also make your life much worse.
But you cannot simply neglect them. Sure the most sensible thing wouldn't be to kill the pedo who ruined your child. But I'm betting everyones reaction (thought) here would be: I'd kill the guy if he did that to my child... |
It becomes a problem when emotions overtake your intellect and you become a tool instead of having control over your faculties. That's why we have a system of law in most of the world.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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LeoNatan
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Sep 2011 21:54 Post subject: |
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So let's cut a thief's hands - that will ensure he won't steal again!
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Rofl_Mao
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Sep 2011 09:30 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | So let's cut a thief's hands - that will ensure he won't steal again! |
He won't jerk off again 
Putting all madness on a stick... I think you've got a point. I believe pedophilia belongs to someones character and identity. It's not something like speeding you can solve by fining people.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Sep 2011 14:22 Post subject: |
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It's funny to me that people get angry enough to kill a pedophile, which is fine with me if they're really guilty, but the Catholic church has sheltered thousands of pedos through the centuries, and who knows how many boys have been molested by priests, yet people are calm, rational, and not too pissed about that? Entire schools and orphanages were used as brothels, yet I've never heard of a priest being attacked, or a church being burned down. Where's the same kind of anger for those guys?
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Sep 2011 16:54 Post subject: |
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| Rofl_Mao wrote: | | iNatan wrote: | | So let's cut a thief's hands - that will ensure he won't steal again! |
He won't jerk off again
Putting all madness on a stick... I think you've got a point. I believe pedophilia belongs to someones character and identity. It's not something like speeding you can solve by fining people. |
That's not true. Even if a pedophile is a rapist, chemical castration would still kill his urge. So we get to the more general question of should a rapist of any "kind" be killed? |
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Sep 2011 17:07 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | Rofl_Mao wrote: | | iNatan wrote: | | So let's cut a thief's hands - that will ensure he won't steal again! |
He won't jerk off again
Putting all madness on a stick... I think you've got a point. I believe pedophilia belongs to someones character and identity. It's not something like speeding you can solve by fining people. |
That's not true. Even if a pedophile is a rapist, chemical castration would still kill his urge. So we get to the more general question of should a rapist of any "kind" be killed? |
But how do you know that rapist rape only because of his 'urge'? Maybe they are some sick psychopaths. What good would chemical castration do in that case?
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Sep 2011 17:31 Post subject: |
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Hilarious " But if her solution is murdering the child rapist, she doesn't seem any better than the raping pedo to me", considering this guy is actually raping her daugher, shes the worst there is!
Everyone seems to have a nice concept, theory etc, still.... nice stab ffs, 1 less pedo alive, i hope women keep doing it and justice to start considering it as motherly love  . And i doubt the urge would go away with the castration, remember, hes probably enjoying it (mind), not just feeling it.
I share Yondaime's thoughts on this one. 100%
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Horrordee
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Sep 2011 18:50 Post subject: |
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What kind of sentence did she get for killing him? Life?
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Sep 2011 19:16 Post subject: |
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7 years iirc...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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Rofl_Mao
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Sep 2011 21:30 Post subject: |
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| Horrordee wrote: | | What kind of sentence did she get for killing him? Life? |
7 years in a luxury cell! That's what the right wing populists say about Holland's prison anyway. The woman suffered though... so I'm satisfied. Murderers should burn.
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Rofl_Mao
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Sep 2011 21:38 Post subject: |
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"Baby im sorry, im in jail because i killed the man who was abusing you all that time, but hes gone and payed for it, dont worry"
Humanity really has some neat funny ways of handling things. If you can kill unintencionally someone who atacked you first and be considered as Self-Defense, why cant these cases be considered under the horrendous facts that lie behind the killing of that man?
7 years for killing your daugther's raper, 7 fucking years for killing a rapist that had ur daughter, ye ye ye police handle it, let the law handle it, but it happened and if i were a judge i would let her off under psychological counsel and help, for underneat it all theres a something we just cant ignore... and to think some people judge her for it, to think this guy if under the law could have actually gotten away with it or get a comfortable sentence, HAH Death suits him, well done.
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Rofl_Mao
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| Lopin18 wrote: | "Baby im sorry, im in jail because i killed the man who was abusing you all that time, but hes gone and payed for it, dont worry"
Humanity really has some neat funny ways of handling things. If you can kill unintencionally someone who atacked you first and be considered as Self-Defense, why cant these cases be considered under the horrendous facts that lie behind the killing of that man?
7 years for killing your daugther's raper, 7 fucking years for killing a rapist that had ur daughter, ye ye ye police handle it, let the law handle it, but it happened and if i were a judge i would let her off under psychological counsel and help, for underneat it all theres a something we just cant ignore... and to think some people judge her for it, to think this guy if under the law could have actually gotten away with it or get a comfortable sentence, HAH Death suits him, well done. |
All that bloodlust reminds me of shariah 
| Lopin18 wrote: | | I think you played too much Fallout 3, Pedo Perk acquired. |
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Sep 2011 00:50 Post subject: |
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Missing the point, but thats whats been happening ever since the thread started. Oh well...
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. Killing rapists in general seems pretty much impossible, not many Western countries left that still execute the death sentence.
