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Supino




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 16:25    Post subject:
ok sorry palleburn! I stand corrected
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m2rock




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 16:25    Post subject:
Do you have a link to the UT2k7 trailer? I cant find it :/
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 16:26    Post subject:
You are cured supino Very Happy

Here you go man.
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748505/vids_1.html
Quite impressive for just 2months of work Smile
The second movie is the movie with tim showing that it's realtime.
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m2rock




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 16:37    Post subject:
I thought that the part in MotorStorm where you see the Bungie from the 3rd person just behind it as it turned a bit left and right looked in game. 1:00min into the trailer for 2 seconds

Ah they froze the game world and looked around with the camera, would be cooler to see it done when the game was in motion.


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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 16:49    Post subject:
There were more games that were in realtime, like those other two fps games and a few more, but they weren't as impressive (they were still great though) as the three I named above. Smile

No clue about motorstorm though, maybe it is, maybe it's not, only time will tell Smile
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m2rock




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 16:52    Post subject:
Cool thing is that atleast the developers of the UT2k7 said was that the dev work on the ps3 is quite easy. That is great. Oh cant wait for the x360-PS3
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 16:56    Post subject:
$500, I wonder if all the kids are going to be able to persuade mommy to fork out that amount of cash.

$300 is alot more reasonable. I just hope it's £200 here, as it wouldn't be fair if they charge the american public $300 and the british public £300.


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Supino




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 16:58    Post subject:
It would be nice if you posted links to the source, pellebrun. I have a tendency to write about things that I'm not 100 % sure about, so let us collect the facts so that things can be properly discussed.
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 17:06    Post subject:
Ah well i'm not too hyped about the PS3's release any more. When it's closer to the release date we'll have alot more information to get excited over.

Until then, i'll stick with Xbox360, because I hate getting hyped so far from release.

This is just sonys way of trying to ruin the xbox's hype party.


"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D

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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 17:13    Post subject:
Just look at the movies, both the ut2k7 and fight night demo is stopped and manipulated Smile
For heavenly sword you can check the forums over at beyond3d.

About killzone2:
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23037&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

"So I got some answers...

My friend works at Axis, an animation studio in the UK ( http://www.axisanimation.com ) It is the same studio that created the first Killzone's rendered cinematics (they've got a BAFTA award for it).

Here's what he can officially say:
- The trailer was made to the specification of the next-generation hardware and is representative of the look and feel of the actual game.
- Axis has provided the content, models and animation for the trailer. These have been made to fit the specification of the game and are intended to be used in the game.

That's all he's allowed to say. Interpret it as you will."

I sense good things Wink
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Diob




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 17:16    Post subject:
Quote:
This is just sonys way of trying to ruin the xbox's hype party.


ehhhh what about microsoft releasing halo 3 on PS3 launch party
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 17:28    Post subject:
Diob wrote:
Quote:
This is just sonys way of trying to ruin the xbox's hype party.


ehhhh what about microsoft releasing halo 3 on PS3 launch party


What about it?

Hey, it's a fair business manoeuver, did you think I was putting sony down for doing this? It's the logical thing to do.


"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D

"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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Supino




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 17:30    Post subject:
ok then. This is how I see it (from a 100 % neutral perspective):

XBOX 360:
Focused mostly on the LIVE part and the line-up of XBOX 360 launch games. They did not make a good impression on what the next gen. have to offer in terms of "blow away" demos.

PS3:
Did a better job of showing how next gen games WILL look like. They had more focus on the 'next gen' part. This is what E3 is all about, so I don't blame them for that...

Nintendo:
Focused mostly on handhelds and GameCube.

I just hope Killzone 2 and Motor Storm will be what we see. I think they will, but they're still too far away.
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cybersurfer




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 20:52    Post subject:
Benoyd wrote:
Ill go with revolution cause i love nintendo games and when i get the chance to play Nes,Snes,N64 and my GC games on the same machine is reason enough for me to grab the Revolution when it airs Smile


I can already play all those on my Xbox, I don't have a clue at what nintendo is doing anymore
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Splinter




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2005 16:14    Post subject:
Now iv change my mind ill go whit the ps3 cuz the performance and cuz they Do Great games + ps3 is the Future Console =)
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kurisu




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th May 2005 12:51    Post subject:
ps3 becasue the catalgue will be more varied, the announced games are the most interesting of the three, and i like j-rpg and jap fighters / shooters so xbox doesn't appeal to me as there is only american crap coming out for it.


don't i need some magical illegal thing?
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kurisu




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th May 2005 12:57    Post subject:
Supino wrote:
Microsoft did a honest demostration on REAL xbox 360 hardware, even if it was in alpha.

PS3 showed just one TRUE realtime demo: Unreal Engine 3. The others where estimated scripts and not realtime!!


bullshit, xbox360 demo's ran on apple g5 hardware, at least the ps3 demo's ran on a cell processor. and there was more then one demo. i wonder why people bother to make a post with so little knowledge.


don't i need some magical illegal thing?
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cybersurfer




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st May 2005 01:01    Post subject:
kurisu wrote:
Supino wrote:
Microsoft did a honest demostration on REAL xbox 360 hardware, even if it was in alpha.

PS3 showed just one TRUE realtime demo: Unreal Engine 3. The others where estimated scripts and not realtime!!


bullshit, xbox360 demo's ran on apple g5 hardware, at least the ps3 demo's ran on a cell processor. and there was more then one demo. i wonder why people bother to make a post with so little knowledge.


YA really...

I'm starting not to like microsoft, I didn't like the wording on the backwards compatability thing. Did you guys listen to how they worded it, It sounds like only the top games will be backwards compatable. I didn't the like the way microsoft tiptoes around things.
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kintama




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st May 2005 01:23    Post subject:
I'll buy the PS3 and the Xbox360. They will both have some amazing games!
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Diob




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st May 2005 12:02    Post subject:
lol check this out. correct me if i'm wrong, but this is microsoft's analyse and not IGN's. so now u can see how stupid microsoft is.....by comparing their hardware with the hardware from the ps3 and coming with conclusions. OMG

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html
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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st May 2005 13:11    Post subject:
lol how pathetic, especially the line "Keep in mind that Sony has a track record of over promising and under delivering on technical performance".
they can talk shit as much as they want, the ps3 presentations were alot more spectacular than the xbox360 ones, and that sums uo everything.
even if we disregard killzone and motor storm, microsoft hasnt shown anything nearly as impressive as the getaway london presentation.


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Supino




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st May 2005 13:14    Post subject:
If that is done by Microsoft, it doesn't tell us anything
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Supino




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st May 2005 13:19    Post subject:
kurisu wrote:
Supino wrote:
Microsoft did a honest demostration on REAL xbox 360 hardware, even if it was in alpha.

PS3 showed just one TRUE realtime demo: Unreal Engine 3. The others where estimated scripts and not realtime!!


bullshit, xbox360 demo's ran on apple g5 hardware, at least the ps3 demo's ran on a cell processor. and there was more then one demo. i wonder why people bother to make a post with so little knowledge.


If you'd read all my post, you'd see that I said I'm sorry already. I jumped to conclusions. The PS3 did have many Real-Time demos, but SOME where "Estimates".. So saying just one realtime was stupid, i agree.
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DethZero




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st May 2005 15:58    Post subject:
tech demo's are useless and never represent the final product. I'm still waiting on PS2 to render Toy Story in Real-Time.


In my honest opinion, I think x360 and ps3 will perform VERY close. From the reports everywhere I've been reading yesterday, CELL does super fantastic floating point calculations, but it falls short in terms of other processing power.

One of the biggest kicks is that audio is processed on the CPU on both machines. Having a triple core processor handling 2 64bit threads per core wins hands down when it comes to rendering 5.1 audio real time. A dual threaded SINGLE core CPU will lose that battle. As such, I think you'll find a lot of PS3 games will have Dolby PL II and cut scenes in 5.1


I'm still getting both systems coz I'm a real gamer =D However, I'm undecided about Nintendo Revolution. Nintendo didnt show anything about it =[


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Diob




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st May 2005 17:51    Post subject:
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If that is done by Microsoft, it doesn't tell us anything


exactly!
maybe microsoft thinks their losing @ the moment and they come with bull**** like this

let us wait for some real benchmarks instead of MS propaganda!
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st May 2005 18:41    Post subject:
DethZero wrote:
tech demo's are useless and never represent the final product. I'm still waiting on PS2 to render Toy Story in Real-Time.


Do you realise that it was Microsoft that actually said this thing about toy story graphics in their xbox?
I have no idea why so many think it was sony.......


"One of the basic premises of the Xbox is to put the power in the hands of the artist," Blackley said, which is why Xbox developers "are achieving a level of visual detail you really get in 'Toy Story.'"

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-250632.html?legacy=cnet

""These guys are achieving the level of visual detail that you really did get in Toy Story" he said before directing young Malice to run an ominous machine called the "deathroller" over a fleet of wriggling bugs."

http://www.gamenationtv.com/hardware/xboxrevealed.shtml

"Gates claimed that the graphics of the Xbox are like an interactive Toy Story 2."

http://balder.prohosting.com/newtonip/archive/0101.html


Laughing

Maybe sony also claimed this (as far as I know it was just microsoft) but if they did, they were obviously not alone since Microsoft did it which is proven above Laughing
Maybe this can end this "lets bash the ps2 because they lied about the graphics" bullshit.
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st May 2005 18:44    Post subject:
Well they didn't lie about the graphics, neither company has. The potential is there for the Xbox360 to achieve toy story 2 like graphics, and the playstation 3 already has with killzone 2. Which by the way pallebrun was confirmed to be real gameplay, W00T! Very Happy


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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st May 2005 20:17    Post subject:
But this was for the original xbox, so I would say they did lie quite big Smile

Anyway.
Confirmed, seriously? Where?!?!?!?
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st May 2005 21:50    Post subject:
Oh yeah, that was a damn lie then! Oh well.

Anyway here are a couple of PS3 developers being interviewed;

http://rapidshare.de/files/1872577/Demo.mpg.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/1872927/Demo2.mpg.html

They confirm that killzone 2 and Heavenly Sword are both real gameplay videos. Which is amazing!


"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D

"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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gui1e




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st May 2005 21:54    Post subject:
Here's another bit of tasty info

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html

I'll wait and see what both consoles can deliver before buying.


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