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Neon
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Feb 2025 19:28    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
ps.
The 5080 in Norway is 1600 € and 1700 € in Sweden.
The 5090 in Norway and Sweden is 3000 €.


Scalpers are selling the 5090 for 5000 EUR on the Polish equivalent of eBay Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Feb 2025 19:46    Post subject:
4090 is still €2500 here btw Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Feb 2025 19:50    Post subject:
PFFFFF
https://www.pcdiga.com/componentes/placas-graficas/placas-graficas-nvidia/placa-grafica-msi-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-blackwell-suprim-liquid-soc-32g-gddr7-dlss4-912-v530-011-4711377296380

MSI ultra re-tard edition mens, only 3K yuro Laughing


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Feb 2025 20:10    Post subject:
as bauer said in germany the sale link leaked an hour before official sale . all bought up by bots

some scalper bribed someone for the link,. but in stead of just terminating all the sales that happened before official launch time nvidia didnt give a fuck and just let it be or the retailer partner

so in stead of investigating the fraud and canceling the illegal orders ... they said fuck the german consumer, hope they get sued
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Feb 2025 20:42    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfvSkyiXUD8


Why is she even there ? Her place is in the kitchen cooking meals and wash dishes. Leave the games to men. Btw, I have never seen in my whole life that a women is spending zwei tousent bucks on a video card.

Devil Troll
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Feb 2025 21:39    Post subject:
when the videocards getting as big and expensive as their LV retarded bags ... welll there u have ur answer Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Feb 2025 23:14    Post subject:
Men, do you recommend updating the Vbios for the Asus TUF 3080 10GB OC? I see there are at least three newest at the support page. Mainly concerning Resizable Bar.


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escalibur




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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2025 10:07    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
4090 is still €2500 here btw Laughing


Used 4090s are selling for about 1800-2000€ here in Finland. People wonder 'why' but there is no better card for the money available at this moment as crazy at it sounds. Everyone has own opinion whether it is worth the money or not but this is still the case.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2025 16:19    Post subject:
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-5090d-gpus-getting-bricked-possibly-driver-bios-pcie-issues/

Laughing


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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couleur
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2025 16:36    Post subject:
pretty expensive brick. Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2025 16:40    Post subject:
At least it'll only affect 2 people.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2025 17:15    Post subject:
imagine buying 5090 just for modern shit games Laughing
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2025 17:32    Post subject:
not even mentioning that on my 4k oled tv the games look perfect on 1080p 120hrz ...

4k is just a scam for gaming

fake frames Mind Is Full Of Fuck Dude Cool
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2025 18:05    Post subject:
relevant btw

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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2025 18:13    Post subject:
with this new 4x frame gen i bet optimization will be even more nonexistant Laughing Games will soon run like 10fps without every single AI trick Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2025 19:58    Post subject:
Areius wrote:
At least it'll only affect 2 people.


Laughing Laughing Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2025 20:01    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
with this new 4x frame gen i bet optimization will be even more nonexistant Laughing Games will soon run like 10fps without every single AI trick Laughing


We're getting close to the point where PC gaming is killed off and the majority of PC gamers who don't want consoles will get over it and go console.

A PS5 is around 500€-700€ depending on which model. You can get 5-6 PS5's for the price of a single 5090!


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SumZero




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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2025 20:20    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
We're getting close to the point where PC gaming is killed off and the majority of PC gamers who don't want consoles will get over it and go console.

I don't want to game that bad Razz
Plus most of what I play isn't on consoles. The last one I had was a SNES in 1995(?). Then got a PC and realized it was far better for me.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2025 20:56    Post subject:
Well, I have a huge, extremely huge backlog. Even if I start playing them right now, I couldn't finish them in this lifetime.
Btw, the enthusiasm for spending small fortune on PC hardware has come to the end. The gamer in me has died. It was a long journey. Sad
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FireMaster




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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2025 21:02    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
Breezer_ wrote:
with this new 4x frame gen i bet optimization will be even more nonexistant Laughing Games will soon run like 10fps without every single AI trick Laughing


We're getting close to the point where PC gaming is killed off and the majority of PC gamers who don't want consoles will get over it and go console.

A PS5 is around 500€-700€ depending on which model. You can get 5-6 PS5's for the price of a single 5090!


That's assuming you need a 5090-5080 to game on PC. I'm out here still doing fine with an RX 580 8GB and a 3060.
If you put the 3 AAA games a year that come out bloated with ngreedia's bullshit you can run almost anything else with much older hardware if you tick off a box or two and aren't crazy
If the trend continues then yes, MOST people will be priced out but that's the death of many developers too if they dont adapt and optimize their shit to work on HW people can actually afford
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2025 21:59    Post subject:
Gaming is anyway almost completely died for me, games arent simply any good these days, some random good ones there and there...
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2025 22:00    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Gaming is anyway almost completely died for me, games arent simply any good these days, some random good ones there and there...
I KNEW IT! You fake gamer, you Troll Dad


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2025 22:08    Post subject:
This image perfectly shows why the 5080 is likened to a 5070/5070Ti



They should've used a chip with more CUDA and AI cores so it'd be closer to the 5090. The 5070 & 5070 Ti would also have more CUDA & AI cores. The gap between the 5090 and 5080 is ridiculous just like the power demands of the 5090.

The reason the 5090 needs that much power is because the silicon is so big and inefficient (relatively) that it has to use more power than normal to get it to run. Due to all that power the GPU gets incredibly hot, hence the new super-advanced cooler they had to create instead of a 4-5-slot behemoth. They also removed the hot spot sensor, probably to hide the fact that the GPU runs insanely hot.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2025 22:14    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
This image perfectly shows why the 5080 is likened to a 5070/5070Ti



They should've used a chip with more CUDA and AI cores so it'd be closer to the 5090. The 5070 & 5070 Ti would also have more CUDA & AI cores. The gap between the 5090 and 5080 is ridiculous just like the power demands of the 5090.

The reason the 5090 needs that much power is because the silicon is so big and inefficient (relatively) that it has to use more power than normal to get it to run. Due to all that power the GPU gets incredibly hot, hence the new super-advanced cooler they had to create instead of a 4-5-slot behemoth. They also removed the hot spot sensor, probably to hide the fact that the GPU runs insanely hot.


Reminds me of what they tried to pull a couple years back with the two versions of the 4080 (the cheaper one really being a rebranded 4070). So much outcry that they actually changed their plans.
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Feb 2025 01:11    Post subject:
Seeing how big 5080 and 5090 gap is, so there is room for 5080 super and 5080Ti, Super like 15% more perf than 5080 and 5080ti will be 24gb VRAM card with same performance than 4090 + ofcourse the fake frames.
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Feb 2025 17:34    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Feb 2025 18:29    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
4090 is still €2500 here btw Laughing


I have the rx 5700 what is that going for Very Happy
It can be flashed to rtx 5700 levels.


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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Feb 2025 14:02    Post subject:
honestly abandon all hope for normal prices this year. they on purpose already stopped making prevous gen cards already months ago to raise prices and create the shortages

if intel could ramp up production and just be a blue tsunami and steal market share .. but they dont have the balls, the spineles pricks

and im so effin tired of youtubers benching 5090 and 5080 now after fake paper release with every new game. f off showing off a card 99percent of people will never get . automatic downvote , i dont give a fuck how much fps kingom coks gets with the 5090

this payed for inflated clownshow needs to end.
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FireMaster




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Feb 2025 22:25    Post subject:
It's 600% market manipulation, those coming tariffs dont help either.

Just in case you didn't get the memo
https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-unveils-rog-astral-geforce-rtx-5090-dhahab-gold-edition

get your gold plated yusuf amir edition Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Feb 2025 11:40    Post subject:
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