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tskiller




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 03:08    Post subject:
Of course it is! Half the fun is sweating it out when you are about to power the damn thing on, hoping that you didn't short anything or go for the wrong lead, resulting in all the magic smoke escaping
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 10:41    Post subject:
Ah, I had almost given up on a new jtag method... never been so pleased to be proven wrong!!

Seems it's time to find something to bribe my electronics engenier friend with Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 12:01    Post subject:
same here,been told numeros times about the "almost unhackbliliy" of the box,that only the Drive left has the weak spot...


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slenoj




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 13:04    Post subject:
Xenons are not supported ?? Sad

I've manged to keep my 2 going all these years, at leats i think they are Xenons, how do I TELL?
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 13:09    Post subject:
The reason Xenons aren't supported is because the hack makes use of the 360's HANA chip (HDMI) whereas the Xenon only had the ANA chip. As best as I can tell.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 14:12    Post subject:
So that means very old 360's without HDMI cannot do this?


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 14:13    Post subject:
Correct, sadly. Though to be fair... why the hell would people want old non-HDMI models anyhow? grinhurt
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tskiller




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 14:16    Post subject:
Some of those still exist? Haven't those all gotten fried and RROD'ed by now anyways? Scratch Head
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 14:19    Post subject:
There's a booming market for Xenon JTAGs with reballed chips and 12v fans. Amazingly, once reballed and with better cooling, they last quite a while.
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bringiton




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 14:26    Post subject:
I asked because a friend of mine just bought one used, sadly it had been updated and was not J-tagable Sad

But my Box has HDMI, so I am waiting for an easy fix to do this. Very Happy


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tskiller




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 14:38    Post subject:
I can't decide if i want to buy the tools now, or wait for a task-specific modchip like device to come out. I mean, a JTAG programmer could potentially have some uses in the future aside from just xbox hacking, right?

I guess its kind of moot until there is a workable solution to actually run games.


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 15:54    Post subject:
I'd just sit tight for a while, it won't take long for a more friendly/cheaper way of using this hack to appear. and as sabin said there are jtag'ed machines available quiet cheap now if you can't wait.

I have just jtag'd a falcon that i managed to get cheap for £70 so i have one spare now. but i will definitely want a slim version once the hack has matured Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 15:57    Post subject:
If this isn't available as an easier method by December, I'll just buy a Falcon JTAG from ddsdavey once I return back to the UK for Christmas. I'd buy one now, but getting the machine through customs would cost me almost as much as the cost of purchase itself.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 16:02    Post subject:
I can vouch for him sabin, dealt with him twice now, very very helpfull and genuine guy.

Also did i not read that it can be slow for this hack to run a program because it is not always 100% successful? up to a minute or two!

Sabin you can always buy from david and send it to my house Wink

EDIT: - (Even in the glitch we found is pretty reliable (25% success rate per try on average), it can take up to a few minutes to boot to unsigned code.)

Now is that to install the hack, or is it to run any unsigned code after the hack?


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 16:06    Post subject:
The hack has a 25% chance of firing, but it repeats infinitely until it does - so yes, it CAN take up to 2 minutes, but it can also be as quick as 30s Very Happy As for ddsdavey? I've seen more than enough fantastic feedback to know I can trust him.. and his machines are beyond dirt cheap too, I'm almost tempted to save £50 and get one of his Xenons, to be honest. I just wish importing into Norway was cheaper Sad
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 16:10    Post subject:
Don't get a xenon mate, i think you would regret that. my mate across the road has an old xenon with the old dash, i have the jtag gear to do it but it's non hdmi!! and they are on borrowed time now. ohh did i mention no hdmi Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 16:11    Post subject:
"Almost" tempted. I'm not going to, I'll grab a Falcon once I'm back in England - or if this hack has been made easier I'll just use my existing Jasper-512. Oh and in regards to your edit; it's to run software. The hack is done via HW, but it has a 25% chance of launching the software each try - ie, XeLL, but once it's launched it's done until you turn off your machine again.

I can deal with a +/- 2 minute launch time. I've got an iPod Touch and that fucking piece of crap takes EASILY 2 minutes to boot.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 16:17    Post subject:
Ahh if it's launch Xell/Freebot then that's cool. turn it on make a brew or open a beer and good to go.


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 16:21    Post subject:
Yup!
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 17:29    Post subject:
All we need now is a final release of FSD 2 and it will be an early Christmas Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 17:37    Post subject:
Damn I just hope they'll release some sort of a modchip for easy installation Very Happy
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tskiller




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 17:57    Post subject:
I'm not sure how easy its going to end up being, unless they figure out a way to modify the firmware directly on the NAND instead of dumping it, inserting the payload on your PC, and reflashing it. Even if the do figure out a way to do it directly, you will still need to solder on the JTAG programmer, in addition to the FPGA that needs to stay soldered onto the xbox for the attack itself.


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 18:31    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Correct, sadly. Though to be fair... why the hell would people want old non-HDMI models anyhow? grinhurt


Believe me, it wasn't by choice for me.

I went over a friends house last year for a holiday visit and he gives me my original xbox 360 back to me that had been sitting in the garage for a long time. It had RROD'd but I got the fucker to fire up and was blessed with the old style blade dashboard. At this time the Jtag hack had just come out so it was a perfect time to do it.

I want a falcon for the HDMI. I can't stand the output quality of the component cables on my 3D 1080p HDTV. It sucks and I can tell the difference between HDMI & Component cuz I have a slim I use for most of my gaming. The Jtag I use for XBLA and some DLC packs.

My Xenon is still working but I'd trade it in for a HDMI output any day.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 18:35    Post subject:
I doubt you'll get any takers on that trade, so your best bet is to probably sell it on Fleabay as a JTAG-ready Xenon before the news of this hack becomes global and drops the worth of Xenon's even lower than they are now Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 18:40    Post subject:
I've thought about that but E-bay is cracking down on Jtag sellers.

True Story. I bought one from a guy on there and tried to re-list the item.
They pulled the auction.

I ended up selling it local so no loss but Fleabag is right. That whole site has changed.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 18:45    Post subject:
Oh. Your Xenon is already JTAGed... sorry mate. Since eBay is cracking down, stick it on Xbox-Scene or something?
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 19:26    Post subject:
I have a Xenon jtag machine. Its still good and working fine. But at this point of time I am little confused. Should I buy a new slim model or stick to my old one.

BTW is the new slim models are immune to RROD? If so which model?
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 19:30    Post subject:
No models are immune, but later models are less prone to overheating (the primary reason for RRoD) - anything Jasper and above should be pretty good for a long-ass time, as long as you don't keep the damned thing on a carpet or some place where it can suck in dust Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 19:31    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
No models are immune, but later models are less prone to overheating (the primary reason for RRoD) - anything Jasper and above should be pretty good for a long-ass time, as long as you don't keep the damned thing on a carpet or some place where it can suck in dust Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 19:32    Post subject:
My Jasper was made in 2009 and was owned prior to me, still going strong =)
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