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| Posted: Sun, 28th Aug 2011 19:49 Post subject: |
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| [sYn] wrote: | | How many people will be bothered to buy the gear needed and get it setup is another question. |
The "gear" in question out here, how expensive is it?
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Aug 2011 19:50 Post subject: |
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My opinion is only based on what they said in that article. The FAT version is really easy, using CPU_PLL_BYPASS to alter the clock frequency, which is what its designed to do. From then on its just a simple timing attack made far easier due to the fact the CPU is running crazy slow. The slim version looks far more complex but effectively does the same job. They would almost certainly need to change the hardware to fix it, locking out access to the I2C bus would do the trick, but I would expect there to be other methods of doing the same thing. I need to give it a better read through though, got my daughter laughing in my ear right now, makes it hard to concentrate  .
Did they release the VHDL for this version of the hack?
| Shawn_Hunter wrote: | | [sYn] wrote: | | How many people will be bothered to buy the gear needed and get it setup is another question. |
The "gear" in question out here, how expensive is it? |
Well they're using a Xilinx CPLD but any cheap FPGA board with the right interfaces would do the job I suspect. Once the FPGA is programmed you could stick it on a custom PCB and leave it inside the 360.. It wont be long until chips come out, assuming they release the VHDL (or someone who cares enough writes there own).
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Aug 2011 19:51 Post subject: |
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@sYn
Everything in that article, is everything publicly known at the moment mate. They were the guys to sort it. The software and the tutorial links are right there =)
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garus
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Aug 2011 20:19 Post subject: |
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It's actually not that bad. Dump the nand, insert payload, solder on CPLD, ????, profit! well a bit more complicated than that but you know what i mean. Not even that many solder points, either.
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Aug 2011 20:33 Post subject: |
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Its the preping of the CPLD that will cost as you need a programmer. Aside from that it wont be hard to do. I'd wait for a while though, its bound to get productised and improved on over the next few months.
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Looks like you can get some pure programming boards for almost nothing! Guess we'll see how it progresses.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Aug 2011 21:43 Post subject: |
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Which is still bullshit. "owning" the hardware is NOTHING when you can't run SOFTWARE on it. If a simple software update is enough to permanently halt any and all development, then it's pretty fucking obvious that it's not "permanently owned"
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JackQ
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Aug 2011 21:53 Post subject: |
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Not on LATEST software it's not, so therefore the HARDWARE hack is utterly fucking pointless. Not to mention the scene has stalled to a point which could almost be considered dead.
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deelix
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deelix
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Aug 2011 22:28 Post subject: |
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Id like to see more good exclusives for the ps3. There are some, no doubt. But iv tried them all at a friends house, and its... well just not worth buying a console over. And most games are multiplatform anyway :/
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 01:09 Post subject: |
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So is this new hack limited to 13146 or it goes beyond that?
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 01:11 Post subject: |
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XeLL Reloaded 28/08/2011 : First Official Version
| Quote: | Besides the "Reset Glitch Hack" there's another big announcement!
Cancerous, [cOz], Ced2911,GliGli, RedLine99 and Tuxuser are proud to release today the first official version of XeLL-Reloaded (Codename: 2Stages)
Here's a list of the major improvements:
* Its divided in 2 stages:
- 1st Stage initalizes the Hardware, uncompresses and executes 2nd Stage
- 2nd Stage (based on LibXenon) loads all required drivers and does the usual "XeLL tasks"
* XeLL is based on LibXenon now
* XeLL is running with all CPU cores activated
* Optimized CPU Usage
* TinyEHCI is used, delivers full USB 2.0 speed when acccessing mass storage media
* lwip network stack upgraded to v1.4 rc2 - It's faster
* It can access the DVD-drive via DMA now: faster reading
* It's possible to reload into XeLL now when you are inside a LibXenon Application
* Refactored ELF Launching Code - shouldn't have issues when executed via XeLL-Launch
* New HTTP Webinterface
* Proper hardware init / shutdown (e.g. after XeLL Launch)
* Supports upgrading XeLL with a XeLL-2Stages binary from USB, named "updxell.bin"
* Infinite bootloop when looking for ELFs to execute
* Parses / decrypts keyvault (either with real or virtual CPUkey)
For now, there is still a little work to do on the nandflasher so this feature is disabled and a update will comes in the following weeks.
If you have a Jtag console, you can update XeLL with tuxuser's apps : XeLL Updater or LxNANDFlasher (Use at your own risks). |
http://libxenon.org/index.php?topic=147.0
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 01:12 Post subject: |
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There is no dashboard that matters. It's hardware based and is immune to eFuse nonsense. It will work on all machines and all dashboards -- for now at least.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 01:37 Post subject: |
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This is gonna be awesome!i have a jasper on 13599 so i hope this new hack gives us full control over our consoles....now if only the same can happen for the ps3 without some douchebag scamming or trying to force so called "morals" on us....
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BLaM!
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Now I just need to find someone with skills.. 
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sTo0z
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Aug 2011 03:01 Post subject: |
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Only thing I ever soldered in my life was a chip into my Wii. I wonder if it's time to try something more daring.. 
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According to uf6667 (the guy behind the hardware-based PS3 NAND/NOR flashing) he claims this new 360 method is unpatchable. I still think that should be taken with a grain of salt, since the bullshit about PS3's "epic fail!!! unpatchable!!! only hardware can stop JB now!!!" turned out to be exactly that; bullshit. Sony bitch-slapped the scene with 3.60.
but we can still run any unsigned code we want on 3.55 and below and it seems there is progress about dual FW,and 3.56+ consoles can be still be downgraded...(very complicated thing to do tough)
