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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 01:54    Post subject:
Two have voten on "another..let me explain" but no one have explained crap? Laughing
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Injurious




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 03:37    Post subject:
they voted for nintendo one but the option wasn't available yet Very Happy
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 03:41    Post subject:
Oh I see, well that exaplains it Smile

For a moment there I actually thought they meant the "phantom" or something Very Happy
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Injurious




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 03:48    Post subject:
man phantom will blow Very Happy
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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 03:54    Post subject:
wait, phantom is still in development?
oh god...


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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 04:21    Post subject:
Haha, I voted for another option because I didn't want to vote for any of them, because I won't settle for just one of them.

Aight, that's the last time I'll say I'm gonna' get all three, I promise. Wink


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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 04:24    Post subject:
screw all of this, i ll get phantom Wink


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Cheez-It




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 04:30    Post subject:
by the way... everyone is raving about ps3...

I think the only reason there hasn't been such a hubbub about the xbox is because asides from that madden vid, they've kept it on the down low... I'm sure when footage of xbox games come out, there will be another uproar...


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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 04:50    Post subject:
there are already a couple of vids out, you can get em from gametrailers.com,
gears of war looks very good, but killzone 2 and motor storm easily overshadow it (given it was real time scenes in both games).


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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 04:54    Post subject:
Yeah cheez-it, microsoft have simple not showed the people enough really good looking games. I'm sure they will later but doing it at a presentation is quite important, atleast if you want to have some hype, and which console manufacturer do not want hype? Very Happy
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 05:01    Post subject:
At least we know that the trailers for Xbox360 games are real time, as you can actually see the gameplay mechanic in alot of the vids.


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cybersurfer




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 05:24    Post subject:
From what I've seen so far Sony is the most impressive hands down, Killing Zone looks scary if its in real time, Sony says it is, but heh Hype knows no bounds at E3.

Xbox 360 looks like a flop to me, not enough to get excited about, me being an Xbox owner. Sony might be right in saying Xbox 1.5

Right now Sony is the most impressive at E3 so far, I think making Microsoft look a little silly. Weather its all hype or not Sony is doing a good job in coverting me so far.

And well Nintendo hmmm, I think there marketing to much for Japan, god knows why they think it will work in North America.
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 05:42    Post subject:
The difference in release dates is all the advantage Microsoft needs at the moment.


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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 05:45    Post subject:
Yes but not a single game of those looked really next-gen except gears of war.
They did look good, no questions about that, but not really something that hasn't or cant be done on todays pc's.
And it's also proven with gears of war that the system can handle incredible graphics, so I'm totally amazed that they couldn't show a single game that looked better on a system that is out in 6 damn months! Sad
And perfect dark must have been a joke, talk about a shit first impression of that game :/

Microsoft need to have some secret games to show at the E3, that look badass and run good, otherwise they will loose alot to sony and that would suck. The more systems that succeed the better it is for us so GO microsoft Very Happy

Edit: I dont agree with the release date going for them. If they dont have awesome games to show, why would peple care? I mean they look at some of these games now and think "wth, this isn't that much better than my current xbox, maybe I shuld wait and see what the ps3 offers". I can really see this happen.
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Cheez-It




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 05:57    Post subject:
im confused, i thought someone said killzone was FMV (this dimmed my ps3 excitement)... was it real time? ..


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zerOman29




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 08:53    Post subject:
I have a feeling that the PS3 will cost a lot more then the XBOX360.
That's why I'm gonna stick with the 360.
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m2rock




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 08:54    Post subject:
It was speculations, cheez it. It is best to wait to see in game footage to be sure. The PS3 is 8-12 months from now with a Spring 2006 release.
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Breakneck




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 09:43    Post subject:
No, it wasn't real time, just like the one for Motor Storm... actually most of Sony's video feeds were FMVs.
As usual, Sony's strategy is to impress people, with their upcoming console, in order to hold them back from buying the Xbox360 and wait to buy a PS3, just like they did with the PS2 against Sega's Dreamcast.
Anyway, so far I ain't really impressed with any of those games for Xbox360 or PS3.
E3 is just all about bunch of hype.
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Breakneck




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 09:51    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
Btw, one thing that pisses me off is that microsoft keep on showing these games that have major framerate issues, why?!?!?!?


Did you read this article?
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Benoyd




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 11:33    Post subject:
Ill go with revolution cause i love nintendo games and when i get the chance to play Nes,Snes,N64 and my GC games on the same machine is reason enough for me to grab the Revolution when it airs Smile
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zerOman29




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 11:40    Post subject:
Benoyd wrote:
Ill go with revolution cause i love nintendo games and when i get the chance to play Nes,Snes,N64 and my GC games on the same machine is reason enough for me to grab the Revolution when it airs Smile


Something a xbox cant do ey? Wink
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m2rock




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 11:48    Post subject:
GC games it cant. Anyways, does anyone have any links to trailers of Square on the PS3?
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mcmanic




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 12:04    Post subject:
more info that the Sony presentation was many all movies and no actual gameplay

from Epic -
Epic's Mark Rein dropped by our forums to clear up all the hoohah regarding the Playstation 3 footage from yesterday's unveiling:

In addition to the Sony demos being shown by Phil Harrison, the Epic and EA presentations were the only third party portions actually running on the PS3 in real-time

well there you go.....

although he did point out that "we'll certainly be able to achieve much more on the final box than we were able to show in our demo after working with the early dev kit for only ~2 months "

looking good!
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Diob




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 12:37    Post subject:
who cares!! if u saw that environment techdemo (with dr octavius) i'm absolutely sure the PS3 can handle killzone's graphics!!
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Benoyd




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 13:39    Post subject:
zerOman29 wrote:
Benoyd wrote:
Ill go with revolution cause i love nintendo games and when i get the chance to play Nes,Snes,N64 and my GC games on the same machine is reason enough for me to grab the Revolution when it airs Smile


Something a xbox cant do ey? Wink


suree but emulators aren't 100% at all the time so i rather go with nintendo and i don't wanna miss the new revolution games either Smile
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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 13:50    Post subject:
mcmanic wrote:
more info that the Sony presentation was many all movies and no actual gameplay

from Epic -
Epic's Mark Rein dropped by our forums to clear up all the hoohah regarding the Playstation 3 footage from yesterday's unveiling:

In addition to the Sony demos being shown by Phil Harrison, the Epic and EA presentations were the only third party portions actually running on the PS3 in real-time

well there you go.....

although he did point out that "we'll certainly be able to achieve much more on the final box than we were able to show in our demo after working with the early dev kit for only ~2 months "

looking good!


that still doesnt mean the footage of the other games wasnt real time,
what he said was that only unreal and fight night were shown in real time, as opposed to prerecorded trailers in case of the other games,
its pretty clear that he actually just means this cuz some of the games shown prerecorded had obvious gameplay portions.
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Supino




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 16:04    Post subject:
There are people saying they don't understand why Microsoft are showing off demos with bad framerates. The current XBOX 360 hardware is in alpha stage and is only 30-40 % of final power. Another thing: it will be atleast 2 years before we see the true next. gen games.

Microsoft did a honest demostration on REAL xbox 360 hardware, even if it was in alpha.

PS3 showed just one TRUE realtime demo: Unreal Engine 3. The others where estimated scripts and not realtime!! Sorry.. Link:

http://ve3dboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=19746030

Now, PS3 is all about hype. They don't get my respect for that...

EDIT: I didn't read every comment in here, sorry. You know already Wink but the link refers to the facts.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 16:11    Post subject:
Just read on GameSpot.com that the Xbox360 is rumoured to retail for only $299, and the PlayStation3 for $499. $499 is a fair price for a brand new console, and $299 is downright cheap Smile The games will be more expensive probably, to compensate for the lower console prices, $75 perhaps.....


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Supino




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 16:21    Post subject:
Rofl_Mao: I doubt that xbox games will be more expensive.. Microsoft will earn money on other stuff than games. Xbox Live GOLD. advertising in spectator mode and so on.
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2005 16:23    Post subject:
The ps3 showed 3 realtime games. UT2k7, fight night and heavenly sword. Yes heavenly sword was a recording done in 100% realtime, a developer on the game is actually on the beyond3d forums, so check that out Smile


No company is better than the other. But saying that the ps3 had 1 realtime demo is just pure fanboy garbage and you know it.
I'm so sick of you fanboys of each system. And especially the xbox fanboys so far, who ONLY talk about the renderings and completley forget that the other 3 games that were played beat every other xbox360 game with a margin, except of course, gears of war.

I think I'm going to start a health care that specialise in helping poor fanboys Very Happy


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