EA's Origin (moar liek lolrigin amirite guise)
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2011 03:04    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
EA, pathetic as ever.




now we know.. Cool Face
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2011 03:18    Post subject:
Wow lol, 50 pounds, for a DIGITAL preorder, that you MAY or MAY NOT receive. Ahahahha EA is the new Activision xD
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2011 09:03    Post subject:
this game is going to fall hard (IMO). There will be massive sales numbers for the first month or three and then a steady decline to nothingness. Same thing that happened to the Star Trek game.
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jul 2011 21:48    Post subject:
http://www.destructoid.com/serious-sam-publisher-mocks-origin-allies-with-steam-207388.phtml

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“But the reality is Steam is an amazing digital platform. That’s where we want to distribute our top-tier titles like Serious Sam 3: BFE to generate the kind of revenue it takes to buy things like velvet-covered jet skis. Holy crap, did I just invent those?”


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“I guess consumers could also sign-up for EA’s Origin service if they are into 10-year-old train simulators,” claimed Fork. “But you can be sure those sons of bitches will never deliver in-game nachos.”


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
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Imoen




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jul 2011 22:32    Post subject:
Why would anyone pre order a DIGITAL version of the game? Its not like they are going to run out of DIGITAL copies haha. Its SO dumb.
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jul 2011 22:33    Post subject:
Imoen wrote:
Why would anyone pre order a DIGITAL version of the game? Its not like they are going to run out of DIGITAL copies haha. Its SO dumb.

Either some trace of sarcasm or you didn't hear about Bioware's MMO running out Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jul 2011 22:34    Post subject:
Imoen wrote:
Why would anyone pre order a DIGITAL version of the game? Its not like they are going to run out of DIGITAL copies haha. Its SO dumb.


lol wut

One mainly pre-orders a game for the price cut a digital store offers and/or for different bonus contents.


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Imoen




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jul 2011 22:36    Post subject:
Haha really they did? Anyway that should not be an issue. Pre ordering at a story to get a physical copy I can understand. But digital? No, not a single good reason imo.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jul 2011 01:42    Post subject:
I still have hope that EA will release games on Steam again. I really want SW:TOR and BF3 but i refuse to preorder it on their gay Origin. I want all my games at one place (Steam) Surprised


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Pixieking




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jul 2011 10:26    Post subject:
Thy're still releasing games on Steam - Sims 3 Town Life Stuff was just released yesterday. God damn, I'm so tempted to go around a couple of websites and offer to write an article about this; it's shocking that no gaming magazine or site has truly dug around this.

Anyways, there's a good chance (I think) that BF3 will come to Steam, though TOR almost certainly won't be. EA will try and make Origin their own battle.net with TOR.


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jul 2011 10:29    Post subject:
there is like insane origin sale for US.. nothing for eu.. just obnoxious price tags :X
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jul 2011 11:13    Post subject:
Pixieking wrote:
Thy're still releasing games on Steam - Sims 3 Town Life Stuff was just released yesterday.

Not really a new release, it's DLC for an existing release.

Pixieking wrote:
Anyways, there's a good chance (I think) that BF2 will come to Steam

BF2 as been on steam since 2009 Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jul 2011 11:17    Post subject:


I was classing Town Life Stuff as an expansion, but I suppose it's all how you define thing. Looking at the wiki, it probably does bear more in common with a DLC package than a true expansion. Though my point still stands - EA are still releasing things on Steam. Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Aug 2011 23:39    Post subject:
God Damn... Won a key for Hot Pursuit. Activated on Origin. Installed. Go to launch. "There's an update available for NFS: Hot Pursuit". Spend another 5 minutes downloading the patch. Why couldn't Origin download and install the latest version? Seriously. Grrrr.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Aug 2011 23:41    Post subject:
Pixieking wrote:
God Damn... Won a key for Hot Pursuit. Activated on Origin. Installed. Go to launch. "There's an update available for NFS: Hot Pursuit". Spend another 5 minutes downloading the patch. Why couldn't Origin download and install the latest version? Seriously. Grrrr.


http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40001&start=26024


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Aug 2011 23:44    Post subject:
A glorious exposition, comrade.
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Aug 2011 18:14    Post subject:
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AssA




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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Aug 2011 18:16    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Just like with Steam, it seems VPN purchases work (just did one then) bringing the price of BF3 from $79 down to $59 - for those in countries getting anally price raped and want to buy direct from the store


and the locale seems to stick as well... even though their support says otherwise... Smile


|IcedFreon| wrote:
lol you're done wih the game? already ??????? jesus. ppl havent even finished downloading it yet

source
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Aug 2011 18:30    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Just like with Steam, it seems VPN purchases work (just did one then) bringing the price of BF3 from $79 down to $59 - for those in countries getting anally price raped and want to buy direct from the store


or sing up for free ign prime trial ( you will need cc for it, but i doubt thats problem)

and get -15% of any d2d titles , then another 10% for d2d preorders, which leave you with game costing 30 pounds, which is less than 59$, and totally legit



ORDER INFORMATION

Battlefield 3 Limited Edition £29.71
Tax £0.00
Total £29.71
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Aug 2011 18:35    Post subject:
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Smikis.




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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Aug 2011 18:47    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
But is that for Europe / England etc only?

D2D has some of the strictest security on purchases I've come across, I've never been able to get around it


no its for everyone, you dont have to purchase on uk d2d , d2d belongs( well not anymore? ) to ign, how it works that you use same signup for both websites, since its same ign network, and you get -15% discount , and there is global -10% for preorders on d2d, and you get both of them


http://login.ign.com/prime/landing

prime is paid service, but still probably worth for -15% alone, and you can get trial, my trial expired and i can select trial again, didnt actually try if it will activate again tho Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Aug 2011 03:15    Post subject:
Gabe sort of says he has no idea why EA removes the games, which also implies it's not Valve that removes them. http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/08/18/gabe-newell-on-disappearing-ea-steam-games-and-origin-yeah-ive-tried-it/

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Owen caught up with Valve CEO Gabe Newell at Gamescom for a chat about Origin, and asked him about the recent withdrawal of a number of EA games from Steam,

Origin is a revamped version of the EA store that can be run from a downloadable client. It’s the only place players will be able to buy the digital version of Star Wars: The Old Republic, and it was recently confirmed that retail copies of Battlefield 3 will require Origin to be installed in order to run. It seems to be positioning itself as a direct competitor to Valve’s Steam service, but what does Gabe Newell think of it?

“I got an account before I came here and was trying it out,” he says. “So yeah, I’ve tried it.”

“It does some things well, I think there’s still some areas where as a customer I’d like to see it improve, it’s not that different from any other system like this. There are positive things and negative things
,” he says.

Over the last few months EA games have been disappearing from Steam. Crysis 2 and Dragon Age 2 have vanished, and EA have said that Battlefield 3e will also avoid Valve’s service. EA have blamed Steam’s “restrictive terms of service” for all of these disappearances. We asked Gabe Newell if he could shed any light on what those could be.

“I don’t really know what they’re referring to by that,” he replied. “In general with Steam and Steam partners its incumbent on us to create value for those partners, whether it’s EA or Ubisoft or Take Two or any of the other developers who are using it, so that’s our goal, to create enough value so that is makes sense for partners to use the technology, the tools, services and community that we’ve created.

“We’re going to keep trying to do that with EA and trying to convince them that it’s worth it to have their games on Steam.”


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Aug 2011 05:35    Post subject:
EA says: http://gamescom.gamespot.com/story/6329903/battlefield-3-is-about-taking-market-share-moore/

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GameSpot: Is there any update on the negotiations with Valve to get games like Battlefield 3 on Steam?

Peter Moore: It's pretty simple, and I think we've said it pretty consistently over the last few weeks. If we're allowed to deal with our consumers directly, being able to transact directly with our consumers, fix issues directly with consumers, then we'll be happy to sit down with our good friends at Valve and resolve some of those differences. But if their terms and conditions and policies don't change, then we'll focus on the other hundred download retailers we see in the marketplace and our own platform of course, Origin. It's important for us to have a direct conversation with our consumers, particularly on the PC platform, which is an open platform and should be kept that way.


Ouch. I like how he makes it read like he's talking about releasing patches and updates and Steam is an obstacle to that, instead of saying they want to get 100% of the revenue of the DLCs, which of course isn't something inherently evil, which begs the question why spread confusion then?


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Aug 2011 05:54    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
which of course isn't something inherently evil, which begs the question why spread confusion then?


it's not spreading confusion. it's decent pr work. make people listen to what they want to hear and not what is said. By their conditions and policies it makes valve look like the bad guy but what they're saying is they want moar monies. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Aug 2011 10:08    Post subject:
So "unexpected"...

http://www.bluesnews.com/s/124831/on-origin-data-mining


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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Aug 2011 11:02    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
So "unexpected"...

http://www.bluesnews.com/s/124831/on-origin-data-mining


The Fuck! Man!

"IF YOU DO NOT WANT EA TO COLLECT, USE, STORE, TRANSMIT OR DISPLAY THE DATA DESCRIBED IN THIS SECTION, PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THE APPLICATION."

So, TOR requires Origin, and if you don't want personal data mined, you can't play it. Why is EA so goddamn backwards! Enforced data mining is so late 90s.

Edit: Also, it greatly amuses me that Origin explicitly does something that all the people who hate Steam think Steam does on the quiet - namely, this. Heh.


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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Aug 2011 12:41    Post subject:
Pixieking wrote:
Why is EA so goddamn backwards!


Pffchh

Suprised?!


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Aug 2011 03:25    Post subject:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/08/26/origin-eula-gets-a-makeover/

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“EA knows that you care how information about you is collected, used and shared, and we appreciate your trust that we will do so carefully and sensibly. Information about our customers is an important part of our business, and EA would never sell your personally identifiable information to anyone, nor would it ever use spyware or install spyware on users’ machines.”


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It does seem like the rest of EULA means you are still basically agreeing to the same thing, however.

Laughing


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Sep 2011 01:35    Post subject:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/37136/EAs_Origin_Hosting_ThirdParty_Content_Very_Soon_4M_Client_Installs.php

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"We're fairly excited about Origin," Brown added. "We have about 4 million installs of the client, we expect that number to climb substantially as we enter this ... holiday season." EA's PC games now by default install Origin to users' PCs, even if the game is purchased at physical retail.

EA CEO John Riccitiello hinted at third-party content on Origin back in July. "We've had a lot of inbound inquiry [from third parties] about getting on [Origin]," he said at the time. "I think forward-looking publishers really want their content on any and every platform possible. One more sale is better than not."


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Sep 2011 01:58    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/08/26/origin-eula-gets-a-makeover/

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“EA knows that you care how information about you is collected, used and shared, and we appreciate your trust that we will do so carefully and sensibly. Information about our customers is an important part of our business, and EA would never sell your personally identifiable information to anyone, nor would it ever use spyware or install spyware on users’ machines.”


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It does seem like the rest of EULA means you are still basically agreeing to the same thing, however.

Laughing

it is very important to note that not selling, is not the same as not sharing, they will share the info with "partners" in exchange for better deals (like marketing campaigns).

this is not speculation, they declare this as an income source to shareholders

and they still keep track of what programs run in your and websites you visit, i dont care if they dont call it spyware, its just not acceptable.....

i wont buy any games from them as long as they do this. unfortunately i doubt they will change, there are too many derps that dont care about this.
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