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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 18:35    Post subject:
the animations and physics of condemned are great but it doesnt seem to run at 60 fps and thats pretty cheap, i mean its the nextgen after all and there are already games that dont hit the 60 fps mark.


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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 18:37    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
I agree. I dont think we will see such a huge step ever again. Todays games are already great looking, so it's hard to wow us.

Edit: GP force, huh? The ps2 were first mate (the DC was first but since it was quite limited when it comes to games, I choose not to count it) after the ps1, so that would be the ps2. The xbox werent that much ahead of the ps2 you know, and far from giving us a new "wow" factor after the ps1-->ps2 step Smile

So the cycle is: ps1-->ps2-->xbox360 (since it's coming before the other two).


Well lets put it this way, if all I had ever played were PS2 games, and then the Xbox360 came out, then I would be wowed. But because of the fanatastic graphics of some of the better PC games the Xbox360 doesn't seem that special.

Solely from a console perspective the Xbox360 is pretty amazing.

I'm looking forward to what sony can pull out their ass now though. I feel like that company really knows what it's doing, I mean they've squeezed every last ounce out of the PS2, especially compared to microsoft. I've always thought of the PS2 as the underdog, with regards to graphics power in the console world, so it'll be nice to see if the playstation can come out on top.


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m2rock




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 18:45    Post subject:
I think the PS3 will have better hardware this time around, waiting out the Xbox 2 release and if the Cell is so mighty then great. I am getting both consoles for sure Smile. Hopefully sony will do what they did with the ps2. Release linux for it Smile
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Weedo




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 20:02    Post subject:
Wow this MTV show was the crappiest thing I've ever seen!! It had nothing to do with Xbox360 at all. It was only stupid music from artists I don't even know. I can't believe it! Mad
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 20:03    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
I agree. I dont think we will see such a huge step ever again. Todays games are already great looking, so it's hard to wow us.

Edit: GP force, huh? The ps2 were first mate (the DC was first but since it was quite limited when it comes to games, I choose not to count it) after the ps1, so that would be the ps2. The xbox werent that much ahead of the ps2 you know, and far from giving us a new "wow" factor after the ps1-->ps2 step Smile

So the cycle is: ps1-->ps2-->xbox360 (since it's coming before the other two).


lol

Yeah I guess your right.. But I do see a difference between ps2 and xbox... not talking about port's, but most games on xbox looks a LOt better Smile

As animalm said the games will look better after a while..

Just compare any game from xbox with xbox360, you'll see a difference..

Key is motion, how will it look in motion...
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 21:34    Post subject:
Weedo wrote:
Wow this MTV show was the crappiest thing I've ever seen!! It had nothing to do with Xbox360 at all. It was only stupid music from artists I don't even know. I can't believe it! Mad


Yep i totally agree that what absolute crap which had nothing whtasoever with the xbox 360 atall, well not if you don't count the 5 second view of it. I think it was an absolutely ridiculous unveiling, at least the guys at sony have the intelligence to show it to gamers/press first and not put a frickin' music channel in charge of unveiling a games console Evil or Very Mad


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skidrow
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 21:38    Post subject:
check the movies here:

http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11148

no mtv crap shit bull


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dvsone




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 23:03    Post subject:
all ive got to say is the raw power of this machine is great. the first games to come out wont even come close to pushing this monster machine because everything written atm isnt even being written on final versions of the dev kits theyve been written on alpha and beta versions.

But i think microsoft is totally going in the right irection and making this machine everything you could need for home entertainment in one box

1 trillion floating point operations per second 1st gen games that were built on alpha dev kits (only 2 cpu cores and a standard ati card set nothing like the 48 piped monster we'll be getting) is a safe bet that the games that come out in the futur will be jaw dropping. Hell its more powerful in terms of pure rawness than a pc is likley to get for a while especially at the price the xbox360 will go for
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 23:36    Post subject:
wow i didnt think the show was going to be THAT bad.

just 2 crappy bands ffs.

MTV get off the air!!!
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th May 2005 00:15    Post subject:
Gears of War is running at an estimated 80% (that's quite alot for such an early game) of the visual capabilitilies of the new xbox, so if you consider that this game will be quite an early game after the launch, I'm not too sure that games will look much better than gears of war (epic is also a very skilled dev studio). Although, that game looks absolutley incredible so it doesn't mather that much, but the machine is supposed to live for quite a few years, and if the graphical steps will be minimal it can hurt the machine in the end Sad. I mean, no one expect that a first year title will look like a last year title, it has never happened before, not even close. People like to see things envolv and it's also a way to keep them hooked.


I personally like it when games envolv year after year, and I'm not even a graphic whore Smile
So in my opinion, it's better to release games like gears of war later and not right at the start, but this is just my own opinion, I'm sure many have another opinion Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 14th May 2005 00:15    Post subject:
Ok it's confirmed that whore amy was from previous clips....Why do we care listning to her, about men being lawyers and shit Rolling Eyes

Really annyoing, "Uber gamer"...

Check out her "site"...
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th May 2005 12:34    Post subject:
Yeah gears of war looks fantastic, I don't care how much of the Xbox 360's power it uses as long as it runs smooth.


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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Sat, 14th May 2005 15:44    Post subject:
yea as long as it runs at 60 fps its cool, but sadly i saw many xbox 360 game scenes that ran only 30 or less, and thats a very bad sign considering the console isnt even released yet.


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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th May 2005 17:54    Post subject:
I don't care about 60fps either, just that it's smooth with no lagging.


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icebergisonfire




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th May 2005 07:08    Post subject:
that 80% stuff is PR fluff. I've heard Acclaim use similar numbers. Look at them, they don't even make games anymore
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th May 2005 12:03    Post subject:
It's most likley real numbers. I mean, look at the screens, they are fricking insane.
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th May 2005 12:06    Post subject:
Gametrailers.com is an awesome site! A big thanks to whoever posted that link. I spent most of the day downloading videos from that website and I have to say Full Auto is the best next gen game I have ever seen ... so far. Ghost Recon3 looks mighty impressive too and Infected on the PSP looks like hella good fun!

There is also another Xbox 360 video available.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=5809&type=wmv

Thats J Allard guy at the start reminds me sooo much of Lex Luthor from Smallville, I just had to mention it lol
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