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 Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 07:32 Post subject: Ubisoft: our DRM “is a success” |
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| Quote: | We recently reported on how Driver: San Francisco will require a constant internet connection to play. It’s a controversial measure put in place to defend against piracy, and we don’t like it. We don’t like pirates either, mind.
Ubisoft see the DRM as a success. Speaking to us earlier today, a Ubisoft representative admitted that the developer has seen “a clear reduction in piracy of our titles which required a persistent online connection, and from that point of view the requirement is a success”.
Ubisoft have traditionally been the developer with some of the harshest DRM in the industry. In the games that use their always online “connected services”, players can no longer to play if no internet connection is detected. The publisher first implemented this always-online DRM with Settlers 7. Since then, it’s featured in Silent Hunter V and Assassin’s Creed 2 and Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood.
Sadly, legitimate players often take the brunt of such security measures. Intermittent internet connections and server issues at Ubisoft’s end can stop PC Gamers from playing the game entirely. Not cool.
Similarly frustrating measures were also introduced in the recent Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition, where offline players were restricted to playing a small selection of the characters. Capcom later withdrew the DRM after fan criticism. |
source: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/07/28/ubisoft-our-drm-is-a-success/
(if this was already posted i could not find it)
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helvete
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 07:35 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 07:35 Post subject: |
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well..if you will release nice demo for your games, (and not 2 min's demo) , maybe people will be able to see what you have to ofer and will buy it if it is good.
fuck DRM...we all fucked:(
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 08:12 Post subject: |
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| pikachupi wrote: |
fuck DRM...we all fucked:( |
We are? Seems like DRM has been cracked multiple times already.
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 11:26 Post subject: |
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Finished AC:B, SH5 I've played a lot but a bug prevented me from moving forward (couldn't find the second carrier I need to sink, because there is none, after years of searching). So yeah.
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 11:32 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 11:40 Post subject: |
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No matter how much I like a Ubi game with this DRM I would never buy it.
Pirated version = yours to play. Can't say that about the one you actually buy which should be yours to play.
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 12:44 Post subject: |
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Didn't Ubi remove the "Always on" requirement for AC2 & AC:B ?
"Sometimes when you do things right, people are not sure you've done anything at all." -- God (Futurama)
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 12:45 Post subject: |
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You mean through a patch? No, as far as I'm aware ...
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 12:57 Post subject: |
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| human_steel wrote: | | You mean through a patch? No, as far as I'm aware ... |
I haven't tested it myself by unplugging my internet connection. I once got a message about being offline while playing AC:B but it was only there for a minute or two, but I was not prevented from playing and the next time I loaded up my save game, I noticed that my In-game progress was intact.
That's why I though that Ubi patched out the "Always on" requirement.
Ps. My memory might be less than good, but I think it was announced sometime early this year that Ubi had patched out the requirement for these games.
Pps. Found this about AC:B
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/02/23/assassins-creed-brotherhood-drops-always-online-drm/[/b]
"Sometimes when you do things right, people are not sure you've done anything at all." -- God (Futurama)
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prudislav
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 13:01 Post subject: |
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| maul_inc wrote: | | Didn't Ubi remove the "Always on" requirement for AC2 & AC:B ? |
ACB have only single activation (Solidshield) and AC 2 and SCC was patched to login during starting game after that it woks without connection
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 13:46 Post subject: |
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| beyond1 wrote: | | pikachupi wrote: |
fuck DRM...we all fucked:( |
We are? Seems like DRM has been cracked multiple times already. |
well...hawx 2 never been cracked as far as i know and the games that been cracked, were big pain in the ass to crack so crackers don't run very fast into the chalenge, so...yea we kinda fcuked  |
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 14:04 Post subject: |
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Doubt it'll ever become popular. Maybe in the far future when we have free and stable internet connections everywhere, but not yet.
And while they might have seen a decrease in piracy, that alone is not the goal. The goal is to get those very pirates to buy the game. And frankly I doubt the numbers of pirates they might have gotten to buy the game by making it more difficult to crack will make up for the sheer numbers of sales they lost by implementing the DRM in the first place. Not to mention the bad reputation and expenses with customer service regarding the new DRM system.
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 14:09 Post subject: |
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I agree. They talk about non pirated games but not about sales figures which is a total fail on their part. Those numbers are the thing that drive a company forward but since it's Ubisoft we're talking about I'm not surprised.
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swebarb
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 15:20 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 20:44 Post subject: |
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They'll go the same route as the spellforce guys eventually, Jowood..
They stood and swore by starforce, last time me and any I know of bought their games.
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 21:05 Post subject: |
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You do remember that Ubisoft originally used StarForce in all their games, right?
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 21:18 Post subject: |
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So, any bets on the DRM on AC:R?
Will it be:
- Q1 2012 release, PC version ships with Solidshied online one time activation. ( )
- Simultaneous release along with the derpsole version, PC version ships with the always on DRM. ( )
- Q1 2012 release, PC version ships with the always on DRM(aka the fuck-you-PC-gamers-ubishit-special). ( )
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 21:24 Post subject: |
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oh is internet connection required in console versions of their games?
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 21:28 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2011 21:35 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | So, any bets on the DRM on AC:R?
Will it be:
- Q1 2012 release, PC version ships with Solidshied online one time activation. ()
- Simultaneous release along with the derpsole version, PC version ships with the always on DRM. ( )
- Q1 2012 release, PC version ships with the always on DRM(aka the fuck-you-PC-gamers-ubishit-special). ( ) |
PC version canceled citing technical reasons to support higher resolutions.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Aug 2011 02:59 Post subject: Re: Ubisoft: our DRM “is a success” |
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| Ubisoft wrote: | | Our DRM is a success |
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Aug 2011 03:04 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | | Quote: | | Ubisoft representative admitted that the developer has seen “a clear reduction in piracy of our titles which required a persistent online connection, and from that point of view the requirement is a success”. |
How the fuck can you see a clear reduction in piracy?  Do they rent out these crytal balls?? |
normal consumer sees two things : buy anal drm OR buy console version without drm ... Ubisoft our DRM was a success sheepeople bought more console versions
haven't they said something in the lines, they lose money on games when they showed they had 1bln EURO revenue BUT 0 EURO PROFIT LULZ ...
no money management skillz ... check
sabotaging they own PC sells ... check
loosing per month about 50mln euro for DRM servers ... check
alienating they own creators so much they escape from them to THQ or EA ,that created theirs main AAA Ips that are the firmaments of Ubisoft capital ... triple check [Clint Hocking creator of Splinter Cell , Patrice Désilets creator of Assassin Creed etc...]
creating they tools to fight used games sales by cutting half of the game and forcing you to log in tough U-play ... check
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Aug 2011 03:38 Post subject: |
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At least at Ubisoft they are able to write comprehensible passages 
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Aug 2011 03:58 Post subject: Re: Ubisoft: our DRM “is a success” |
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| Master wrote: | | Quote: | We recently reported on how Driver: San Francisco will require a constant internet connection to play. It’s a controversial measure put in place to defend against piracy, and we don’t like it. We don’t like pirates either, mind.
Ubisoft see the DRM as a success. Speaking to us earlier today, a Ubisoft representative admitted that the developer has seen “a clear reduction in piracy of our titles which required a persistent online connection, and from that point of view the requirement is a success”.
Ubisoft have traditionally been the developer with some of the harshest DRM in the industry. In the games that use their always online “connected services”, players can no longer to play if no internet connection is detected. The publisher first implemented this always-online DRM with Settlers 7. Since then, it’s featured in Silent Hunter V and Assassin’s Creed 2 and Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood.
Sadly, legitimate players often take the brunt of such security measures. Intermittent internet connections and server issues at Ubisoft’s end can stop PC Gamers from playing the game entirely. Not cool.
Similarly frustrating measures were also introduced in the recent Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition, where offline players were restricted to playing a small selection of the characters. Capcom later withdrew the DRM after fan criticism. |
source: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/07/28/ubisoft-our-drm-is-a-success/
(if this was already posted i could not find it) |
I guess they say that because of the game H.A.W.X. 2 , no one cracked that one .
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Aug 2011 08:27 Post subject: Re: Ubisoft: our DRM “is a success” |
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| Twinny wrote: | | Master wrote: | | Quote: | We recently reported on how Driver: San Francisco will require a constant internet connection to play. It’s a controversial measure put in place to defend against piracy, and we don’t like it. We don’t like pirates either, mind.
Ubisoft see the DRM as a success. Speaking to us earlier today, a Ubisoft representative admitted that the developer has seen “a clear reduction in piracy of our titles which required a persistent online connection, and from that point of view the requirement is a success”.
Ubisoft have traditionally been the developer with some of the harshest DRM in the industry. In the games that use their always online “connected services”, players can no longer to play if no internet connection is detected. The publisher first implemented this always-online DRM with Settlers 7. Since then, it’s featured in Silent Hunter V and Assassin’s Creed 2 and Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood.
Sadly, legitimate players often take the brunt of such security measures. Intermittent internet connections and server issues at Ubisoft’s end can stop PC Gamers from playing the game entirely. Not cool.
Similarly frustrating measures were also introduced in the recent Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition, where offline players were restricted to playing a small selection of the characters. Capcom later withdrew the DRM after fan criticism. |
source: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/07/28/ubisoft-our-drm-is-a-success/
(if this was already posted i could not find it) |
I guess they say that because of the game H.A.W.X. 2 , no one cracked that one . |
same as Shaun White Skateboarding but i dont think that these games was any good. According to my test on OnLive are both not as good as I expected.
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Aug 2011 09:33 Post subject: |
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Typical publisher way of thinking:
WHAT TO DO IN CASE OF POOR SALES:
step 1: is the game on PC?
- Yes: go to step 2
- No: blame developer
step 2: does the game have DRM?
- Yes: blame developer
- No: blame piracy & add DRM
In other words: it's NEVER the fault of the moronic CEOs that force their retarded ideas on the developers, forcing them to add or remove stuff because they have a "hunch" it would make for a better game (read: make it easier/more appealing for the derp derp DEEEEEERP people).
I find it hard to pay for games anymore because I know that almost every game on the market, has signs of publisher meddling that harms the quality and I don't want to support that. I didn't pirate a single Ubisoft game so of course piracy went down - a lot of people couldn't be bothered with it. Does this mean they bought it? Fuck no. Heck, a lot of legit gamers didn't buy it either. And what did Ubisoft do? Go "yeah this DRM wasn't the best idea?" no! They went "bad developer! Making bad games!" *facepalms*
Seriously, that Norway killer should have done his fun in the boardrooms for publishers. People that dumb shouldn't waste so much oxygen.[/list]
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