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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 21:43    Post subject: Which game, in your opinion is the most...
Here's a quick series of questions. Pick one game per subject, and please explain why you think so:

Which game is, in your opinion the most...
1. ...realistic combat simulator?


2. ...entertaining first person shooter?


3. ...atmospheric?


4. ...innovative compared to other games?


5. ...player demanding (in terms of persona skills)?


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 21:52    Post subject:
Haven't really played much simulators

1. Operation Flashpoint perhaps.

2. Half life series without a single doubt.

3. I'm gonna say Bioshock as i never remember the best ones when i need to Razz

4. It's sad that i can't name a single super innovative game at the top of my head :/

5. Super meat boy omg.
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 21:56    Post subject:
1. Operation Flashpoint (ory Arma 2), in terms of realism nothing comes closer. Large terrains, support for many players, lots of vehicles, real ballistics, and real damage.

2. The most fun I've ever had in a first person shooter is probably with the MMO, Planetside. The scale of Planetside was amazing, and the large scale fights have yet to be matched. It was an amazing game until SOE decided to listen to all the twelve-year olds and brought in massive mechs and really boring maps (Aftermath).

3. Thief: The Dark project ... I've never been this drawn into a game, ever. Thief set a standard for games in terms of atmosphere with music, dialogue, story and cutscenes.

4. The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall ... when this game came I was completely awestruck, you could truly play as ANYTHING, it really was open-ended and it gave you an idea of what RPG- games might be.

5. EVE-Online ... no other game requires both personal skills, strategic grasp, and tactical ability. Nothing comes close to it, which leads to a lot of people blaming the game for their own lack of ability (classic projection)


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 22:00    Post subject:
It's a real shame i was a console fag in my youth. Seriously missed a lot of gems.
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 22:37    Post subject:
1. Arma 2, would like to try realism mod for BF2 as well though.

2. For multiplayer - Return to Castle Wolfenstein. For single probably Half Life.

3. Silent Hill. Brrr.

4. Battlefield 1942. First real sandbox game worth mentioning.

5. Ghouls n Ghosts was pretty danm tough I remember correctly.
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 22:40    Post subject:
1. Probably OFP/Arma/Arma2.

2. I'm thinking the Stalker games. Played a lot of decent fps games, but the mix of open gameplay, inventory, interesting locations, artifacts, 'quests', superb atmosphere, etc., just puts it above any of the corridor/railroaded fps games, both new and old.

3. Don't think I can name just one game here. Thief's definitely a good candidate, but so are several others; Stalker, Dune, Alien Legacy, HoM&M, etc., etc.

4. Having trouble with this one too. Not sure I'd agree on Daggerfall; it certainly had tons of (unfinished) features, but most of them had already been done. If they'd actually completed it according to the design documents, then yes, but in its current state I'm less sure. Maybe Homeworld? Or Star Control? Elite? Dune 2?

5. Impossible to say, really.
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 22:42    Post subject:
1. Arma 2, OFP would be a close second.

2. Half life 1 and Opposing Force

3. S.T.A.L.K.E.R SOC

4. Fallout, it advanced writing in RPGs imo.

5. Baldur's Gate 2: TOB, some difficult fights in that.
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 22:43    Post subject:
grapper wrote:

4. Battlefield 1942. First real sandbox game worth mentioning.

But then, Codename Eagle, the predecessor, already did all that.
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 22:55    Post subject:
Raap wrote:
grapper wrote:

4. Battlefield 1942. First real sandbox game worth mentioning.

But then, Codename Eagle, the predecessor, already did all that.

I said worth mentioning. Cool Face
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 22:57    Post subject:
1. Never really played a lot of combat simulators, so can't say.

2. DOOM. Later shooters, in spite of better graphics and fancy physics systems just weren't as much fun.

3. Baldur's Gate II. No game has put me that much inside a world before or since, though there are some close runner-ups.

4. Hard to say, innovation can mean a lot of things. I'll go with Sid Meier's Civilization.

5. In more modern gaming (disqualifying several oldschool or arcade games that were in many ways not designed to be completed by a majority of the players), Ninja Gaiden on the xbox. Very high difficulty level, but never unfairly so. There was always something your character could do to handle a situation if you played him skillfully enough.
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 22:58    Post subject:
1. Dunno Very Happy

2. Half - Life

3. Deus Ex

4. Portal

5. Super Meat Boy


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 23:17    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 23:22    Post subject:
1. I'd say Arma 2 although I never played it.

2. Soldier of Fortune -> major gibbage

3. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games (with mods)

4. Dunno

5. Every RARE game on the N64
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 23:22    Post subject:
1. Arma 2;

2. Half Life 1 as "classic" FPS and Deus Ex as hybrid FPS-RPG;

3. STALKER Series;

4. System Shock and Baldur's Gate (co-winners);

5. Commandos Series;
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 23:26    Post subject:
1. Modern Wa... Arma2 proboably

2. Timeshift/Half Life2/Fear

3. The Darkness is the most. These are fallow ups/Half-Life2/Call of Cthulhu/Doom3

4. dunno... Bioshock?

5. maybe Stalker or Metro 2033 ? And offcourse Super MeatBoy


This list doesnt have any sense anyway. There is too much games
Enslaved, Alan Wake, LA noire, Crackdown(for fun), Gtaiv, Riddick, Assassins Creed, Mass effects... And I still dont even know where to begin there is so much more great games that I sin not to mention here Crying or Very sad

But If I was asked for my favourite game it would be a tie Between Darkness, Gears of War1 and Half Life2 with each being best for something else


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 23:30    Post subject:
1: MW2! you shoots da bullets and da peeplz fall down. seems pretty realistic to me. also that sense of GOD-HOOD and IMMORTALITY that you feel when holding a weapon and taking the lives of foreigners... could be a real-world us-army recruiting video.

nah seriously i dont play games for realism so fucked if i know... maybe jfk reloaded?

2: quake - especially team fortress... back in the time before games needed iron-sight aiming by LAW or some shit, and health-regen was a cold, hard, inescapable FACT of gaming, quake was some of the most fun i ever had fps gaming, and the original tf? fuck yeah.

3: witcher. just oozed atmosphere, i loved it.. though it only JUST wins. i found the atmosphere in fallout 3 - purely because of the level design, the fact its first-person, and just the scope of the game... i mean roaming the wasteland far and away was the best reason to play the game - not the story... yeah fallout 3 i just loved for its atmosphere.

4: innowhat? so we're talking like the 1990s here, right? i spose i could say gears of war, because spending the bulk of an ACTION game fucking HIDING must have been pretty innovative for its time?

5: fuck.. any mmorpg i guess... some battles ive seen between high level players, and from my own experience of getting my ass kicked, having to juggle skills, buffs, know how to use what and when, balancing defense and offense.. that takes a lot of practice - more than i was ever willing to dedicate.




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 23:30    Post subject:
1. I haven't really played one. I just tried the original Flashpoint. Haven't touched any ArmA games though I would like to.

2. Half-life (the first one).

3. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series.

4. I would say Prey, I really loved that puzzle/portal and physics-bending style which I haven't found in toher games I've played.

5. This would most probably be a RTS game, mostly because I suck at RTS, but I haven't played many of them. But I remember having a hard time beating the first Nija Gaiden (NES). I finished 2 and 3 but I think I never beat 1.
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 23:33    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
1. I haven't really played one. I just tried the original Flashpoint. Haven't touched any ArmA games though I would like to.

2. Half-life (the first one).

3. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series.

4. I would say Prey, I really loved that puzzle/portal and physics-bending style which I haven't found in toher games I've played.

5. This would most probably be a RTS game, mostly because I suck at RTS, but I haven't played many of them. But I remember having a hard time beating the first Nija Gaiden (NES). I finished 2 and 3 but I think I never beat 1.


I totally forgot about prey. btw.. Max Payne was damn innovative. Aafter this- every game have bullet time


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 23:34    Post subject: Re: Which game, in your opinion is the most...
1. Arma 2
2. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat
3. Gothic 2
4. Realms of Arkania
5. Dwarf Fortress
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 23:47    Post subject:
1. Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2
2. Call of Duty Black Ops
3. Call of Duty Black Ops
4. Call of Duty Modern Warfare
5. Call of Duty World at War
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 23:48    Post subject:
natans trolling, clearly. black ops was way more innovative than mw.... remember how you could shoot that gun? yeah..


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 23:49    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
3. Call of Duty Black Ops


Disagreed.. MW2 was more atmospheric. Smug

edit argh beaten, same kind of joke by chiv


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 23:50    Post subject:
Modern Warfare redefined modern warfare shooters. What was there before? Operation Flashpoint and "realistic" crap like that? Pfft. MW showed that it was possible to make amazing realistic shooters. Black Ops is amazing but it is not as amazing as the first Call of Duty.
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 23:53    Post subject:
FU iNatan that's BS.
BO was definitely the most innovative.

Dragon's Breath shotgun?
Sploding RC car?
Uber Splosive Crossbow?

Come on! Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 23:54    Post subject:
bit surprised no one's mentioned dragon age 2 for innovation. i mean YOU CAN FUCK EVERYONE NOW!!

also, it was the FIRST game that was designed around AWESOME...




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 23:54    Post subject:
1: Operation Flashpoint
2: Postal 2
3: Morrowind
4: Minecraft
5: As has been mentioned before, this one can rely a lot on an individuals own skills. From my own experiences i would probably say E.V.E Online.
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2011 23:57    Post subject:
1. Operation Flashpoint
2. NOLF
3. Deus Ex, Grim Fandango, System Shock 2
4. Not sure about this question, probably Portal.
5. Skill in a game hmm, I would probably say good sports games, like 2k11 after one year I am still learning skills, moves and different ways to score and I've been learning from 2k9 so yeah, rookies are gonna be in big trouble.
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Jun 2011 00:01    Post subject: Re: Which game, in your opinion is the most...
1. Homefront, definitely
2. Homefront, definitely
3. Mass Effect 2
4. Dragon Age 2
5. Mafia 2
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Jun 2011 00:04    Post subject:
iNatan & Werelds in The Dynamic Duo of Trolling (TDDoT)
good job the moderators around here aren't as harsh with trolls as they used to be, or half the forum would've been gone Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Jun 2011 00:09    Post subject:
So I state my opinion and I get called a troll... Then you wonder why there are no new members here, or why the few new ones leave after a short while. Rolling Eyes That Werelds dude is obviously trolling though, because Homefront is SHIT that tried to copy Call of Duty, the most amazing series of shooters.
And Dragon Age 2 is AWESOME! None of that inventory management or having to pause the game to issue commands. What the fuck was that about anyway? What are we, in the 90s with text RPGs? Rolling Eyes They put that stop and give commands shit to Mass Effect 2 to shut up the pretentious derps. And only like 0.00001% actually used that crap pfft.
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