So the state of Illinois that I live in currently has been taking a horrible shit for the last few years and the jobs have become more scarce than ever. I got an offer from some friends to move up north to Wisconsin to see if I can find a job up there. My bills are beginning to pile up with no end in sight so hopefully I can start a new life up there.
To those who use me to gift games my apologies if I miss any offers for you. Still send me a PM though and if I can make it to a computer to hook you up I will. I can view the forum on my phone but it's inconvenient so I dunno how much I'll be checking in.
Ouch... things really are getting bad then, mate? Well good luck in Wisconsin, I hope you manage to find a job and can start clearing off some of those bills. Take care! <3
Ouch... things really are getting bad then, mate? Well good luck in Wisconsin, I hope you manage to find a job and can start clearing off some of those bills. Take care! <3
Been unemployed for 2 weeks, before that I worked for 6 months and got laid off, spend 4 months unemployed before that.
Sometimes I get the feeling people in Norway are way to spoiled
Been unemployed for years and have no economical problems.
Not the same deal in Sweden anymore tho
You leech! So how much are we talking about?
enough to survive. I don't get any welfare. But I live very cheap and therefor have money for vacations etc.
I earned quite a lot in a IT company 3 years ago But Norway is expensive, so its easy to use money fast
Sometimes I get the feeling people in Norway are way to spoiled
Been unemployed for years and have no economical problems.
Not the same deal in Sweden anymore tho
Exactly the same here! I don't know what the fuck those Americans (and Canadians?) are talking about.
No I'm not "rich" but financial problems? I can pay everything every month, that's never been any problem in my life, ever. Sure there's people with economical problems in Holland but they have chosen to spend more than they get.
The USA way of life sounds VERY unfamiliar to me. All these bills? Sure you pay rent and insurance here but it's no problem. Car payments... what I'm familiar with is paying the car in 1 go and you're done. No it's not a Hummer but why the fuck would you need one? And leaving everything behind because you are desperate to find a job? Sounds like 1948. If you're in between jobs here the government will pay you. Should you get really ill - government will pay you.
You can focus on what you want to achieve in life and not waste time with frustrating financial bullshit. Sure there's lots of people here that can't make ends meet... but they have chosen to. Americans sometimes like to bash Western Europe because we're socialists. The impression I'm getting is a lot of Americans are struggling financially and there's a lot of inequality. I'd rather be a "communist" than have sleepless nights because of financial worries.
And no I don't feel guilty or spoilt. The Americans have chosen themselves to lead a life or hardcore capitalism. Good luck voting Tea Party or Republicans!
Lopin18 wrote:
I think you played too much Fallout 3, Pedo Perk acquired.
You're really not seeing things straight Rofl_Mao.
First of all, keep in mind that the social programs in the US are shit compared to ours. All the shit YOU take for granted is not standard over there. And no, they haven't "chosen" for it. Most of them were like, born there with little to no influence on the fucked up politics. Just like you were born here and have no influence whatsoever on our politics. Yeah you can vote for a party, who promise a load of bollocks and eventually still don't do much. We're just lucky that over here governments figured out a long time ago that it's better to spend taxes on stuff that actually comes back to people, like health care and such, instead of the fucking military.
I hope you do realise that the US' healthcare budget is about as big as ours here in NL right? Except they have to make do with that budget for a good 300 million people or so, whereas here it's meant for 16.5 million.
Don't get me wrong, the US government is about as fucked up as it gets, but people like SpykeZ hardly "chose" it.
And there are more people struggling here than you seem to think. There are plenty of people who pay their cars in installments just the same, or their kitchens etcetera for that matter. Why the fuck do you think most Polish people leave their country? Because it's so awesome there? No offense to the Poles on here, but my uncle married a Polish girl so I've seen the difference first hand when we went over there for the wedding. That and the fact that 75% of the "dumb" forces in my area are Polish says enough already.
Good luck SpykeZ, we already spoke so I just hope to see you back soon man
Well, I see the US model to be a lot better than ours here. There's no other country on this world, where the market is as free, and where you have so few obligatory expenses - which means you can reinvest more in your business. Social nets offer safety, but cost you freedom, and vice-versa. I think US politics is very far from fucked up. You want fucked up? Look at Russia, that's fucked up.
I'm very sorry for you, SpykeZ, but you guys should never have went with a president as inexperienced and as liberal as Obama, he just doesn't work for the country, and the economy shows it. Double digit dip any day now, and a few years back, when asked about unemployment, he laughed, while giving an answer. Such entitled elitist fuckface.
I feel for those, who can't afford health insurance, but I also like the system having as few social nets as they do. Here in Romania, for example, most people, and I mean VAST majority completely abuse the social system. Unemployed gypsy mothers having kids every second year, sending them to beg, once they are like 3-4, AND get social benefits from our taxes, while not contributing anything themselves ... other than their odor and crime rates.
I'd chose the US system in a heartbeat, but that's because I drive myself to excel, some people just like to sit back, enjoy life, do nothing and smoke weed, while talking like gangstas!
Well, I see the US model to be a lot better than ours here. There's no other country on this world, where the market is as free, and where you have so few obligatory expenses - which means you can reinvest more in your business. Social nets offer safety, but cost you freedom, and vice-versa. I think US politics is very far from fucked up. You want fucked up? Look at Russia, that's fucked up.
I'm very sorry for you, SpykeZ, but you guys should never have went with a president as inexperienced and as liberal as Obama, he just doesn't work for the country, and the economy shows it. Double digit dip any day now, and a few years back, when asked about unemployment, he laughed, while giving an answer. Such entitled elitist fuckface.
I feel for those, who can't afford health insurance, but I also like the system having as few social nets as they do. Here in Romania, for example, most people, and I mean VAST majority completely abuse the social system. Unemployed gypsy mothers having kids every second year, sending them to beg, once they are like 3-4, AND get social benefits from our taxes, while not contributing anything themselves ... other than their odor and crime rates.
I'd chose the US system in a heartbeat, but that's because I drive myself to excel, some people just like to sit back, enjoy life, do nothing and smoke weed, while talking like gangstas!
You have social security in Romania? Didn't expect that but good for you. The proactive attitude will help your country probably... though the country itself may be driving you insane
"while not contributing anything themselves ... other than their odor and crime rates."
Lopin18 wrote:
I think you played too much Fallout 3, Pedo Perk acquired.
Well, I see the US model to be a lot better than ours here. There's no other country on this world, where the market is as free, and where you have so few obligatory expenses - which means you can reinvest more in your business. Social nets offer safety, but cost you freedom, and vice-versa. I think US politics is very far from fucked up. You want fucked up? Look at Russia, that's fucked up.
I'm very sorry for you, SpykeZ, but you guys should never have went with a president as inexperienced and as liberal as Obama, he just doesn't work for the country, and the economy shows it. Double digit dip any day now, and a few years back, when asked about unemployment, he laughed, while giving an answer. Such entitled elitist fuckface.
I feel for those, who can't afford health insurance, but I also like the system having as few social nets as they do. Here in Romania, for example, most people, and I mean VAST majority completely abuse the social system. Unemployed gypsy mothers having kids every second year, sending them to beg, once they are like 3-4, AND get social benefits from our taxes, while not contributing anything themselves ... other than their odor and crime rates.
I'd chose the US system in a heartbeat, but that's because I drive myself to excel, some people just like to sit back, enjoy life, do nothing and smoke weed, while talking like gangstas!
Yeah, like Obama is to blame for the fucked up economic situation? I really do not understand you Americans. You get screwed over and over by deregulation and yet you want to push it further and further.
The great depression in 1930 was caused by free market that did not work. Hyperinflation in the 70 was caused by limited government intervention that just naively pumped money into the markets instead of real regulation and the financial meltdown in 08 was caused by the deregulation of the Glass–Steagall Act. So you blame Obama for fucked up economy?
Global economy went down like a rollercoaster because of liquidity contraction on the markets because the US housing markets that was on steroids (thank to deregulation) collapsed in a heartbeat (also thanks to deregulation). Where is Obama to blame for that? He did not allow banks to be 1:30 leveraged, overpay for every asset they could find and then collapse when a minimal margin call was called. HE did not put the US in a huge debt because they needed to go to war in some godforsaken country like afghanistan. If they had a consequent attitude towards the war, i could even follow the logic (and still disagree though). But no, that s not the case. Huge parts of aghanistan were occupied for some time and then just abandoned without any reason, so why spend 2bln a week and then just leave?
I am very economic liberal myself, people in Belgium call me an extremist eco liberal..., you have to place things into context. There are ways to make shitloads of money and keep general welfare up.
You have to protect people from shit happening because if not, they don't take risks. Just look at the USA. People with no money cannot go to college or grad school, they cannot take 'a year off' to try to start their own business. Result: only people with loads of dollars can take an enterpreneurial risk and money becomes more & more concentrated. Just make the markets work at just levels. It is just like poker, if you have a small stack and you cannot rebuy, the bigger player rips you off all the time. You need some backup in life to stimulate those people to take risks that drive innovation and push economy forwards.
Another example: healthcare, that is absolutely RIDICULOUS in the USA. How can people be against a reform? You know it costs 20x in the US to buy a pill than the same pill costs in Europe. Why is that? Just to fuel the profit of pharma companies and insurance companies. You let pure free market work between 2 monopolies: 1) the pharma, 2) insurance companies that dont care about the price as long as their clients pay If the insurance would become a semi-public thing, just as anywhere else in the world, prices would come down dramatically (too bad for pharma) and loooooooads of people would have better access to medical needs. It is a win win on the long run anyway. Who will work for the ageing population in the future, you cannot afford half of the uninsured 50yr olds drop out of the market because they are a little bit ill or need an operation and cannot afford it.
Who said that free market works best anyway? True if you have complete competition on all the submarkets (and even then) but that is never the case. I can give you hundreds of books proving that in modern economies market friction and semi monopolies are more rule than exception and regulation improves equality and general welfare, yet people seem to handsomely ignore that when suited.
And there will certainly not be a double digit dip, or you insane? The only reason we see a deceleration in growth is Fukushima. Fundamentals are still more than healthy, confidence is up, we will see solid Q2 results in my eyes. Lots of companies are coming to the markets in IPOs, so there is confidence at the companies that we will see growth in the future and especially at the investor side. Commodities are finally coming down, so reconstruction in Japan will happen and be a huge catalyst for basic industries at lower input costs than expected and will in my eyes be another driver for more growth and profit.
What is the alternatif to a democrat president? A republican? By the time they have changed all the biology books, the US economy would be runover by the Chinese and all the tax revenue would be spent in wars around the world. 20 bln spent on desert airco in wars the last years, thats money that could have been more useful, no?
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
He is willing to work but cannot find a job. Instead of paying him a limited amount of money so he can survive for a short period (there are enough methods to accomplish that and keep 'gypsies' out, max 1 year or so; or 75% given and 25% you have to pay back with pension money or later when you make money).
But now he has to move away, spend money on moving, getting his life going there, adapting to a new situation. It makes him less productive economy wise. So even if he finds a job, he will contribute less to the economy than if he had the same job back where he is now. And the fact that he has no backup plan, forces him to take the first acceptable offer instead of the 2nd or 3rd acceptable offer that is more suited for him. So instead of having him possibly working at 100% he now has to accept a 80% efficient job. Once again, playing poker with a small stack and being forced by the circumstances instead of being really productive. In the end the big boys take everything again.
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So how much are we talking about? 
But Norway is expensive, so its easy to use money fast 
I don't know what the fuck those Americans (and Canadians?) are talking about.
