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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 13:31    Post subject:
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 13:32    Post subject:
Maybe, maybe not.. but the very least someone can do is be honest Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 13:34    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
AnarchoS wrote:
If u like the game U don t have to defend it.
Its just my opinion and everybody is entitled to theirs.


If "u" hate the game "U" don't have to attack it.

Its just my opinion and everybody is entitled to theirs.

Weee, reverse logic is awesome!


I agree, but I guess u didn t get my post, so I changed it.

And I never said that I hate the game, I just dont like what developers did with it.

How can U hate a game, it s a game.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 13:40    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Maybe, maybe not.. but the very least someone can do is be honest Wink


Honest? How can your definition of honest match his definition of honest if you both have different opinions Laughing



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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 13:40    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 13:42    Post subject:
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Honest? How can your definition of honest match his definition of honest if you both have different opinions Laughing


I played for longer than 5 minutes and, thus, have the ability to give an honest opinion on what the game is like. How can you claim otherwise? How can anyone who has played a 17hr+ game for 5 minutes be capable of formulating a opinion with any basis in truth?

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Casus




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 13:47    Post subject:
You seem to be confusing honesty with truth.

He might not have a very useful opinion, but if he's not lying or willfully holding anything back - he's being honest.

Looking for "truth" here, is a bit naive Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 13:47    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 13:49    Post subject:
Casus wrote:

Looking for "truth" here, is a bit naive Smile


You're certainly right about that. Too many trolling pricks on this site, it grows more and more like 4chan every single day. I don't know why I waste my time.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 13:50    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 13:51    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
yuri999 wrote:


Honest? How can your definition of honest match his definition of honest if you both have different opinions Laughing


I played for longer than 5 minutes and, thus, have the ability to give an honest opinion on what the game is like. How can you claim otherwise? How can anyone who has played a 17hr+ game for 5 minutes be capable of formulating a opinion with any basis in truth?

garus wrote:

OH SNAP Very Happy


Piss off Rolling Eyes


Not really If u like it ure opinion is not objective as its not mine, U cant call it truth if u played it longer than me.

Well for how long do u think I should play a game to warant me liking a game or not, and be allowed to post my opinion on line, and not be called a troll?

Arcade game is that what its name is. Arcades, places where there were those bulky huge machines that me and my friends played when we were little kids.

And The best rpg is real life.Smile


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Casus




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 13:56    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Casus wrote:

Looking for "truth" here, is a bit naive Smile


You're certainly right about that. Too many trolling pricks on this site, it grows more and more like 4chan every single day. I don't know why I waste my time.


Do I qualify as a "troll prick"? Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 14:17    Post subject:
garus wrote:
Don't waste it, because you are wrong on a basic level. No such thing as objective opinion. No one is gonna take you seriously when you make such common mistake.

Is his opinion about first impression incorrect? He decided he doesn't like the first 5 minutes, it's stilll HIS opinion.


But to be honest, the ONLY thing said is that the first 5 minutes of the game wasn't good.. in HIS opinion. It says nothing about the rest of the game, and since it's an opinion it's purely subjective and should be ignored (esp. since we're talking about the first 5 minutes of the game which is all about teaching the player how to play the game).


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 14:22    Post subject:
There are gameplay videos, dev quotes that say they tried to make the control and targeting similar to ninja gaiden, a demo out.
What's the point of even downloading and installing a game to try it for 5 mins when you think console arcade games are shit and this one didn't really try to hide what it is?
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 14:22    Post subject:
It's not like he's forcing anyone to care about his opinion. Ignore it if you want, but don't say he's lying because you disagree with him.

Personally, I tend to go by my own opinion - since I have the privilige to try these games for free.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 14:36    Post subject:
Casus wrote:
It's not like he's forcing anyone to care about his opinion. Ignore it if you want, but don't say he's lying because you disagree with him.

Personally, I tend to go by my own opinion - since I have the privilige to try these games for free.


It's hard to ignore an opinion that's being shoved into your face
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Casus




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 14:41    Post subject:
Shoved in your face as in posted on a public forum you've chosen to be a part of?

Personally, I find it incredibly easy to ignore. Rather, I find it easy to read and dismiss for what it is - which is an uninformed and rash opinion.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 15:15    Post subject:
Shoved as in screaming, kicking and talking to others like they're worst of scum.


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Fuck you troll. Fuck you and your entire aids-infested family. Get cancer and die. Slowly.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 15:28    Post subject:
I´m liking the game so far, it plays like Diablo but with smaller levels and more quests. I love action rpg´s and the mindless looting, and it plays perfectly with gamepad, on the pc, i just wish there was a better character progression, the skills and the way you evolve them, are weak.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 16:02    Post subject:
Mussolinka wrote:
Shoved as in screaming, kicking and talking to others like they're worst of scum.


I'm not talking about what happened in your mind, but on this forum.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 16:16    Post subject:
Ok, after I've finished the masterpiece that was the first Dungeon Siege yesterday, I decided to actually try this one. I still think it's very bad, even on its own. I wasn't expecting to like anything about it actually, but I like the presentation of the game. The problem is, the gameplay is just amazingly bad and I don't care how it plays with a gamepad. This clearly is a rushed port, they could have adapted the game properly to the keyboard + mouse controls, but they didn't. The problem isn't just in the controls, everything about the gameplay feels wrong. I tried every character until the Legion Chapterhouse and I don't like any of them, though if I will continue playing it (and I don't really feel like doing so) I will play with Lucas as it's similar to The Bard's Tale that way. The voices to the protagonists don't fit at all. I remember that I saw some concept art (I think) with Lucas and he looked awesome, but in the game he looks like some "cool kiddo" from some anime shit. There's a lot more I would say, but I will stop here...


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 18:51    Post subject:
Casus wrote:
Mussolinka wrote:
Shoved as in screaming, kicking and talking to others like they're worst of scum.


I'm not talking about what happened in your mind, but on this forum.


Quote:
trolling pricks


That's an assertive opinion to you? Done with you as well.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 19:04    Post subject:
DarkRohirrim wrote:
Ok, after I've finished the masterpiece that was the first Dungeon Siege yesterday, I decided to actually try this one. I still think it's very bad, even on its own. I wasn't expecting to like anything about it actually, but I like the presentation of the game. The problem is, the gameplay is just amazingly bad and I don't care how it plays with a gamepad. This clearly is a rushed port, they could have adapted the game properly to the keyboard + mouse controls, but they didn't. The problem isn't just in the controls, everything about the gameplay feels wrong. I tried every character until the Legion Chapterhouse and I don't like any of them, though if I will continue playing it (and I don't really feel like doing so) I will play with Lucas as it's similar to The Bard's Tale that way. The voices to the protagonists don't fit at all. I remember that I saw some concept art (I think) with Lucas and he looked awesome, but in the game he looks like some "cool kiddo" from some anime shit. There's a lot more I would say, but I will stop here...



So wait, you played 5 minutes with each character and decided you didn't like it?

Gonna quote someone from above now.

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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 19:11    Post subject:
Jeez, since when: not liking a game = being dumb/troll ?

Is DSIII the holy fucking grail of videogames ??!?..... Why the hell so defensive ? He stated a point in a polite manner dammit

Just cause the "allmighty" sabin1981 likes this game no one can point out flaws or criticize the game anymore ??
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 19:15    Post subject:
Wrong, he's been bitching and moaning about this game on every page in this thread.


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 19:25    Post subject:
caccolo wrote:
Jeez, since when: not liking a game = being dumb/troll ?

My points have never been geared towards whoever likes it or hates it, which you'd know if you'd bothered to read before whining about me. I call out someone for being a dumb troll when they immediately discount something, claiming it to be a "shallow arcade clickfest" after playing it for only 5 minutes. You'll notice that I never mentioned anything about him liking/hating the game, just that I don't believe he has played it long enough to qualify his statement of it being a shallow arcade clickfest.

5 minutes is simply not enough time to warrant that kind of statement.

I don't care who likes it or who hates it.

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Just cause the "allmighty" sabin1981 likes this game no one can point out flaws or criticize the game anymore ??


Funny. Care to point out a single example? As for being "almighty" - I don't think so. You'll find I more universally hated than liked around here, because I'm passionate about my games and I have strong opinions on them -- but I don't really give a rat's ass. Say what you want about me, I'll never change who I am
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 19:30    Post subject:
Oh no not i, i will survive, as long as i know how to live i know i'll stay alive


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 19:30    Post subject:
DarkRohirrim wrote:
Ok, after I've finished the masterpiece that was the first Dungeon Siege yesterday, I decided to actually try this one. I still think it's very bad, even on its own. I wasn't expecting to like anything about it actually, but I like the presentation of the game. The problem is, the gameplay is just amazingly bad and I don't care how it plays with a gamepad. This clearly is a rushed port, they could have adapted the game properly to the keyboard + mouse controls, but they didn't. The problem isn't just in the controls, everything about the gameplay feels wrong. I tried every character until the Legion Chapterhouse and I don't like any of them, though if I will continue playing it (and I don't really feel like doing so) I will play with Lucas as it's similar to The Bard's Tale that way. The voices to the protagonists don't fit at all. I remember that I saw some concept art (I think) with Lucas and he looked awesome, but in the game he looks like some "cool kiddo" from some anime shit. There's a lot more I would say, but I will stop here...


This is right. They should just called it, "Another generic Arpg, slightly anime looking, especially made for play with your new console pad given by your granpa on christmas", and not destroy the name.


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2011 19:31    Post subject:
I'd like to ask a few questions to the guys who have played this game for a couple of minutes, since they figured the game out. Which of the skills do you think is fun? How is the loot system? Any nice items? What do you think of teh story after it opens up? Do you think the lore behind the game is cool? How many did you read?
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