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| peter980 wrote: | | tonizito wrote: | Having played a bit more I finally found something that I missed in most of the FPS games recently: the (so called) puzzles.
And I wonder how much they're contributing to the bad grades the game has been getting so far, wouldn't surprise me if some of the POS game journos out there were stuck at some point and didn't like the lack of hand holding... |
Yeah, way too many people expected simple brainless shooter from DNF, and it really isn't just that. I guess that 3D Realms, after seeing Half-Life 1/2, wanted to do something more like that. With variable gameplay, including puzzles, driving and stuff. |
This. The campaign has been mostly inspired by HL1&2, you have to be blind if you can't see it.
It even has 2 Valve/HL references/jokes.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 11:20 Post subject: |
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The game has done more harm than good for Gearbox's rep. Most people, even DNF "fans" that should know a few things about its development, believe it's Gearbox's game and they are responsible for it.
I'm tired of reading comments like "I hope Aliens: Colonial Marines doesn't suck as much" or "how can they go from Borderlands-quality to DNF-quality?? This makes me fear for Borderlands 2" or "They should let 3D Realms make their own game.. THAT DNF would be epic. But no, they had to buy the IP and destroy it."
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 11:41 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | This. The campaign has been mostly inspired by HL1&2, you have to be blind if you can't see it.
It even has 2 Valve/HL references/jokes. |
Inspired perhaps, but the quality is way waaaay below HL1/2. In fact, if you've played either HL game, you'll be able to solve the DNF "puzzles" in seconds.
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 12:13 Post subject: |
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Have previous Steam games been cracked to allow multiplayer? How does that work?
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ixigia
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 13:22 Post subject: |
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I'm actually having more fun with this game than I did with Crysis 2, and I'm not kidding 
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Aeon
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 14:01 Post subject: |
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I agree.
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 14:06 Post subject: |
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Thirded from me. I'm enjoying DNF =)
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 14:25 Post subject: |
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| ixigia wrote: | | I'm actually having more fun with this game than I did with Crysis 2, and I'm not kidding |
+1 and I liked Crysis 2. Not saying the DNF is great or that it's not obviously problematic though.
| maul_inc wrote: | They should have kept DNF on the PC, that would have cut down on the amount of hateful reviews as the console version apparently have annoying issues like really crappy visuals and gameplay that isn't Gamepad friendly... And insane load times  |
Absolutely. Release it on PC for $30-40, with no stupid 2-weapon limits and the reception of it would be a lot better.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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acida
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 14:28 Post subject: |
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$15 is the most appropriate price for the game.
If 'Duke Nukem' hadn't been in the game's title, I would've thought this was another crappy Russian attempt at making at least an average FPS.
All the review scores spanning different platforms are completely justified.
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 14:31 Post subject: |
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| human_steel wrote: | $15 is the most appropriate price for the game.
If 'Duke Nukem' hadn't been in the game's title, I would've thought this was another crappy Russian attempt at making at least an average FPS.
All the review scores spanning different platforms are completely justified. |
No, they are not when they give Black Ops a 9/10, then I would expect DNF to get at least a 4/10.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 14:44 Post subject: |
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Anyone who could upload a save game??!!? Still can't resume my game after that razor bug release.
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Frant
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 14:58 Post subject: |
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The difference is Triptych is "3D Realms + 2 other people" while Gearbox was started by "2 3D Realms people + a shitload of others"
(although over the years a lot more 3DR employees moved to GBX)
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Frant
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 15:00 Post subject: |
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They all escaped from Broussard's mismanagement.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 15:18 Post subject: |
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i'm loving this. It's a proper duke game. Nothing less nothing more.
| Sin317 wrote: | | I win, you lose. Or Go fuck yourself. |
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 15:19 Post subject: |
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| Odyssee wrote: | | Anyone who could upload a save game??!!? Still can't resume my game after that razor bug release. |
Which map were you playing?
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 16:15 Post subject: |
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I thought that the 2 weapon limit was the worst thing about this game, but I now realize that there's something much worse that nearly kills the game for me: the 10 min levels.
Had it happening ~5 times now, just when I'm really having fun with the shooting, puzzle sequences or with just the map itself -> fade to black -> 20 second loading of Map X: Part 3. 
Much better than the demo so far, but IMO it pales in comparison with duke3d.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 16:17 Post subject: |
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Still nowhere near Portal 2's frequency of loading screens 
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 16:18 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | Still nowhere near Portal 2's frequency of loading screens |
I... uh... haven't played portal 2 yet. 
*runs away*
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 17:01 Post subject: |
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| Yondaime wrote: |
What? Nothing less? How about only two weapons at the same time, no exploring, no real challenge whatsoever, it's basically nothing like Duke 3D except for the occasional humor... |
It's a shooter with duke as the main character. The stuff they couldn't do then, they did now. I love it. It's exactly duke. If this game came out a year or so after duke3D people would be praising it. Calling it brilliant and ingenius. Now, they're disappointed. It's pathetic. I don't have a problem with only 2 guns. It plays like duke for me. At least what I remember of playing duke3D. Over the top mindless fun. Easy puzzles. Crude level design. Enemy that's challenging at times and gameplay that fits the genre of duke nukem.
Truth is, yes the game is shit compared to what is out there today right now. But, the game isn't shit when it's compared to duke nukem. I feel, in my honest opinion, that this is a worthy successor for duke.
It's fun. It's quirky. It's enjoyable. It's a shooter.
If you look pass the tedious bits the developers chose, you can actually enjoy it.
This game is duke nukem.
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 17:10 Post subject: |
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Duke3d's level design was anything but crude, especially for its time. Glad people enjoy it, but DNF simply isn't fun for me. Nowhere close to Duke3d in terms of gameplay enjoyment. Duke3d was cutting edge, and they even managed to overshadow Quake with their artisic use of their pixel engine. Compared to that, DNF is an abomination.
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 17:18 Post subject: |
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is it? yes then duke then was an achievement. memorable fun achievement. Now duke is just fun. It's a modern duke. Yes it's not groundbreaking. Yes it's not half life 3. But it's duke. Feels like duke. Plays like duke.
People who hold on to fond memories of their old classics, should just let go and enjoy what is given. Or don't even play it. Because you will be disappointed regardless of what you will be playing.
| Sin317 wrote: | | I win, you lose. Or Go fuck yourself. |
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 17:21 Post subject: |
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Sorry Waldo, but comparing duke3d's maps with these...?
No... just, no.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 17:23 Post subject: |
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Lol. That's fair. Duke Purists will be anal. But from what I remember of duke3D now, while playing this game... is that it's similar.
| Sin317 wrote: | | I win, you lose. Or Go fuck yourself. |
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Jun 2011 17:23 Post subject: |
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It's not a modern duke at all. Back when Duke3d came out, Duke was the first real personality in gaming, voice and everything. That's why one-liner movie quotes like "hail to the king baby" where more than enough. Today? Not so much, not for 50 bucks. Times have changes, duke has not. And the gameplay is laughable.
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