[PS2] 6 games on the 27th ?
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jonels
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 10:29    Post subject: [PS2] 6 games on the 27th ?
i noticed 6 games were released yesterday (27th).. anybody know anything about them ?

1)Predator Concrete Jungle
2)TT Superbikes (sounds interesting)
3)Stella Deus
4)Motorcross Mania
5)Resident Evil Outbreak 2 (sounds a big title to me?)
6)Spy vs Spy
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kurisu




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 11:17    Post subject:
most are crap.

stella deus looks like a nice old skool 2d strategic rpg tho... outbreak 2 looks good too but i'll wait 4 or 5 months for the pal release so i can take it online.


don't i need some magical illegal thing?
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 18:20    Post subject:
kurisu wrote:
most are crap.

stella deus looks like a nice old skool 2d strategic rpg tho... outbreak 2 looks good too but i'll wait 4 or 5 months for the pal release so i can take it online.


Umm, you can take the NTSC version online. Its 4 players.
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 18:31    Post subject:
He problary has a PAL machine and you cant take ntsc games online using a pal machine Sad
I have tried it myself and all you get is a dumb code that means "wrong region" basicly :/

With older machines you could change the machine ID from pal-ntsc or ntsc-pal but you cant on newer ones Sad
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 18:36    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
He problary has a PAL machine and you cant take ntsc games online using a pal machine Sad
I have tried it myself and all you get is a dumb code that means "wrong region" basicly :/

With older machines you could change the machine ID from pal-ntsc or ntsc-pal but you cant on newer ones Sad


Oh that sucks. Unless he got his PS2 premodded. I imagine alot or most places sell theirs NTSC. I imagine he bought his overseas in just a store than got his modded.

Wouldnt the new Matrix Infinity chip auto fix that? I know it changes region codes on Pal games so you dont have to patch it yourself. Thats what happened when I downloaded Haunting Ground. I found out I didnt even need to patch it, just play it.

I kinda figured it would set the machine accordingly to the game also?
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 18:45    Post subject:
Most countries have some place that sell premodded consoles, so I dont think he bought it overseas. Only in sweden we have like 5-6 online places Smile

Sounds good that auto thing on the new matrix chip, but I dont think it changes the machine ID, but I'm not sure so dont quote me on that Smile

It's really shitty anyway that sony limited the internet to your region only. Some games are not even released in europe so you're fucked then, even if you imported it legally :/
No idea why they did that.
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 18:51    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
Most countries have some place that sell premodded consoles, so I dont think he bought it overseas. Only in sweden we have like 5-6 online places Smile

Sounds good that auto thing on the new matrix chip, but I dont think it changes the machine ID, but I'm not sure so dont quote me on that Smile

It's really shitty anyway that sony limited the internet to your region only. Some games are not even released in europe so you're fucked then, even if you imported it legally :/
No idea why they did that.


Unless you order your premodded PS2 from US or Canada. I got mine from Canada awhile ago.
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Diob




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 20:51    Post subject:
yeah outbreak is great! dunno why gamespot only gave it a 6.6. i don't like gamespot anyway. u can go online with the ntsc version if u have a PAL PS2. i did it too
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 20:55    Post subject:
You can? That's weird.
Maybe they didn't put the check on that game..................
Incredible strange.
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 00:17    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
You can? That's weird.
Maybe they didn't put the check on that game..................
Incredible strange.


Unless he got the DNAs and patched the game with it. Thats what I did with FN Round 2.

Unless your talking about the check for the actual region of the PS2.
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 00:24    Post subject:
Yeah the machine ID check.
The dnas can be patched onto a copy, but most games check the machine ID (region) too.
But since he could play this online with a PAL machine, capcom must have skipped the machine checks. Smile
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kurisu




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 11:24    Post subject:
hey guys, yeah i have a pal console with matrix infinity... i dnas patch the pal games, but not the ntsc games coz the dnas patch does not take care of the region check, as i found out when i tried it with burnout 3 ntsc...

can anyone confirm that the ntsc version of this game works online with a pal ps2? or that the matrix takes care of the regio check somehow?


don't i need some magical illegal thing?
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Diob




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 14:37    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
Yeah the machine ID check.
The dnas can be patched onto a copy, but most games check the machine ID (region) too.
But since he could play this online with a PAL machine, capcom must have skipped the machine checks. Smile


nah, i changed my machine ID al long time ago Razz that's why i got online. the game checks your machine ID of course too
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 14:59    Post subject:
Ahh I see. Smile
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justjermaine




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 20:59    Post subject: )TT Superbikes (sounds interesting
A real good bike game
better than Motogp4
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Breakneck




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 21:31    Post subject: Re: )TT Superbikes (sounds interesting
justjermaine wrote:
A real good bike game
better than Motogp4


Yep, it ain't bad... btw, MotoGP 3 by Climax will come out for Xbox and PC this fall and it looks pretty cool especially the new extreme mode.
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reddragon105




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 05:40    Post subject:
is it confirmed that the PAL version is going to be online?
they removed the multiplayer from the PAL release of the first Outbreak. that pretty much forces us PAL users to get the NTSC release and use a machine id changer

hope Outbreak 2 PAL is online... they should re-release the first one too
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 06:17    Post subject:
They removed multiplayer on the PAL version? How stupid is that. The whole idea with the game is multiplayer, and they remove it. Talk about idiotic move by capcom. :/
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 07:34    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
They removed multiplayer on the PAL version? How stupid is that. The whole idea with the game is multiplayer, and they remove it. Talk about idiotic move by capcom. :/


The biggest idiotic move by Capcom was them not adding voice chat or even a keyboard to in game play of Resident Evil Outbreak 2. Instead, you play with other players who are quite new to the scenarios, end up wandering around aimlessly, and a total of hours spent on a scenario doing shit in the game. Fuckin' players.

I spent an hour on the last scenario and at the end this player decided to run ahead and finish the game, and triggered the ending cutscene of the scenario. In case you havent played the Outbreak yet, if someone goes ahead and does the finish, players who are left behind when they go to the end, they dont finish the game, or get the points. Its retarded man.

Capcom needs to add a fuckin voice chat of some sort to their online RE games.
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 16:26    Post subject:
Haha, that doesn't sound too fun. Damn, I would get damn angry if someone ran and finished the scenario without me.
I can imagen walking around the map somewhere and suddenly you get this "screen" "scenario finished"..I would go "Huh, WTF?" Smile
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 23:16    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
Haha, that doesn't sound too fun. Damn, I would get damn angry if someone ran and finished the scenario without me.
I can imagen walking around the map somewhere and suddenly you get this "screen" "scenario finished"..I would go "Huh, WTF?" Smile


It doesnt say that though. The game goes on forever without saying anythings finished. You just walk around until you exit without getting any points at all. And its hard to tell because theres no button even as a room maker where you can tell if anyone from your team is alive. So you could accidently exit and lose the game while the other guys are still playing, and will probably win. Yesterday I spent 2 fuckin hours walking around scenarios only to be betrayed by my fuckin team who decided it was a good idea to rush off, than die.
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reddragon105




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st May 2005 02:02    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
They removed multiplayer on the PAL version? How stupid is that. The whole idea with the game is multiplayer, and they remove it. Talk about idiotic move by capcom. :/


yep thats right, it became an offline online game. all we're left with is the shitty AI. that's why i got an NTSC version - but of course i can't play it because i have a PAL console. will have to see if i can get this machine changer doohickey to work
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st May 2005 03:01    Post subject:
I know alot of gamers out there are retarded, but please. It would help if we had a fucking way to communicate with each other in the game.

Oh I forgot to tell you guys the funny part yesterday. We were playing the first scenario which is Wild Things. Here I was in the dam flower dome, trying to get the object I needed to backtrack back to the office to put it in the statue to get a certain aligator key to carry onto the Plaza. All I had to tell these stupid retards was the wait and go commands your characters shout. Anyway, I went to backtrack and put it in which took me about a good 5 minutes to get back there. When I put it in the statue in the inner office, my team was already scattered around the lake side area. There was about one guy who was already waiting at the aligator door when I came back. I was playing the main RPD officer Kevin, and I had no ammo. Why? Because my stupid team took it all and wasted it by shooting at the walls. So here I am with 2 bullets left going to fight the lion boss outside on the streets past the plaza. So I'm thinking, ok I dont have enough ammo to kill this guy or I would by myself, So I went back to get my team. Than meanwhile the idiot in front of me decided it would be good to fight the lion boss himself on the very hard mode. Big trouble. He had to die off screen because more of my team were coming back in 1s to take their shots at the lion boss. If anyone played that scenario on very hard difficulty, you'd know that along with the lion boss comes two female lions helping it out. So my team gets whiped out and we already wasted 2 hours when really we should of done the scenario in 15 mins max. And I didnt go all this way with this bull shit to not pick up the points for this game. So I kept looking for 10 minutes for ammo, found about a bunch including a shotgun which was more than enough to kill the lion. However, I assumed since my other 3 guys apart of the team already weakened the 3 lions. So I decided to face him and I was wrong!!!! Fuckin' idiots didnt even shoot at the dam boss and 2 lions once. So I end up killing the boss along with the 2 lions, ending cutscene comes by where I escaped by the subway train. I came back into the lobby and fuckin flipped on those people Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

Oh man, RE OutBreak 2 has potential to be great, but they fuck it up with no in game chat. I hope they fix that in Outbreak 3. I also hear their adding more scenarios for OutBreak 2 as downloadable content online. Thats gonna be great.

Lesson Learned: Before playing this game online please make sure you have the tv and game by ur computer where you can talk to your team signed online while doing so. Or atleast talk on the mic or phone. That helps.
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st May 2005 03:29    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
Haha, that doesn't sound too fun. Damn, I would get damn angry if someone ran and finished the scenario without me.
I can imagen walking around the map somewhere and suddenly you get this "screen" "scenario finished"..I would go "Huh, WTF?" Smile


Hah, you havent heard nothing yet. Another thing I did last night was the Underbelly scenario. Towards the end (bad idea on the developers part), you fight a bunch of giant roaches. Its in the subway tunnels. You know where the trains go on the rails? Problem is the fight takes place by the dam end of the east tunnel, so once you beat that and trigger a cutscene, you walk into the dark area which loads the next section of the tunnels. Than the insects still chase ya and heres where the prob begins. Because theres swarms that jump out at you when ur trying to make ur escape to the subway train, you can screw up and hit back and that makes you go back into the east tunnel which creates a loading time again. Than you miss the fuckin' train Sad Happened to me last night when I tried saving this guy who was playing George the doctor, shooting fuckin healing capsules at the dam roaches LMFAO. So he was injured and I was kind enough to hand him medical kit spray. He uses it than more creatures jump out and everyone flys back into the east tunnel loading time and misses the dam train.

Luckily, everyone was left alive, but we had to reset the game because of that gay player.
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st May 2005 03:54    Post subject:
Haha. These stories are great, keep 'em coming hitman Very Happy
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st May 2005 05:11    Post subject:
I have to ask though Pallebrun. Are these the works of retarded players or the misscommunication which Crapcom did?
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st May 2005 05:30    Post subject:
Well, I dont think the running back thing was everyones fault, because once you go past the east tunnel where the train is to leave the game and end the scenario, its the devs fault IMO because after you go into the next loading zone on the screen, why make it so your so close to the loading zone you came out of, that when those fuckin roaches jump ya, you end up running back into the east tunnel. By the time you come back the next loading zone which u left from, the train already leaves.

This still wouldnt of had happened if that dam George the doctor wasnt fuckin' shooting healing capsules at the roaches Laughing I guess the guy didnt know the difference between a .45 handgun and a gun that looks like a revolver, that shoots healing capsules. And those capsules are used to be shot at your team to heal them when their in trouble.

I dont know what I hate more. The stupid players or the fact that we cant talk in the game. When someone says come here or go, or wait. Thats not enough to understand much. For instance, when you need to back track to get an item to finish a scenario, and your char says wait, your team doesnt know anything except the command wait.

Dam. And to top it all off they made alot of the scenarios insanely hard for new players who join.

The worst part of all of this is that you have the ability in some scenarios to trigger cutscenes ahead of the ones earlier. So for example:

You can trigger later cutscenes in the scenario WT and your team will probably end up forgetting to trigger the ones earlier in the game such as the one where you trap the zombie elephant in its cage. Real gay.
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