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AnimalMother the point of the level cap is to get everyone on a level playing field for PvP. After that you can still learn better skills which you can use in PvP. It's not a game in the same way as WoW where the guy with the rarer item or whatever will win - it's a skill game. Think of it more as something like UT2004. There's nothing to earn there so why do you play? Probably to enjoy yourself and improve your skills at the same time.
I suppose it's not a MMORPG in a traditional way. If you want a game where you can watch your character grow etc then GW isn't for you. Even if you're just starting the game you can create a PvP only char that is level 20 instantly but you won't have many skills to use. If you're looking for a sense of progression then maybe join a guild and improve their status. Actually I'd recommend joining a guild because it makes the game 10x more enjoyable.
PvE is still pretty good in itself though. It's nice to just explore - something I never really felt with WoW.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 03:18 Post subject: |
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| dryan wrote: | AnimalMother the point of the level cap is to get everyone on a level playing field for PvP. After that you can still learn better skills which you can use in PvP. It's not a game in the same way as WoW where the guy with the rarer item or whatever will win - it's a skill game. Think of it more as something like UT2004. There's nothing to earn there so why do you play? Probably to enjoy yourself and improve your skills at the same time.
I suppose it's not a MMORPG in a traditional way. If you want a game where you can watch your character grow etc then GW isn't for you. Even if you're just starting the game you can create a PvP only char that is level 20 instantly but you won't have many skills to use. If you're looking for a sense of progression then maybe join a guild and improve their status. Actually I'd recommend joining a guild because it makes the game 10x more enjoyable.
PvE is still pretty good in itself though. It's nice to just explore - something I never really felt with WoW. |
Alot of people play UT2004 to improve their stats, or to win the game in hand, sort a a level to complete if you will.
I suppose if you can improve a guilds status then thats the same thing. Are there areas to control?
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 03:38 Post subject: |
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No but there's a guild ranking thing. I'm not too sure about all that stuff since I've only just tried the PvP stuff tonight and that was just an attempt to get a guild hall.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 06:13 Post subject: |
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I am a little confused, upon creating my first character should I choose RP or Pvp. I tried PvP but got my ass kicked all the time and there wasn't much for me to do. Then I created a new dude and RP and there was towns and stuff. Seemed much better but I still wanna kill dudes when I can. So what are you guys playing and why? Mind you I only tried about 20 minutes last night so maybe I just haven't found stuff I am supposed too.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 07:53 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: |
Look fool, virtually every single fucking game is about progression. You progress through the level, you progress your stats, you get better weapons, you improve your character etc
What is the point in killing people if you get nothing out of it apart from knowing you pissed someone off? Which seems to be what you're against (i.e. ganking). You realise that if people group they will still hunt for lone players to 'gank'.
The we have this shit about paper,scissors,stone mechanic. Ok so what people are going to do it specifically hunt for a player who is weakest against them. When they see someone who can counter them they'll run. What fun is that?
Even something like honour for killing another player, which you can save to get cool privileges and you get more honour for killing someone you're weak against, or someone with more honour then you. It would add a point to PvP. IS there something like that? What is the aim of PvP? |
Progression != Leveling
Progression can be determined in alot of ways, one of which is your own player skill. Which is half the reason people play FPS's where it's the same thing every round (e.g. CS, HL2, UT, ect).
The PvP is very structured, It's not just you running around some god-forsaken PvP 'area' waiting to find someone that you can accaulty beat. There are a number of options, you can play in the Gladiator Arena (get randomly matched with 3 other people, against another team), theres the Tombs of the Prime Evil Kings, (player chosen teams of 8, which starts of with 8v8, and progresses into 8 teams fighting each other) where you get some reward for winning, something guild related, I haven't accaulty bothered to try and win yet, just been playing casually.
There is fame, which you gain from PvP battles (and GvG's?) but I haven't bothered to check what it amounts to yet.
There are also some new options they've added but I haven't explored them yet (i haven't reached them since it got released). Then there's GvG where it gets really serious, which I haven't got to yet, so a more experienced GW player could comment on that.
Oh yeah, you can't specifically hunt for someone weaker than you, except in the most general terms. Elementalists are weaker (armor wise) than most other classes, so they become a common target for warriors, but you have no idea what build they are using, what skills they have, so it can turn out to be a horrible mistake to charge that person (because he/she would have predicted this and taken some really harsh spells against warriors).
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 13:05 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | blahblahblaah |
First you curse and type "fuckin this fuckin that" and now when somone actually hits you back you try to type gramatically correct and real formal to try to appear as "intelligent" and mature as possible. Get A Life.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 14:37 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 15:19 Post subject: |
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I love grinding. I disagree that it says a lot about a person.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 15:32 Post subject: |
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anyone knows how long the preorder key last? i'm playing with that but my copy might be late
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 16:28 Post subject: |
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| Submiqent wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: |
Look fool, virtually every single fucking game is about progression. You progress through the level, you progress your stats, you get better weapons, you improve your character etc
What is the point in killing people if you get nothing out of it apart from knowing you pissed someone off? Which seems to be what you're against (i.e. ganking). You realise that if people group they will still hunt for lone players to 'gank'.
The we have this shit about paper,scissors,stone mechanic. Ok so what people are going to do it specifically hunt for a player who is weakest against them. When they see someone who can counter them they'll run. What fun is that?
Even something like honour for killing another player, which you can save to get cool privileges and you get more honour for killing someone you're weak against, or someone with more honour then you. It would add a point to PvP. IS there something like that? What is the aim of PvP? |
Progression != Leveling
Progression can be determined in alot of ways, one of which is your own player skill. Which is half the reason people play FPS's where it's the same thing every round (e.g. CS, HL2, UT, ect).
The PvP is very structured, It's not just you running around some god-forsaken PvP 'area' waiting to find someone that you can accaulty beat. There are a number of options, you can play in the Gladiator Arena (get randomly matched with 3 other people, against another team), theres the Tombs of the Prime Evil Kings, (player chosen teams of 8, which starts of with 8v8, and progresses into 8 teams fighting each other) where you get some reward for winning, something guild related, I haven't accaulty bothered to try and win yet, just been playing casually.
There is fame, which you gain from PvP battles (and GvG's?) but I haven't bothered to check what it amounts to yet.
There are also some new options they've added but I haven't explored them yet (i haven't reached them since it got released). Then there's GvG where it gets really serious, which I haven't got to yet, so a more experienced GW player could comment on that.
Oh yeah, you can't specifically hunt for someone weaker than you, except in the most general terms. Elementalists are weaker (armor wise) than most other classes, so they become a common target for warriors, but you have no idea what build they are using, what skills they have, so it can turn out to be a horrible mistake to charge that person (because he/she would have predicted this and taken some really harsh spells against warriors). |
Ok thanks for that.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 16:31 Post subject: |
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| Baleur wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: | | blahblahblaah |
First you curse and type "fuckin this fuckin that" and now when somone actually hits you back you try to type gramatically correct and real formal to try to appear as "intelligent" and mature as possible. Get A Life. |
Sorry, thats just how I type anyway. Whether I curse or not has nothing to do with it. But I suppose it's a strain for people like you.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 19:46 Post subject: |
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My uber mini review: Great game, but no replacement for a "real" mmorpg. But rather, a nice addition when bored of playing your current one for the day.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 20:01 Post subject: |
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I think i'll wait for a few more reviews on gamerankings before I make my final decision.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 20:57 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | I think i'll wait for a few more reviews on gamerankings before I make my final decision. |
Well, if you enjoyed Diablo 2 and games like Dungeon Siege, you'll definetly appreciate this. This game is quite a bit like Dungeon Siege. PvE wise, I mean.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 02:02 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | I think i'll wait for a few more reviews on gamerankings before I make my final decision. |
why bother? 98% of the times you wont think like the reviewers anyway, so why let them decide for you?
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 02:15 Post subject: |
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| Baleur wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: | | I think i'll wait for a few more reviews on gamerankings before I make my final decision. |
why bother? 98% of the times you wont think like the reviewers anyway, so why let them decide for you? |
Ya right, I dont need no stinkin review. I decide for myself.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 06:51 Post subject: |
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this game is addictive. for those who dont have this game, you dont know what your missing out on!
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 07:44 Post subject: |
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FUCK now u can purchase it online via ncsoft, and i just ordered it and its prolly gonna come after the weekend, gaaaahhhhhhh and too late to cancel sigh, just to wait.... gah ;(
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 21:31 Post subject: |
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I've been extremely happy with my retail copy. The PvE experience is loads deeper than I though, and we all already know that the PvP is the best around. Plus, no major server fuck ups yet. Even during peak time a day after release (usually the WORST DAY), the worst it got was laggy. No 4-12 hour downtimes like WoW seems to have every few days. All this, and no monthly fee? This game should seriously been seen as the new standard of expectations for MMORPG's.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 21:56 Post subject: |
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| teatrosatanico wrote: | | I've been extremely happy with my retail copy. The PvE experience is loads deeper than I though, and we all already know that the PvP is the best around. Plus, no major server fuck ups yet. Even during peak time a day after release (usually the WORST DAY), the worst it got was laggy. No 4-12 hour downtimes like WoW seems to have every few days. All this, and no monthly fee? This game should seriously been seen as the new standard of expectations for MMORPG's. |
Yeah I thought Blizzards handling of the initial release of WoW in europe was pathetic. Lots of lag and downtime, and considering they already knew what to expect because of the previous US release this was totally unacceptable in my opinion. I still really like blizzard as a developer though.
I was about to get Guild Wars today, but by the time I got my ass to the shop it had closed. 
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 22:02 Post subject: |
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Not as bad as SOE. Taking the server down for maintainence for 8 hours on the American clock on the day of the European release was a complete and utter disgrace.
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| Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005 03:02 Post subject: |
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goto the ncsoft store..
www.ncsoft.com (click store)
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| SirSmokesAlot wrote: | goto the ncsoft store..
www.ncsoft.com (click store) |
I dont see "store" :O!?!? infact, I cant find it anywhere!
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| Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005 05:38 Post subject: |
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| Praetori wrote: | | I love grinding. I disagree that it says a lot about a person. |
Great, you've already got dozens of grinding games available for your pleasure.
It'd be great if someone would make an actually MMORPG for once..
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| Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005 06:34 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | teatrosatanico wrote: | | I've been extremely happy with my retail copy. The PvE experience is loads deeper than I though, and we all already know that the PvP is the best around. Plus, no major server fuck ups yet. Even during peak time a day after release (usually the WORST DAY), the worst it got was laggy. No 4-12 hour downtimes like WoW seems to have every few days. All this, and no monthly fee? This game should seriously been seen as the new standard of expectations for MMORPG's. |
Yeah I thought Blizzards handling of the initial release of WoW in europe was pathetic. Lots of lag and downtime, and considering they already knew what to expect because of the previous US release this was totally unacceptable in my opinion. I still really like blizzard as a developer though.
I was about to get Guild Wars today, but by the time I got my ass to the shop it had closed. |
Blizzies servers are total shit, they have been running them like crap ever since USA launch, , and since a few weeks ago they still run like shit. I expect unscheduled maintence for at least 8 hours each and every patch. I havnt played over the past two weeks because my accounts been canceled since then, but from launch till then its been horrible.
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| Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005 09:57 Post subject: |
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| crossmr wrote: | | Praetori wrote: | | I love grinding. I disagree that it says a lot about a person. |
Great, you've already got dozens of grinding games available for your pleasure.
It'd be great if someone would make an actually MMORPG for once.. |
I was actually joking, but I wanted to see your reply. And I must say you handled it pretty well.
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! I'm not sure how I would deal with this game, it doesnt sound much like a MMORPG, more like a MMOPVPB (player vs player battle 
- Copywritten [sYn]).. I guess it is going to fill the gap for those people who dont like the WoW style of MM game, which is a wonderful thing. I get bored of PVP very quickly, I like having quests, new area's with new NPC's etc.. guess thats what I love about WoW..
