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lol.. so have we figured out if area's are populated by everyone, or just your team yet? I know the way that COH worked was a little crap with seperate instances for every building oly containing your team, i like sharing the killing fun.. although this happens in WOW sometimes, it isnt very often! Like I said in the past, I will probably try this.. but WOW is still getting my cash..
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 11:05 Post subject: |
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Well no, every mission etc etc is instanced, which i love. Oh man its been shipped, i hoooooope it gets here tomorrow  Nice bday present muahahah.
BTW dudes, does anyone else notice this or not; That every game that ncsoft has a hand in (they are just the publishers here but im sure they get a word in
once every now and then), such as Lineage and CoH and this, ALWAYS have really good design, i'm gonna skip CoH and just compare Lineage2 and this.
Look at the weapon and just general art, really cool stuff here, lineage2 has some of the absolutely best and coolest armor/weapon designs of any game to date. I'm not talking about the game itself so dont even think about flaming it.
When i played the GW beta weekends i got soo happy when i saw that it had sorta the same style, the same mature style as lineage2, in the weapons etc but also in the characters.
Not to mention the fights, seems wherever ncsoft has a hand in the fights always become "fast" hard defined swings both in sound and animation, great hard stuff, no "ill swing a little bit but not as hard as i can" crap animation
If there are only 2 games that have true-proportion characters that actually look real, its lineage2 and now GW. Hooray!!
Lol does anyone even know what i mean?
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 14:03 Post subject: |
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Yeah you can create 4 characters.
I'm loving this game - I was up till 6am playing it last night! It's everything that WoW isn't.
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 14:08 Post subject: |
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Baleur yeah you can solo a bit at least up until you enter post-searing which is where I'm at just now. The game really shines when you group up though.
Btw, this game looks a shitload better than wow. Look here
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 14:21 Post subject: |
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| [sYn] wrote: | | dryan wrote: | | It's everything that WoW isn't. |
Which is what? (serious question)
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Nothing in particular - it's just better (imo).
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 17:21 Post subject: |
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I've played in a few of the beta events, and I like Guild Wars a lot. I also played WoW for several months from launch day until March of this year. In comparing the two, i'd note the following observations..
The combat in WoW is a refined version of the traditional mmorpg combat style. You pick your opponent and whack on them, all the while using skills or spells to yield different effects. Movement is limited to staying close/far away to or from your opponent, and slipping behind them for the rogues. Combat is less of a dynamic system and more of a numeric system.
The combat in GW is reminiscent of CoH in that it feels much more fluid and physical. Maneuvering is more inherent to the system, and there isn't a whole lot of standing around.
There are other aspects, such as graphics and design, but I feel like those are things whose quality could vary greatly according to opinion. In short, I think RPG fans will get more out of WoW, while Action-RPG fans (Diablo, etc) will get more out of GW.
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 17:22 Post subject: |
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GW is the most beautiful game since prince of persia, sands of time and MGS 2 substance.
GW and SSM3H are the most beautiful games I've seen.
And as far as gameplay goes, GW has everything I love and need in a game. And yes, I have been playing GW since the first e3 for everyone event, month after month.
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 19:09 Post subject: |
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I just bought the game and I love what I'm seeing so far. The graphics are a bit of Fable and FFXI combined imho. I love the item system, very diablo 3 ish with the unidentifieing and stuff.
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 21:13 Post subject: |
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I'm playing now and have been since the beta after the WPE, and I love it, but just a word to the Wow sympathizers;
The PvE in GW (the roleplaying missions) are only half the game. There is not supposed to be a sense of achievement from leveling to lvl 20. Level 20 is just when the roleplaying stops and the it really begins.
The PvP is this game's selling point, everything is properly balanced so it requires proper player skill. The level 20 cap is to make sure everyone's on a n even playing field. You are also competeting with everyone in the world for the top spots, not just everyone on your shard/realm (Now theres your sense of achievement).
Anyway I love this game and all the WoW fan boys can flame me to death, but I live in peace knowing there is no lvl 60 rogue stealthed somewhere, waiting to stunlock me to death before I can react.
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 23:56 Post subject: |
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The graphics do look pretty fucking mint, I must admit.
But i'm a bit perturbed by such a low level cap, one of the reasons I play RPG's is to feel a sense of progression in my character after an hour or two of playing.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 00:04 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | The graphics do look pretty fucking mint, I must admit.
But i'm a bit perturbed by such a low level cap, one of the reasons I play RPG's is to feel a sense of preogression in my character after an hour or two of playing. |
Sorry dude, I dont think this is your type of game. The only edge you'll have is the one you bring to your character. Theres not PWN you items, or what you want, winning because your higher lvl then the next guy. This is exactly what the developers of the game, DONT want.
If that what you want, play WOW. I hear ganking ppl with less lvls then you is popular over there. Dont forget to CC(corpse camping) thats lots of fun.
Theres still plenty of traditional MMO's for you to get your grind fix. Stay away from the real competitors games. We dont want you bitching and trying to turn it into the same old shit.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 00:15 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | The graphics do look pretty fucking mint, I must admit.
But i'm a bit perturbed by such a low level cap, one of the reasons I play RPG's is to feel a sense of preogression in my character after an hour or two of playing. |
i ALSO had this tought/issue with Guild Wars at first, then i played it, and again, and again, now i bought it and cancelled my WoW account.
Dont get me wrong, i completely adored WoW, until all the kids started to show, lol nah but there is a lot of reasons.
Guild Wars is NOT the type of classic D&D RPG where you level forever, always making your character stronger by a few % every level. It's also not about the weapons, switching away that coolass weapon for a new boring one because the new one has +2 dragonslaying.
Guild Wars IS the type of game where pvp comes first.
It's build up straight from the core to be about who's the best PLAYER, not the best grinder/farmer/luckiest with items etc, the only thing that matters here is getting to lvl 20 to become equal with everyone else, choosing your armor and weapon depending on the situation and of course looks, and then going out to find out who is the better player, you or them, because lets be honest, when you kill an npc, you dont care. When you kill a player and KNOW that you did mentally BETTER than him, you care.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 00:33 Post subject: |
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| TheFreeman wrote: | GW is the most beautiful game since prince of persia, sands of time and MGS 2 substance.
GW and SSM3H are the most beautiful games I've seen.
And as far as gameplay goes, GW has everything I love and need in a game. And yes, I have been playing GW since the first e3 for everyone event, month after month. |
hahahahahaahah
Are you shitting me man? MGS2... POP.... omfg...
I don't know what's graphically more advanced, WoW or GW. I can definitley see that GW has nice graphics, I've played some E3 demo long ago. Personally I like the graphic flavour of WoW better but that's just a personell opinion. I've played WoW, played GW, I think WoW is alot better. I've said it many times and I'll say it again: If this game would have a monthly fee it would be alot less succesfull, (then again, WoW has alot to thank for it's Blizzard tag). Anywyz, alot of people want to try out MMO's they are still pretty new and CCs and paying everymonth scare alot of people off. GW is the perfect oppurtunity for them to see how these games are like.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 00:39 Post subject: |
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| whackazog wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: | The graphics do look pretty fucking mint, I must admit.
But i'm a bit perturbed by such a low level cap, one of the reasons I play RPG's is to feel a sense of preogression in my character after an hour or two of playing. |
Sorry dude, I dont think this is your type of game. The only edge you'll have is the one you bring to your character. Theres not PWN you items, or what you want, winning because your higher lvl then the next guy. This is exactly what the developers of the game, DONT want.
If that what you want, play WOW. I hear ganking ppl with less lvls then you is popular over there. Dont forget to CC(corpse camping) thats lots of fun.
Theres still plenty of traditional MMO's for you to get your grind fix. Stay away from the real competitors games. We dont want you bitching and trying to turn it into the same old shit. |
First off, you've completely misinterpreted my post, you've made assumptions about what type of player I am and you have no fucking clue.
I didn't really enjoy WoW at all.
So tell me, what sense of progression do you get once you're level 20 and have the generic high level items? So you can kill other players, but what will be the point? Anyway i'm sure in a short time the regular strategies will emerge for every type of player, so even noobs will know exactly what to do.
I suppose it's not any worse then alot of other games and considering you don't have to pay any extra fees, it doesn't matter when you get bored of it within the normal time periods.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 00:50 Post subject: |
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Pizda; "Anywyz, alot of people want to try out MMO's they are still pretty new and CCs and paying everymonth scare alot of people off. GW is the perfect oppurtunity for them to see how these games are like."
No, GW is not the perfect opportunity, because GW is an action game, not a standard MMORPG, read my above post.
AnimalMotherwithgreatsigohnoes!!!lolz; Well the devs are supposed to stream-patch the game continously, so any annoyances will be ironed out while u play, not next week or next month, besides the entire game is build upon like a card game. Have you ever played Magic: The Gathering? Kinda like that, every skill and spell is like a card, and it has at least 1 counter, hence no matter how smart you are, there can always be someone out there that is a tad smarter and manages to counter all your important spells/skills.
Check out the skills and spells on http://www.guildwarsguru.com/skill.php
There you can quickly see how many of them are useable as counters.
If someone damages you too much in melee, you can throw an Empathy on them, giving them damage for every hit on you, or another one which makes them miss more, and take dmg when missing.
If someone is giving you problems spell-wise, just use a backfire, giving them part of the dmg every time they use a spell, or simply drain their energy (mana) or anything.
Hundreds of options, no 1 strategy. Get it, accept it, like it or not.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 00:51 Post subject: |
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| whackazog wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: | The graphics do look pretty fucking mint, I must admit.
But i'm a bit perturbed by such a low level cap, one of the reasons I play RPG's is to feel a sense of preogression in my character after an hour or two of playing. |
Sorry dude, I dont think this is your type of game. The only edge you'll have is the one you bring to your character. Theres not PWN you items, or what you want, winning because your higher lvl then the next guy. This is exactly what the developers of the game, DONT want.
If that what you want, play WOW. I hear ganking ppl with less lvls then you is popular over there. Dont forget to CC(corpse camping) thats lots of fun.
Theres still plenty of traditional MMO's for you to get your grind fix. Stay away from the real competitors games. We dont want you bitching and trying to turn it into the same old shit. |
You speak as if you've never played an MMO before. Why do people think ganking only occurs in WoW? It has been going on in enough MMO's long before WoW. It's just part of the genre people who spend more time in a game get to be more powerfull simple as that. I play MMO's coz i love to gank that's right, after playing 2 months hard and being a high level then killing peeps who are 10+ levels lower than you is fucking sweet, I love it. That's why I don't complain when I get ganked and I do get ganked. If I want a game where everyone starts out fair i'll play some fucking shooter.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 00:52 Post subject: |
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First listen to yourself, "progression"? Basically you want to grind. With that, I'll point to the door. Not GW.
I can make assumptions about what type of player you are because that "progression" you talk about is your desire for an advantage. Higher stats, heatlh.. whatever.
GW is made with the idea that everyone will be lvl20, and compete at the same lvl right away. No advantage except what you bring to the table. Your not going to beat someone because you have more time "invested" in your character.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 00:56 Post subject: |
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| Pizda2 wrote: | | whackazog wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: | The graphics do look pretty fucking mint, I must admit.
But i'm a bit perturbed by such a low level cap, one of the reasons I play RPG's is to feel a sense of preogression in my character after an hour or two of playing. |
Sorry dude, I dont think this is your type of game. The only edge you'll have is the one you bring to your character. Theres not PWN you items, or what you want, winning because your higher lvl then the next guy. This is exactly what the developers of the game, DONT want.
If that what you want, play WOW. I hear ganking ppl with less lvls then you is popular over there. Dont forget to CC(corpse camping) thats lots of fun.
Theres still plenty of traditional MMO's for you to get your grind fix. Stay away from the real competitors games. We dont want you bitching and trying to turn it into the same old shit. |
You speak as if you've never played an MMO before. Why do people think ganking only occurs in WoW? It has been going on in enough MMO's long before WoW. It's just part of the genre people who spend more time in a game get to be more powerfull simple as that. I play MMO's coz i love to gank that's right, after playing 2 months hard and being a high level then killing peeps who are 10+ levels lower than you is fucking sweet, I love it. That's why I don't complain when I get ganked and I do get ganked. If I want a game where everyone starts out fair i'll play some fucking shooter. |
Please, WOW is the defacto current example. And since WOW is alot of peoples first MMO, people will get that experience from it, and helps to relate to what will include the most peoples view. I could list a bunch of other games that I've played that follow the same forumal. So what, thats what I'm saying this game isnt about.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 01:04 Post subject: |
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| whackazog wrote: | First listen to yourself, "progression"? Basically you want to grind. With that, I'll point to the door. Not GW.
I can make assumptions about what type of player you are because that "progression" you talk about is your desire for an advantage. Higher stats, heatlh.. whatever.
GW is made with the idea that everyone will be lvl20, and compete at the same lvl right away. No advantage except what you bring to the table. Your not going to beat someone because you have more time "invested" in your character. |
Look fool, virtually every single fucking game is about progression. You progress through the level, you progress your stats, you get better weapons, you improve your character etc
What is the point in killing people if you get nothing out of it apart from knowing you pissed someone off? Which seems to be what you're against (i.e. ganking). You realise that if people group they will still hunt for lone players to 'gank'.
The we have this shit about paper,scissors,stone mechanic. Ok so what people are going to do it specifically hunt for a player who is weakest against them. When they see someone who can counter them they'll run. What fun is that?
Even something like honour for killing another player, which you can save to get cool privileges and you get more honour for killing someone you're weak against, or someone with more honour then you. It would add a point to PvP. IS there something like that? What is the aim of PvP?
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 01:11 Post subject: |
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Shut up you ingant fool, I'm threw wasting text base messages on you.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 01:13 Post subject: |
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| whackazog wrote: |
Shut up you ingant fool, I'm threw wasting text base messages on you. |
Sorry if I destroyed your whole argument, but someone had to do it.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 01:21 Post subject: |
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I'm sorry I pointed out you like grinding, which says alot about a person(loser with alot of time on there hands in there mothers basement). That was just mean of me.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 01:24 Post subject: |
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I like to know how the missions are. Always liked to do missions in MMO games. That's what I mainly do. Been debating on getting this or not.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 01:27 Post subject: |
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| whackazog wrote: |
I'm sorry I pointed out you like grinding, which says alot about a person(loser with alot of time on there hands in there mothers basement). That was just mean of me. |
I know it must be difficult for you to think up your own post structure, but try, otherwise you make it really obvious how limited your intelligence really is.
As I said before, grinding bores me, I don't even play any MMORPG's at the moment so you're completely wrong. But the fact you don't understand that progression can mean something other then grinding shows how limited your understanding of language is beyond MMORPG's.
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! FFXI has some amazing character/level/weapon design in it also. NCsoft do have a good background in the genre but they're not top of the league by any means!
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