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b0se
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I dont care, just want more gameplay vids .
[spoiler][quote="SteamDRM"]i've bought mohw :derp: / FPS of the year! [/quote]
[quote="SteamDRM"][quote="b0se"]BLACK OPS GOTY[/quote]
No.[/quote][/spoiler]
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 02:40 Post subject: |
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| human_steel wrote: | | Laurentiu499 wrote: | | ixigia wrote: | A half naked hot Triss on the cover, they surely know how to advertise their stuff catching the attention of horny gamers  |
half naked? she's naked naked. nude! all that fapping made you blind, stronzo!  |
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He's still mad because I insulted his god Michael Bay  |
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chiv
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 05:49 Post subject: |
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sooo finally at the end of the epilogue... just before the final fight, and im wondering... in the name of the carry-over save game... to kill the grand master or let the king take him?
cant help but think it should matter in the next game, especially with all this 'destiny' crap... because all that shit about giving the king "that which i have but do not expect" (ie the GM's soul), and my big thing throughout all this, is that i dont buy in to all that destiny crap (which i suppose is like pissing into the wind given that its a GAME so naturally everything is preplanned and foretold, but im motherfuckin roleplaying here, dammit...)
so yeah.. hummm... what to do, what to do...
oh, and surprise of all surprises... supported the humans 2 out of 3 times, and was neutral on the third, and i ended up choosing to kill sigfried, but spared yaevinn, purely because of how their respective dialogs went during the the street battle.
fucking funny ol' world, isnt it.
im just glad the elves are far FAR more likable in this game than they are in DA.. otherwise i might be feeling kinda disappointed with myself right now...
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 05:58 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 06:14 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | sooo finally at the end of the epilogue... just before the final fight, and im wondering... in the name of the carry-over save game... to kill the grand master or let the king take him?
cant help but think it should matter in the next game, especially with all this 'destiny' crap... because all that shit about giving the king "that which i have but do not expect" (ie the GM's soul), and my big thing throughout all this, is that i dont buy in to all that destiny crap (which i suppose is like pissing into the wind given that its a GAME so naturally everything is preplanned and foretold, but im motherfuckin roleplaying here, dammit...)
so yeah.. hummm... what to do, what to do...
oh, and surprise of all surprises... supported the humans 2 out of 3 times, and was neutral on the third, and i ended up choosing to kill sigfried, but spared yaevinn, purely because of how their respective dialogs went during the the street battle.
fucking funny ol' world, isnt it.
im just glad the elves are far FAR more likable in this game than they are in DA.. otherwise i might be feeling kinda disappointed with myself right now... |
I finished Witcher as well just now and I supported the humans every time coz I really hate the attitude of Yaeyinn and most of the elves..
I killed the grand master too coz he's like the final boss and the lamest dude ever and I ain't gonna let that stupid king take him after all the hard work I've been through. Can't wait for Witcher 2 now. 
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chiv
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 06:34 Post subject: |
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lamest dude? i dunno, as far as characters go, he had some great development throughout the game, and atleast his PLAN was grand, unlike so many other badguys whos plans were relatively weak and small scale... plus, i can easily see his point of view... guy was tormented by visions and they drove him mad, to the point where he knew what he was doing was right, but at such a terrible cost.
plus, he did fuck with the witchers, and thats a definate no-no.
but i guess it kinda highlights the problem with geralt. he purely lives in the here and now, and he would make the choice to save one person even if it cost a thousand lives down the line... i just cant decide if thats noble or not - is he just shrugging off the responsibility by saying its not his problem? i mean he has brought up the 'greater evil' as a reason to swing one way or the other, so surely he must believe in the greater good too, no?
but in regards to the GM, i just cant help but wonder if he woulda been a nicer guy if id just bought him that damn puppy...
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 06:52 Post subject: |
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| Neon wrote: | | Screen of the artbook that you will find in your collector's edition |
Is that Triss's pussy on the front cover?
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 06:52 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | lamest dude? i dunno, as far as characters go, he had some great development throughout the game, and atleast his PLAN was grand, unlike so many other badguys whos plans were relatively weak and small scale... plus, i can easily see his point of view... guy was tormented by visions and they drove him mad, to the point where he knew what he was doing was right, but at such a terrible cost.
plus, he did fuck with the witchers, and thats a definate no-no.
but i guess it kinda highlights the problem with geralt. he purely lives in the here and now, and he would make the choice to save one person even if it cost a thousand lives down the line... i just cant decide if thats noble or not - is he just shrugging off the responsibility by saying its not his problem? i mean he has brought up the 'greater evil' as a reason to swing one way or the other, so surely he must believe in the greater good too, no?
but in regards to the GM, i just cant help but wonder if he woulda been a nicer guy if id just bought him that damn puppy... |
Oh when I say GM's kinda lame what I mean is I think he's lame because of his visions and how he thinks his crazy plan is awesome and is gonna work etc.. , I don't mean to say he had poor character developments in the game lol.
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chiv
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 06:57 Post subject: |
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well his plan would have worked, and it was a good and necessary plan if he wanted to save temerias people, really..
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chiv
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 07:52 Post subject: |
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meh well finished it.. opted to kill him myself
its odd to see that the game doesnt seem to create a save at the end of it.. no one finds that to be odd? in fact the LAST autosave the game seems to make, is when you meet the grand master before the ice plains sequence.. so technically according to witcher 2, NOTHING that happens after that save, should matter? thats a bit of a letdown isnt it? i guess the game just assumes a single outcome from the ice-plains onwards, and any choices you make (ESPECIALLY your final words to dandelion at the end) are irrelivant.
so i guess your choice of what YOU want to do next as you told it to dandelion, wont be relivant in the next game. sadness - double sadness too, because what i was saying above ie: chosing to kill the GM or let the king take him, is completely irrelivant... i guess interinactive was right.. none of this shit matters. so much for building strong character development into the next game 
anyway, watched the entirety of the closing credits.. i love when games do this.. give you a really great finale, then an awesome bit of music to act as a come-down and continue the emotion of the game... was more than happy to stay and watch all the names scroll past.
theres a dude in it with the name william wang. willie wang. tee-hee 
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chiv
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 08:10 Post subject: |
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i know its not just autosaves that can be used, its just that i get the feeling that IF the player didnt bother to save, the import would rely on the last save CDP thought was relevant... im surprised they didnt see fit to add end-game saving as part of the 1.5 patch or something, im sure by then they knew they wanted to go with save importing for the next game? i mean id like to think that even the last bit of dialog i have with dandelion, about my future, would even matter in the next game.
seems off, but whatever. i made a save JUST before talking to dandelion, so whatever choices actually DO matter for w2, ill atleast have had the maximum influence that cdp allowed me to.
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chiv
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 08:34 Post subject: |
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well that is very disapointing to build such a strong character driven story, with save importing, then have none of it REALLY matter to the overall story... its a pity cdp went in that direction, but what frustrates me even more, is that it was most likely designed that way with those fucking console gamers in mind again, because they will never have the option to import a witcher 1 save.
damn that pisses me off. more concessions made so that console gamers wont feel alienated.. its hard not to take it personally... i mean i have to believe this is the reason why saves wont really matter - i mean i get the impression cdp really cares about the witcher world and the characters - why else wouldnt they want to make choices and character development from the first game matter?
also had a really depressing thought just now... i hadnt thought about it till now.. damn i hope my geralt head doesnt arrive broken in the collectors edition... no way in hell would i be able to just ask for a replacement, because those suckers are all sold out over here, dammit i dont know how id be able to live in geralts ponytail got snapped off... i hope they packaged and protected it well...
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The reasoning that I think was mentioned at that conference when they brought up the save import feature and that it would be a nod to Witcher fans but not having any major consequences was that it's a separate story now (Though as I understood it the game starts of nearly immediately after Witcher 1.) so you might hear and see about some of your consequences from the previous game but they likely don't influence the story in Witcher 2 very much though it would be a bit strange for some of the open questions and unresolved issues to go ignored as well.
(Even if much is restored and resolved during the epilogue chapter in the first game.)
We'll see when the game is out I suppose, should be available for pre-order on GoG on the 10th of May along with a preload, perhaps one can find the missing data manually and get it working early?
(Heh, I doubt it but at least I'm going to pre-order it there as well for further support to Red and to get the DRM free version.)
EDIT: I'd get the CE or such if possible as well for the retail option I had previously pre-ordered but it's extremely expensive and very limited so it's not a option.
(Wasn't that head made of some more fancy and durable material or some such other than used for common sculptures or was it just the limited quantity driving the price up, doubt it's just that though.)
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chiv
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 09:12 Post subject: |
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well i can see their point of view about starting a new story and all, its just that witcher was such a character driven story that focused INCREDIBLY heavily on decision making, and creating a character from a blank slate - ie defining WHO geralt was, rather than any other dime-a-dozen game, that tells YOU who the character is, or what their belief on a matter is.
my stance is that i hate the idea of geralt now kind of becoming the SAME character for everyone who plays it, you know? i mean we spent so much time creating our OWN geralt, but now we're just playing as CDP's geralt. THAT is purely what i find disappointing, given how into MY version of the character I got.... its just gonna suck putting on someone elses pants, you know?
and yeah i know that during the game ill once again be able to sculpt the character, but it just feels like such a disconnect.. like ill be starting again, rather than getting to keep the first games geralt.
for instance, will the game assume that all geralts love triss? will my relationship with triss be 'reset' at the start of the game and she will now treat me as a friend rather than how it was at the end of the first game? will the fact i gave her a ring matter (or will giving her alvin be the only relevant choice)? will my stance on fate - that was so important during the first game - still matter? will my neutrality still matter? to what degree, given that i WASNT neutral 2 out of 3 times? these things concern me more than if NPC "A" remembers that i didnt kill them, or recall that i did event "B"
i think a lot of choices you made in the first game - however minor - are important to the second games development, even if it is a new story.
but i spose all i can do now is just hope it'll be the game ive been wishing for, and that cdp didnt feel like most devs do - that their first game needs to be forgotten, and the new one exists to 'fix' all the problems of the first and retcon the original out of existence *cough*crytek*cough*
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 10:32 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: |
oh, and surprise of all surprises... supported the humans 2 out of 3 times, and was neutral on the third, and i ended up choosing to kill sigfried, but spared yaevinn, purely because of how their respective dialogs went during the the street battle.
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So if I denied the scoia'tel the weapons in chapter 1, helped the humans in the swamp and in the bank, it's still possible to go neutral for me?
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 10:38 Post subject: |
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Yes. You can always go neutral in Chapter IV I think.
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chiv
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 11:20 Post subject: |
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yep from the looks of things the chapter 4 choice is what defines whether you get the neutral path in chapter 5 and epilogue... i was consistently choosing order for all choice, but went neutral in 4 and got the neutral ending.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 15:29 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | lamest dude? i dunno, as far as characters go, he had some great development throughout the game, and atleast his PLAN was grand, unlike so many other badguys whos plans were relatively weak and small scale... plus, i can easily see his point of view... guy was tormented by visions and they drove him mad, to the point where he knew what he was doing was right, but at such a terrible cost.
plus, he did fuck with the witchers, and thats a definate no-no.
but i guess it kinda highlights the problem with geralt. he purely lives in the here and now, and he would make the choice to save one person even if it cost a thousand lives down the line... i just cant decide if thats noble or not - is he just shrugging off the responsibility by saying its not his problem? i mean he has brought up the 'greater evil' as a reason to swing one way or the other, so surely he must believe in the greater good too, no?
but in regards to the GM, i just cant help but wonder if he woulda been a nicer guy if id just bought him that damn puppy... |
You know that...
 Spoiler: | He is Alvin and what he become was influenced by you and that he looked up to you. So basicly you're partly responsible for all of this |
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chiv
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 15:37 Post subject: |
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thats exactly what i mean. maybe i shoulda bought him that puppy he wanted... i told him he couldnt have one, and see what happened..
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chiv
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 15:43 Post subject: |
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yeah but i never gave him candy either.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 15:50 Post subject: |
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All this fucking hype makes me to start Witcher again, I remember that I missed the meeting with that lady from Chapter 2 (or before?) and her damn special wine, prolly the biggest fail.
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chiv
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 15:55 Post subject: |
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oh you mean the bar wench from the outskirts? that was the best lay in the entire game.
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