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dddaaafff




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 03:30    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
Watch this:

Your mind will be blown!!


jajaja, so true
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 04:53    Post subject:
psikobare wrote:
just finished multi

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portal 3 now!



if i remember correctly the portal gun was lost to space at the ending so no more portals?
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 05:36    Post subject:
Game90 wrote:
psikobare wrote:
just finished multi

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portal 3 now!



if i remember correctly the portal gun was lost to space at the ending so no more portals?


One word: Borealis

I don't think there will be a Portal 3. HL and Portal will merge. I'm pretty sure about that.


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djdahren




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 06:29    Post subject:
well, they could make another portal gun. lol, but anyway, i dont think there will be a portal 3 as well...
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 07:50    Post subject:
Game90 wrote:
psikobare wrote:
just finished multi

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portal 3 now!



if i remember correctly the portal gun was lost to space at the ending so no more portals?


There are more than one. For example the co-op robots have one each.


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 07:52    Post subject:
Maybe mr Freeman will have gravity gun and portal gun in episode 3 Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 08:05    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
Game90 wrote:
psikobare wrote:
just finished multi

...


portal 3 now!



if i remember correctly the portal gun was lost to space at the ending so no more portals?


One word: Borealis

I don't think there will be a Portal 3. HL and Portal will merge. I'm pretty sure about that.


Are you kidding? Portal, especially now after part 2, is one of the freshest, most critically acclaimed and I'm sure eventually best selling IPs of the last years. It'll be incredibly stupid for Valve from a business standpoint to not grow the Portal IP individually. Also it'll probably be their most successful IP with console gamers, which is a market they have yet to capture (especially on PS3).

Any plans they had for the two series to converge went out of the window the moment the internet erupted with the Portal 1 memes, and this is why Portal 2 takes place hundreds of years after HL2, or if you read the final hours of portal 2 e-article at least 50000 years later.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 08:10    Post subject:
demde wrote:
Maybe mr Freeman will have gravity gun and portal gun in episode 3 Very Happy


Gabe once said, 5 years ago, before the release of Portal 1, that they were unsure if people could understand how Portals work so before they risk putting the portal gun in HL, they had to make a separate little game, Portal 1, to see if people could understand the concept and enjoy such a game.

That was also when Chell was to be in the next HL, but now she's several years in the future, so I'm pretty sure the concept has been abandoned.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 08:11    Post subject:
How do you people play coop with the Skidrow release? Can anyone teach me?
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 08:46    Post subject:
JRFSkrEEmeR wrote:
How do you people play coop with the Skidrow release? Can anyone teach me?


http://www.tunngle.net/wiki/Network:Portal_2
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 10:55    Post subject:
Game90 wrote:
psikobare wrote:
just finished multi

...


portal 3 now!



if i remember correctly the portal gun was lost to space at the ending so no more portals?


It's not like that was the only portal gun.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 11:08    Post subject:
maul_inc wrote:
chiv wrote:
quick question, its cool to play the skidrow release without worrying about my steam account, yeah?


Just block Portal2.exe in your firewall. I have completed this game (Skidrow version) while logged in on my steam account, without problems, except for having to restart steam after playing, if I wanted to play my legal steam games (for some reason they won't start until I restart Steam after playing the Skiddie version).

well, technically it's possible for the skid version to use steam to do it's communicating for it
safer to leave steam off while playing
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 12:05    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
That was also when Chell was to be in the next HL, but now she's several years in the future, so I'm pretty sure the concept has been abandoned.


The history of Aparture is told in decades, you see the remains of the 60's, 70's and 80's facilities therefore I assume that the current facility is the 90's facility where GLaDOS poisoned all workers and ruled by herself. If Portal 1 takes place in the 1990's and Chell is sleeping for a few decades, Portal 2 should take place around the same timeframe as Half Life 2.

Did I make an error?
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 13:06    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 13:11    Post subject:
Or, Freeman could blast his way through the facility while Chell takes her nap between Portal 1 and 2... after all, at the end of Episode 2, the Apperture Science facility was mentioned as the next destination.
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DCB




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 13:15    Post subject:
No, the Borealis was the destination. It was clearly in some Arctic environment, not the Aperture Science labs. Presumably in the intervening years it warped back there (jumping around - via unstable portals - is what caused the original disaster mentioned in Ep 2).
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 13:22    Post subject:
And in the Portal 2 you have a passage that leads to the empty ship docking station, and a life preserver with Borealis on it. That means Portal 2 happens after the Borealis disappeared...


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thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 13:27    Post subject:
The original "disaster" (i.e. the Borealis disappearing and taking half the dock with it) happened around or before Half-Life 1 from what I understand. Kleiner mentions in Ep 2 that it was Aperture's last desperate attempt to get Black Mesa's government funding, so clearly it must have happened before the world went down the toilet.

I missed the Easter egg in Portal 2 and only heard about it afterwards. I mistakenly thought it was docked back there (hence my comment above about it warping back), but watching a video of it that isn't the case. I guess its ultimate fate is yet to be revealed (Ep3/HL3 one would think).
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 13:32    Post subject:
It uses portals as its primary form of transit I guess, so where you park it is largely irrelevant.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 13:46    Post subject:
garus wrote:
me7 wrote:
consolitis wrote:
That was also when Chell was to be in the next HL, but now she's several years in the future, so I'm pretty sure the concept has been abandoned.


The history of Aparture is told in decades, you see the remains of the 60's, 70's and 80's facilities therefore I assume that the current facility is the 90's facility where GLaDOS poisoned all workers and ruled by herself. If Portal 1 takes place in the 1990's and Chell is sleeping for a few decades, Portal 2 should take place around the same timeframe as Half Life 2.

Did I make an error?


How do you know Portal 1 takes place in 1990?


I don't, that's why I wrote "If Portal 1 takes place in the 1990's...". Valve can just say that Portal 1 took place in the 1990's and link Half Life and Portal together since nothing contradicts it. The only bridge Valve burned is the pre-1990 era, Portal 2 only tells us that Portal 1 took place after the 1980's.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 13:47    Post subject:
A portal so big, your mom could fit in it?
Thats rather amazing!


I hate you.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 13:52    Post subject:
I never really liked Half Life universe. Its full of story holes, empty threads and never explained stuff. Explaining their world in interviews, forum posts and accompanying comics is just wrong. If they wrote accompanying story for Ratman, why not integrate it in the game itself, it could sure use some additional background. I guess they don't want their players to read a single line in their games.

Its presentation, mood and story integration, on other had, is just wonderful.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 14:01    Post subject:
fuckin nerds Smug
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 14:25    Post subject:
Both some computers in Portal 1, as well as some in last part of old facility (when white gel is discovered), look like IBM PS/2 computers, that were common in late 80ties, early 90ties (slim desktop with two floppy drives).


Older facility, when orange gel first time appears), had computers with monitors that looked like those of old PC-XT computers (maybe Apple II used similar ones too?).


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 14:29    Post subject:
dddaaafff wrote:
consolitis wrote:
Watch this:

Your mind will be blown!!


jajaja, so true



yup its good, but you gotta remember that the console version (and also the PC to some extent) but mainly the console version the cubes seem to be attracted to the buttons (kinda like autoaim) to help people out
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 14:40    Post subject:
me7 wrote:
I don't, that's why I wrote "If Portal 1 takes place in the 1990's...". Valve can just say that Portal 1 took place in the 1990's and link Half Life and Portal together since nothing contradicts it. The only bridge Valve burned is the pre-1990 era, Portal 2 only tells us that Portal 1 took place after the 1980's.

According to the Wiki timeline, Portal 1 takes place at or before the time of Half-Life 2 - around 2023 or so. The HL1 incident is presumed to have occurred in May 2003, at which point the Aperture labs were locked down. There's a mention in some of the ARG material about Aperture being stuck using 20 year old equipment, which would explain why some of their gear looks like it was from the 80s and 90s.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 15:00    Post subject:
me7 wrote:
consolitis wrote:
That was also when Chell was to be in the next HL, but now she's several years in the future, so I'm pretty sure the concept has been abandoned.


The history of Aparture is told in decades, you see the remains of the 60's, 70's and 80's facilities therefore I assume that the current facility is the 90's facility where GLaDOS poisoned all workers and ruled by herself. If Portal 1 takes place in the 1990's and Chell is sleeping for a few decades, Portal 2 should take place around the same timeframe as Half Life 2.

Did I make an error?


Official timeline by Portal 2 writer Erik Wolpaw: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2010/03/24/aperture-science_3a00_-a-history.aspx

Quote:
1996 – After a decade spent bringing the disk operating parts of GLaDOS to a state of more or less basic functionality, work begins on the Genetic Lifeform component.

1998 – The untested AI is activated for the first time as one of the planned activities on Aperture’s first annual bring-your-daughter-to-work day. In many ways, the initial test goes well: Within one picosecond of being switched on, GLaDOS becomes self-aware. The "going well" phase lasts for two more picoseconds, at which point GLaDOS takes control of the facility, locks everyone inside, and begins a permanent cycle of testing. Her goal: beat the hated Black Mesa in the race to develop a functioning portal technology. Days later, that race is lost when Black Mesa successfully deploys an interdimensional gate through which an alien race emerges and effectively ends the outside world.


Now there are some issues with this:

1) It suggests that GLaDOS was enabled in 1998, days before Freeman opened a portal to Xen in HL1.. but we know that HL1 takes place in the year 200- from a) the manual of the game b) numerous emails that HL1&2 writer Marc Laidlaw has written to fans.

In fact when asked if now Valve considers HL1 events to have happened in 1998 because of the timeline Wolpaw wrote, Laidlaw insisted that:

Quote:
There's no way it could have taken place in the Nineties, since Gordon didn't start at Black Mesa until sometime in the Noughties!


So this is wrong.

2) Black Mesa had working teleportation tech for quite some time.. Maybe Aperture didn't know it, but BM has been sending scientists to Xen to collect samples and alien life before the HL1 incident happened.

3) Portal 2 itself contradicts Wolpaw because we now know that at the 50s? 60s? they already had portal gun prototypes. That's 50 years before GLaDOS "invented" them.

Thus I would ignore this obviously wrong and outdated timeline.

Now these are updated statements by Wolpaw:

http://kotaku.com/#!5781121

Portal is after Half-Life 1 and before Half-Life 2

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-10-portal-2-how-valve-opened-up-portal-2?page=3

Portal 1, I can state it clearly now, took place place just after the Combine invasion, which was in a sense an apocalyptic event.

So it's like this:
HL1: 200-
Combine invasion: 201- (or 200- but unlikely)
Portal 1: 201- (or 200- but unlikely)
HL2: 202- (Originally: 201- but the timeline has been updated with the release of EP1)
Portal 2: a very long time after HL2, initially conceived as 50000 years later, but later revised to several centuries/an unspecified looong time later.

Also the most recent info is in The Final Hours of Portal 2 where it's stated that Portal 1 takes place in 2010, which fits nicely with the above timeline.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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