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| Dunge wrote: | | Users will never be happy, no matter what. They are kids who get everything for granted. We see that a lot on this very forum. |
So true.
| Smikis. wrote: | | i never got all the hype with portal, and i dont get any hype with portal 2.. run around , from room to room, solving puzzles, never been puzzle guy, but how can this be so hyped and praised? not saying its bad game, just that it holds no real appeal to me |
Yeah, me too. It was nice for the two hours it lasted but there are other puzzle games which I enjoyed much more.
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xDBS
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 20:01 Post subject: |
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Or the "reviews" are just plain bullshit. Like this one:
| Quote: | | I'll keep this short as possible. Very short campaign, around 3 hours of playtime, unless there's something seriously wrong with your hand-eye coordination. Seems like about 25% of the game is DLC only. Disappointing ending that only adds to the fact that this is a quick cash in. For $15 I wouldn't have a problem with portal 2, but $50 for this? Valve are you serious? If this is the direction you are going then I do not want to know what will happen with EP3. Just sell the right to another developer who can do their job and do it right. |
WTF is he talking about? It's not possible to finish the game in three hours. Another moron that went by the broke ass Steam timer instead of looking at a fucking clock. 25% of the game is DLC? Huh? The only DLC for now is the lame stuff in the co-op store that adds absolutely *NOTHING* to the game other than aesthetics.
Or this gem:
| Quote: | | Do not listen to anyone who says the campaign is longer then 3-4 useless hours. Only a retard takes that long to actually complete this game. The game is not challenging and compared to TF2 only has a minimal number of hats available. Do not listen to these 10/10 rating people. They are trolls coming from a site called Ebaumsworld. Valve has paid them with potatoes to give this game a high score. Do not fall for the tricks. |
| Quote: | | I am very upset about how short the game is, I took me just 3 hours too finish the game, I'm working on co-op now and I've been going about 1 hour and it feels like it is about too be over.. Now on too the worst part, THE DLC, yes their is day 1 DLC that will cost you upwards of 90$ if you but it all, THIS IS TERRIBLE and displeases me a great deal, why would you do this too us? |
Most the negative reviews I read are either complaining about it's only 3 hours long (bullshit) or the day 1 DLC (which is irrelevant to the game). And there are some duplicated negatives too.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 20:06 Post subject: |
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They're the same people that call this game a console port on the forums.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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ClaudeFTW
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 20:22 Post subject: |
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| Smikis. wrote: | | i never got all the hype with portal, and i dont get any hype with portal 2.. run around , from room to room, solving puzzles, never been puzzle guy, but how can this be so hyped and praised? not saying its bad game, just that it holds no real appeal to me |
Depends on one's taste, to be honest. I found myself needing to pause the game so I could laugh, and I was clapping like a retard during the ending cinematic.
Related to the negative reviews, they're just plain retarded. It took me somewhere around 7 hours and I like to believe I wasn't stuck in any room, I mean, sure, some of them are a little hard, but they're easy to pass, once you get the gist of the game's physics and mechanics. Retards, retards everywhere.
ALSO, why the shit are people complaining about the 60 bucks price tag? I have yet to find a digital platform selling it for that much. Also, there are like, 3 retailers in RO, but I'm willing to bet not one of them has it priced at no more than 40 euros(retail prices are standard here, prices are converted from euros to RON).
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 20:23 Post subject: |
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| dodger2020 wrote: |
Or the "reviews" are just plain bullshit. |
Pretty much. Looks like people complain about the ARG instead of the game. Or they are trolling. Examples:
| Quote: | | There is some obvious hate spam going on in here, and rightfully so because the game BLOWS. So you can pretty much ignore any review over a 5. But the truth is for all the people who broke their ass doing the Potato Sack challenge only for the game to be half as long as we were told and have $90 DLC on launch, I can't even begin to reiterate that this is the first game I would give a NEGATIVE score if possible. What an absolute JOKE. |
| Quote: | | Aggressive PR and aggressive ARG. I loved Valve, long ago. I'm not going to play, I do not need the game of potato sack, which they are imposed, all the media only talked about it. |
| Quote: | | I payed 34 EUR. Played 1 day. My friend got it for free with all full complete valve pack for buying potato sack? That's just not fair. Bad game I will never pre-purchase Valves games. Maybe will never buy them. Good job VALVe! Thanks for nothing! |
| Quote: | | Just another overpriced Doom clone with day 1 DLC that is 100% necessary to get any sort of decent experience out of it, considering its 5 hours of singleplayer (who even does multiplayer any more?) When will devs start getting original? |
| Quote: | | The co-op robots clearly rip off of Mario and Luigi. When will PC gamers stop ripping off of the purity of console games? Since this game isn't coming out for Wii there's no way I'm playing it. |
I wouldn't be surprised if 4chan is behind this:
Do not support a company that releases day 1 DLC, a console port to the PC, a ridiculous money-grubbing viral marketing campaign, and a 5 hour game for $50. We are /v/. We are legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 20:26 Post subject: |
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Fuck 4chan. Never satisfied with anything.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 20:28 Post subject: |
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We are /12 yr old/. We are legion. We... 
The main advantage of Portal is the story followed by glados's comments. That won me over 
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 20:33 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | I wouldn't be surprised if 4chan is behind this:
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TBH, that "it's 4chan" is getting old. It was the first thing people said when DA2 got negative reviews on metacritic as well. I have not played Portal 2 and do not intend to. If people quote messages from the PC version like "turn down your console" or that the game is only six or seven hours long I get a déjà-vu as those are the same arguments that most games nowadays have to face, and many of them rightfully so.
I, personally, would never buy a game full price that is less than 15 hours long, and IIRC have never done so.
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ClaudeFTW
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 20:36 Post subject: |
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Maybe it's not 4chan, but those are obvious trolls.
And all that "please don't turn off your console" aside, the game is simply amazing, FOR PUZZLE FANS.
Grab the .iso demo and see for yourself. Enjoying it? Buy it. Don't like it? Keep arguing it's shit, I suppose.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 20:37 Post subject: |
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@OLime: We know this already, it's not like you liked any of Valve's games, or you would buy any game that uses the Steam client, so.. 
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 20:42 Post subject: |
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Just finished the singleplayer campaign and I'll just keep it short: it was fucking brilliant. Can't wait to play the co-op campaign too. I would buy it if I had some money, besides the ones I'm keeping for the Premium Edition of TW2, maybe (yeah, seems like I might buy it after all, considering I gather all the money I need, hope so).
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 20:46 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | @OLime: We know this already, it's not like you liked any of Valve's games, or you would buy any game that uses the Steam client, so.. |
Eh, what does that have to do with my posting? I downloaded Portal when it was free back then, to see what the fuzz is all about. It was fine, like I said.
So, you might think I am a hater. About you, we know, that you create a post for every fart Gabe lets out, sometimes even create topics about even the tiniest piece of news. Is your opinion worth less than mine or anybody else's? No. Does it make a difference for me to read how an über-fanboy like yourself thinks about [enter random Valve game] compared to what somebody else says? Yes.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 20:56 Post subject: |
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| OLime wrote: | TBH, that "it's 4chan" is getting old. It was the first thing people said when DA2 got negative reviews on metacritic as well. I have not played Portal 2 and do not intend to. If people quote messages from the PC version like "turn down your console" or that the game is only six or seven hours long I get a déjà-vu as those are the same arguments that most games nowadays have to face, and many of them rightfully so.
I, personally, would never buy a game full price that is less than 15 hours long, and IIRC have never done so. |
So that rules out 95% of all games, or do you count cutscenes into that? In that case, a piece of shit like ME2 might just make it onto your list. Clearly the best way to judge a game's worth.
6 hours is still longer than most AAA titles we get nowadays, and that's with you and every retard writing 2/10 reviews completely ignoring the second half of the game (co-op) and the free extended gameplay we'll get in the form of community maps (on the PC anyway). Valve has provided 12+ hours of gameplay themselves, and I expect to easily get the same amount out of it from community maps and/or DLC (which I expect will be free on the PC).
Note: the cosmetic bullshit I don't count as DLC; that's cosmetics, not gameplay.
I for one couldn't sit through Crysis 2 or ME2; the former because it had absolutely nothing interesting gameplay or story-wise, and the latter just lacked gameplay to begin with (far too much time spent in cutscenes/dialogue with the latter having much less impact than before). Are either of those worth the full price? According to many, they are. For me they're not, because while they can last long enough, that time spent feels wasted because the games themselves are so shit. Mafia 2 is another fantastic example of a AAA title that's hugely popular, well received and all things considered, it barely offers you an hour of gameplay once you've counted away the "drive from A to B as boringly as possible" and cutscenes.
Obviously, this is a genre that has to appeal to you. If it doesn't, fine, you won't like it - doesn't mean it's a bad game. If it does, you'll love the game and get 6+ hours of quality gameplay on your own, then at least that amount in co-op, and then some.
Edit: there's a difference between DA2's or Crysis 2's console porting and this one, just for the record. In this case it's a *single* string from the localisation files which are most likely shared between platforms with a platform-specific override, and that one was missed.
In DA2 and Crysis 2 the whole fucking games were tuned to the consoles, from control schemes to textures, to sounds to goddamn options. That's not the case here, simple as that. A FoV option isn't there because they didn't think their audience would want it and thus it's only accessible through the console, and to be fair, they were right. Those threads are nowhere near big enough to think that even 20% of their userbase really misses that option.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 21:02 Post subject: |
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Anyway, finished it. Like the story, but the game itself could have been more challenging. Really good game, really good story, quality through and through, but I somehow still don't feel that attached. Anyway, I hope some community maps bring on some real challenge!
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 21:05 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: |
So that rules out 95% of all games, or do you count cutscenes into that? In that case, a piece of shit like ME2 might just make it onto your list. Clearly the best way to judge a game's worth.
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Tell me then, why people here and elsewhere cry abput DA2 being half as long as DA:O when it still contains more than 30 hours of gameplay? Maybe it's because the length of the game is not the only, but it is one factor. People are complaining about CoD and other games nowadays being six hours long, and with no replay value. But if it comes from Valve it's ok?
| Quote: | | ...you and every retard writing 2/10 reviews completely ignoring the second half of the game (co-op) |
If you wan to imply I wrote anything about Portal 2 then you are wrong. I do not judge aboput games I did not play, unlike many people here. And concerning co-op you have to admit that this is not for everybody. So if you are only interested in SP then the game might be six or seven hours long. It's like saying "Sure, Homefront is over after 5 hours, but the MP mode..." Know what I mean?
So, once more: I do not care about Portal 2, and I do not judge it until I played it myself. To each his own. Crying aboput 4chan invading metacritic, however, while saying that all these same kids were right to downgrade other games like most recently DA2 is weak.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 21:06 Post subject: |
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There's a lot of that explained in the commentary mode Radicalus, they had to make a lot of stuff simpler and immediately recognizable and such to avoid confusing and making the playtesters they had going into all sorts of issues and problems.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 21:09 Post subject: |
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| OLime wrote: | | consolitis wrote: | | @OLime: We know this already, it's not like you liked any of Valve's games, or you would buy any game that uses the Steam client, so.. |
Eh, what does that have to do with my posting? I downloaded Portal when it was free back then, to see what the fuzz is all about. It was fine, like I said.
So, you might think I am a hater. About you, we know, that you create a post for every fart Gabe lets out, sometimes even create topics about even the tiniest piece of news. Is your opinion worth less than mine or anybody else's? No. Does it make a difference for me to read how an über-fanboy like yourself thinks about [enter random Valve game] compared to what somebody else says? Yes. |
Nice try but no, I post small news for other companies too. For example did you miss this? http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68304
Lulz.
My point is that, um.. here's you:
| Quote: | | What exactly did Valve release since Steam? HL 2 (which is an overhyped pile of suckage) and two (!) shoddy addons, Portal (which is a clone of a game where Valve bought the developers), TF2 (where Valve simply bought the devs), CSSource (where Valve... I am starting to see a pattern here), DoD Source (you know the deal...), L4D 1&2 (which are a clone of Killing Floor (yes, KF is older, look it up))... so, what did Valve give us except old games on an old engine? |
So it begs the question.. knowing your beliefs about the company and the NON-quality of their games why did you come in this thread? Don't expect me to believe you are here to converse when you have bent logic and reason into impossible shapes in the past to justify your hatred for Valve:
My point is that Valve basically developed not a single game ever since HL2.2. All they did was buy (mod) developers, convert an already existing game into Source (thus my mentioning the sequels asnone of the original games like TF, CS and others were developed by Valve), and publish it.
Please. 
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 21:09 Post subject: |
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How does the co-op work in SKIDROW's copy? The main story campaign i.e.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 21:17 Post subject: |
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OLime, there's a reason not many people think like you.
Hint: It's because it's not true.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 21:21 Post subject: |
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@consolitits:
I am referring to this http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66664&highlight= or this http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67286&highlight= or dozens of tohers, often with double, triple, quadruple posts form you, sometimes in topics that are long dead and nobody aside from yourself reads anymore. But, lo and behold, there was some update or newsbit, so it has to be posted, because it was from God, er Gabe.
What you cited there is bent logic only through roe tinted glasses; to others it is just my opinion. I hereby congratulate Valve on Portal 2 as their first "true" game since HL2  .
@dezztroy:
I prefer to build my own opinion, not take the one of "many people".
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Werelds
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 21:27 Post subject: |
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| OLime wrote: | | Tell me then, why people here and elsewhere cry abput DA2 being half as long as DA:O when it still contains more than 30 hours of gameplay? Maybe it's because the length of the game is not the only, but it is one factor. People are complaining about CoD and other games nowadays being six hours long, and with no replay value. But if it comes from Valve it's ok? |
No, but in this case you get something DA:O or DA2 didn't have either: loads of community added content. And looking at what people came up with for the original game, there's gonna be absolutely shitloads of it and very well made as well. That alone extends the game's life tremendously. Unlike every other company out there, Valve still comes out with the SDK's, fully supports them and as a result I *think* it's safe to say that they have the strongest modding community. And yes, they have hired some (mod) developers, but why does that speak against them? If anything, that speaks for them, as they are able to recognise a good concept and hire them to enable to make a fully fledged game out of it (keyword being HIRE - not stealing the idea, but HIRING the people). The people behind Narbacular drop sure as hell aren't angry about it, they got recognition for their skills and a good job out of it, I can tell you that.
| OLime wrote: | | If you wan to imply I wrote anything about Portal 2 then you are wrong. I do not judge aboput games I did not play, unlike many people here. And concerning co-op you have to admit that this is not for everybody. So if you are only interested in SP then the game might be six or seven hours long. It's like saying "Sure, Homefront is over after 5 hours, but the MP mode..." Know what I mean? |
I hear what you're saying (although Homefront was 3 hours, not 5 ), but again, it's about quality as well, not just quantity. Homefront itself wasn't even mediocre as a shooter, it was pretty appalling. The story had a lot of potential, sound was decent, but the actual game was pretty terrible. And that went on into the MP, terrible there as well. That's not the case here. The effort that has gone into the game shows everywhere, and regardless of whether it's a game for you or not, it is just well-made, period. There are plenty of games which I don't like, but I can still acknowledge their quality. Sports games are not my thing, but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate the effort gone into (some of) them.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 21:30 Post subject: |
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| OLime wrote: | @dezztroy:
I prefer to build my own opinion, not take the one of "many people". |
That's not much better if you own opinion is based on ignorance.
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vaifan1986
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Sorry to interrupt these high level talks about...something,
but I can't for the love of jeebus fix a crash at startup.
It's the same error over and over and I've already reinstalled the game, as well as new drivers for everything I could think of, It's also a 2 week old Win7 installation.
The error is shaderapidx9.dll, or correctly, it's the cause for the crash. It's a file in the game folder.
And I've been googling and so far, none of the solutions have helped. Was hoping hump wisdom would prevail.
Cheers.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 21:35 Post subject: |
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| vaifan1986 wrote: | Sorry to interrupt these high level talks about...something,
but I can't for the love of jeebus fix a crash at startup.
It's the same error over and over and I've already reinstalled the game, as well as new drivers for everything I could think of, It's also a 2 week old Win7 installation.
The error is shaderapidx9.dll, or correctly, it's the cause for the crash. It's a file in the game folder.
And I've been googling and so far, none of the solutions have helped. Was hoping hump wisdom would prevail.
Cheers. |
Have you installed http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=2DA43D38-DB71-4C1B-BC6A-9B6652CD92A3&displaylang=en
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TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 21:36 Post subject: |
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anyone getting a random crash/close (no error what so ever) that happens about every hour in skidrow release?
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2011 21:39 Post subject: |
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FUCKIN AWESOME GAME! OH MY GOD TOO MUCH FUN I CANT HANDLE IT
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