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 Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2011 21:57 Post subject: |
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Are you guys talking about the Steam version of Oddboxx ? If so, I don't understand the complains about Oddysee and Exoddus. Those 2 games were available on Steam since ages and AFAIK nothing was changed in them since Oddboxx's release.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Jan 2011 16:24 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | Hfric wrote: | | why would i need to track that exe WHEN I HAVE WROTE that my original store bought version does not have this issue and it works perfectly on win7... |
Because you didn't say so. From what you said I guessed that you last played the game when you were running win98 or something.
| Quote: | so i fuck this re-release and replay my original cds , and tell me what developer idiot would have put a exe that outputs all videos in 320x240  |
According to that warez release, it's a problem the retail version has. Why you don't have it, idk.. |
Ok so I found out what's going on.
The warez release I'm talking about has a readme.txt with the following text:
| Quote: | Custom made 
This executable fixes the pixelated movies problem if you copied the files from CDs to the game folder in order to play without the CD.
Replace the original Exoddus.exe from your Abe's Exoddus install dir with this one. Smart people backup first. |
So it's obvious what's going on.
- The original retail release plays the movies just fine from the CD, as correctly you claimed.
- That is as long as you don't manually copy the files from the CD to the install folder, in order to play without it; because if you do so it plays them pixelated.
- The Oddboxx release is effectively the same old retail release, copy pasted from the CDs to the hard drive. But because of this the exe cannot play the movies properly as I described above.. hence why you need the exe that fixes this problem.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Jan 2011 21:43 Post subject: |
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SO WHY DIDN'T THEY ADDED THIS EXE IF THEY KNEW ABOUT THIS PROBLEM 
plain and simple they way to ficking lazy to do it
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Jan 2011 18:47 Post subject: |
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Good news, several issues with Stranger have been fixed/are being fixed internally.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=415067&page=23
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1. We have fixed the nvidia issue in first person mode.
2. We have HUGELY increased performance, a tester who had the game running at only 20fps in 800x600 mode is now running at around 60fps in 1920x1050 res.
3. We have also moved/altered the way saved games work. We forgot about the "permissions" issues with the "Program Files" folder in Vista/Win7, as a result we have moved saved games to "C:\users\USERNAME\appdata\Roaming\Oddworld\Strang er's Wrath\".
Other alterations that are WIP ...
a) Native resolutions available to the player will be made available (IE what can your card do)
b) Removing the joypad auto-detect from the game itself, and allowing players to chose which control system via the launcher.
c) Updated Keyboard UI screen.
d) Audio glitch in opening moving, being looked at. (Actual movie is glitched).
e) Fix achievements.
f) Customisable controls. |
| Quote: | Done:
1. Rendering performance:
This has been taken care of, we literally found 2 small steps in the rendering pipeline that were gimped. We were using an OpenGL extension that isn't fully ratified as a result on most machines it isn't supported in hardware, so defaults to doing the same process in software (= SLLLOOOOOOOWWWWW), this gave us a jump from ~20fps to ~45fps on my 4 year old DELL nvidia 8400 laptop. Then we discovered we were actually doing the final draw to screen TWICE (yes dumb mistake) but that then gave me an increase from ~45fps to ~60fps on my laptop again. So yeah right now I'm pretty happy with the performance now.
But we're still looking at some memory usage speedups too, as there is a couple of little bottle necks.
2. Save Games:
In Vista/Win7 the "Program Files" folder usage permissions changed, we WERE saving save games to the install folder, this caused problems, as a result we're now using the users "roaming" folder, which resolves this issue.
3. We have REMOVED (as HP mentioned) the joypad auto-detect. Now you need to chose your input device of choice via the launcher app.
4. First Person mode = broken on nvidia chipsets, this is now fixed. To get this to break you need the latest nVidia drivers, which were released in Early December, you'll have to forgive us there as we last updated internally in November so didn't see the issue until everyone said "hey assholes, this shit is broken!". Anyway it's fixed.
Being Done:
1. Screen Resolutions:
We are going to "quiz" the machine and say "What resolutions can you run at" and offer those options to the user in the Launcher App. No more "Low", "Medium" and "retarded". We will also be looking at PROPER widescreen modes, not just stretched.
2. Controls:
So you guys want to be able to set your own keyboard/joypad config... Ouch. The hardest part of doing that is NOT the actual input itself, but making sure any onscreen messages that cover input display the correct key, EVEN if you change it. Right now the language files have fixed tokens for the buttons/keys; but we will get to this.
3. Fixing a couple of broken achievements, and adding some more for fun 
4. Audio problems - As most of you know it's hard to fix something if you can't repeat it, and so far the ONLY audio glitch we've managed to repeat is in the intro movie, and as it happens that glitch is ACTUALLY in the movie itself.
If anyone has any REPEATABLE audio bugs (IE audio stopping or corrupted sounds) can you email them to us at info AT jawltd.com
5. Crashes - This is a tricky one, as the only crash we've repeated is the exit one. So for those that are having crashs in Stranger, again, please email us full details, and if possible, if you have a save game from just before the crash that would be helpful too, send them again, to the usual address of info AT jawltd.com
ATI Users:
Ok so people are seeing "corruption", "little black boxes", "stuff not animating", "characters in t-position" etc.
You may also have seen via the thread over on the Steam forums that these issues come and come with different ATI Drivers.
The ONLY problem that exists with the latest ATI drivers is the "corruption" or "little black boxes"... These are related to transparencies. We know this as we've looked into it pretty hard and the areas in the game this issue is, is when alpha blending etc is used.
Firstly we looked at our shader code, which works on other OpenGL cards, but that was fine, then I thought I'd play one of Mr Carmacks games, so I fired up Quake3, which I still play, on the new machine I bought at xmas with an ATI 5470 chipset and as it turns out, anything with an id shader in it, that uses transparencies is just BLACK.
So I fired an email to an old friend of mine who works at AMD now, who used to work at nvidia, and before that used to work at 3dLabs (remember those guys), Richard is part of their driver/developer support team; he's put me onto one of their guys in the driver team itself and they now have the game, and have told us ...
"We were able to repro the issue and are now going to look at what maybe the cause..."
So ATI are aware of the issue, and either they'll come back and say "actually you've not initialised this correctly" OR "oops our driver is broken we'll fix it."
So as we stand right now, performance is fixed on all cards, nVidia has the first person mode fixed, and ATI still has issues with transparencies. |
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With regards to Munch, as I think you know we did NOT write PC Munch, merely inherited it in November. We've assembled a small team here to work on 3 updates to Munch during January. Whilst I'm not going to go into detail about these updates yet, as we're just finalising those lists now, our aim in short is to fix it, and by "it" I mean munch in general. |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Jan 2011 21:16 Post subject: |
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It's nice that they're forward and fixing it and all that but I wonder how they got into this mess anyhow and how they managed to get the rights and all that to do this project from the main company/developers seeing this mess and their previous "pc" experiences and projects.
Still they're working on it and will hopefully keep working on it and fix it fully but we'll see.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Jan 2011 21:26 Post subject: |
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1920x1050? 
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Jan 2011 22:11 Post subject: |
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| JBeckman wrote: | It's nice that they're forward and fixing it and all that but I wonder how they got into this mess anyhow and how they managed to get the rights and all that to do this project from the main company/developers seeing this mess and their previous "pc" experiences and projects.
Still they're working on it and will hopefully keep working on it and fix it fully but we'll see. |
They've also got the rights to make new Oddworld games and they want to quickly finish patching The Oddboxx and after that release PS3 Stranger's Wrath to put all their resources on the new projects.
| Quote: | | We have NEW Oddworld projects to start in February that mean the team on PC Stranger do need to be finished with updates in January, so whilst this might not be the best news, please be aware that it IS something we've thought long and hard about, and it is something that, touch wood, will be fixed with the HD update later. |
| Quote: | | From next week we're looking for talented peeps all positions. If you'd like to work in the new Oddworld game drop us a line jobs@jawltd.com |
And actually.. JAW's CEO sooooooort of hinted (maybe I'm reaching >_>) that the new games might be remakes of the first 2 Abe games.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25065178&postcount=1059
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Jan 2011 23:34 Post subject: |
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He's the business guy now, stop asking him difficult questions! 
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Jan 2011 23:41 Post subject: |
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Some info on what updates Munch will see: http://www.oddworld.com/?p=360#more-360
| Quote: | Munch’s Oddysee:
We will be releasing 3 separate updates for Munch; this is mainly due to the amount of issues and bugs that we have to fix.
PC Update 1
• Fix crash issues
• Fix sound issues
• Broken achievement fixes
PC Update 2
• Fix PC keyboard controls
• Add more Achievements
• Joypad support improvements
• ‘Superfast’ / ‘Superslow’ mode fix
• Fix Shadows.
• Multiple resolution + widescreen support with windows launcher
• Config menu fixes
PC Update 3
• Localisation support |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jan 2011 00:02 Post subject: |
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new sw patch out, massively improves it. i can confirm its playable now :]
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jan 2011 00:12 Post subject: |
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changelog:
| Quote: | (C) Oddworld Inhabitants, Inc. 2005, 2010-2011
(C) Just Add water (Developments), Ltd. 2011
Stranger's Wrath PC - v1.1
Changelist
Fixes
1. Fixed performance issues.
2. Fixed save game permissions issues. Save games and config file are now saved in "Program Files" to "\Documents\Oddworld\Stranger's Wrath".
3. Fixed controls "sticking" issues.
4. Fixed tutorial text - Camera mode switch button text.
5. Fixed turorial text - Camera reset button text.
7. Fixed broken achievement "Mine your business".
8. Fixed incorrect texts being displayed in controls Layout screens.
9. Fixed 5.1 and 7.1 audio.
10. Fixed Mouse lag.
11. Fixed issue with only 1 of 3 dialogue lines working in Jail house.
12. Fixed first person view on nVidia boards.
Changes
1. Added screen resolution selection to launcher.
2. Added v-sync option to launcher.
3. Added joystick selection to launcher.
4. Added customisable controls (See below).
5. Added support for third party "generic" joypads.
6. Added widescreen suppport.
7. Re-authored Keyboard "layout" screen in options.
8. Removed automatic joypad detection.
Customisable Controls
Inside the config.txt file (located in Documents\Oddworld\Stranger's Wrath) contains various pieces of configuration for Stranger's Wrath.
To alter the controls, change the contents of the " " after each command name...
E.G.
pause="ESCAPE" (Default)
pause="P" |
Also the HD asset update along with the new UI system and what other improvements will be made to the PSN version will be released in the summer: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25542304&postcount=1244
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Jan 2011 23:36 Post subject: |
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25579493&postcount=1326
| Quote: | Apparently the Oddboxx was originally announced in 2009, for release Xmas 2009.
We didn't start working with OWI until 2010, and it was to fix, what 2 other developers could not do back in 2009.
So whilst you say it was quick money make for the PS3 version, not so, we'd already planned and licensed the game for the PS3 version, OWI came to us after we started PS3 and asked if we could do the PC version for them to help them. |
LOL. Apparently OWI went to the worst of the worst developers to port the games as cheaply as possible.. and the devs they chose were so incompetent that they couldn't even make it work until JAW came and well.. they released their barely working port of Stranger (though it's mostly fixed now).
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Jan 2011 00:21 Post subject: |
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classy. jaw dropped the ball bad on release for this (felt like a lot of excuses for poor qa at the end of the day). it took them far too long to release a patch, but you know what? they did. speaks miles, specially since the game is playable now as well as guaranteed hd assets when they're done.
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2011 03:30 Post subject: |
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On March 7: http://www.oddworld.com/?p=492
- The collection will be available on other DD services as well instead of being Steam exclusive
- 50% off for a week
- a patch with the following fixes:
| Quote: | Munch’s Oddysee:
* Additional achievements: A Bittersweet Reunion, Not Mine, Archers at Dawn, A Peaceful Death, Riding High, Zen, Wheelie Selfish, We’re Freeeee, Demonic.
* Improved controls and complete control customizability.
* Fixed all major bugs and issues, including joypad and sound device errors.
* Added launcher with multiple resolution and anti-aliasing support.
* Added dynamic shadowing.
* Added widescreen modes.
Stranger’s Wrath:
* Added Xbox 360 controller support.
* Fully customizable controls, including 3rd party control pad support.
* Added support for devices with more than 6 audio channels.
* Added launcher with multiple resolution and anti-aliasing support.
* Added widescreen modes. |
In the press release they also mention that Stranger's Wrath will be updated yet again later on when the PSN version is ready with "upgraded models, lighting, UI features and a few surprises still to come."
So now it's official that the PC version will receive the PSN improvements they are preparing.
For a company that proved they know shit about PC games and what PC gamers want, they're actually listening to the feedback, learning and correcting their mistakes.. bravo!
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Mar 2011 23:50 Post subject: |
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how patching continous ???
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Ashok0
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Mar 2011 01:38 Post subject: |
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I bought this POS on Steam and it STILL doesnt even work. When I try to play it it just freezes at the "Way of the Hunter" title screen.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Mar 2011 01:43 Post subject: |
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| Ashok0 wrote: | | I bought this POS on Steam and it STILL doesnt even work. When I try to play it it just freezes at the "Way of the Hunter" title screen. |
tried verifying integrity? could be something like that?
e/ i stand corrected, try this:
| Quote: | | I had the same problem. I believe I fixed it by going into the Nvidia Control Panel, finding Stranger's Wrath on the 'Manage 3D Settings' list and setting 'Threaded Optimization' to off. |
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Ashok0
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Mar 2011 04:05 Post subject: |
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Wow thanks Mike-, that actually WORKED.
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Mar 2011 18:54 Post subject: |
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Oddworld.The.Oddboxx.Update.3-SKIDROW
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2011 16:34 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | In the press release they also mention that Stranger's Wrath will be updated yet again later on when the PSN version is ready with "upgraded models, lighting, UI features and a few surprises still to come."
So now it's official that the PC version will receive the PSN improvements they are preparing. |
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-04-29-oddworld-munchs-oddysee-hd-announced
Unfortunately the PSN version, set to be released this week, has been delayed to October because they decided to give the remastering treatment to Munch's Oddysee as well and release them together.
Also they plan to release the whole Oddboxx collection on PS3 (and 360 if MS agrees).
I wonder if the improvements Munch's Oddysee will receive will be applied to the PC version as well, similarly to what they promised to do with Stranger's Wrath.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Apr 2011 17:51 Post subject: |
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PSN is down ... so they decided to remaster another game ... ok fine by me
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 21:34 Post subject: |
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Oddworld.The.Oddboxx.Update.4-SKIDROW
| Quote: | - Achievements: "Brewer's Yeesh", "All Fueled Up", "Annoying Boils", "Lulu will be pleased", "Reserved Row", "Not Mine", "Archers at Dawn", "A peaceful death" now unlock!
- All known game crashes (at Raisin's Cave, Sloghut 1027 and Splinterz Manufacturing!)
- An issue with almost NO sound!
- New Achievements added!
- Moolah sound now cuts up correctly!
- Added launcher with resolution options/Antialiasing/Widescreen Support
- Messing with new Launcher fixed the bug with hanging at loading screen |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 23:19 Post subject: |
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Stranger's Wrath PS3 screenshots. As a reminder the PC version should get updated with the new textures, models and menus/UI of the PS3 version after it releases.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Sep 2011 22:00 Post subject: |
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Stranger's Wrath HD for PS3 trailer and details: http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/09/15/debut-trailer-oddworld-strangers-wrath-hd-for-ps3/
| Quote: | It’s been a long road for us, and we’ve made a whole truck full of updates. We’ve updated EVERY one of 83 characters in the game, the vast majority of the environmental textures, and a lot of the environment geometry. We’ve also completely updated the user interface, added some easter eggs into the game, and a whole raft of unlockable extras — some never seen before, and some rarely seen.
To celebrate being at the end of the development cycle for Stranger’s Wrath, we wanted to share this trailer with you. The trailer looks great but the game looks better: you just can’t capture 60 frames-per-second action in a web trailer! |
Just the previous month, Digital Foundry sort of reconfirmed the updates will come to the PC for free. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-hd-remasters?page=3
| Quote: | | An advantage of branching off the codebase like this is that once JAW's enhancements to the game are complete, they can be rolled back into the existing PC conversion of the game in the form of a free title update |
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