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Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005 22:41 Post subject: VBS1 - Operation Flashpoint engine based military simulator |
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Hi Guys.
I'm sure that, most of you never heard about that simulator ?! Right ?
OK, VBS1 is Operation flashpoint engine based military simulator. This simulator made by BIA - Bohemia interactivi Autralia.
VBS1 use Extreamly upgraded OFP engine:
* new graphic, and truly textures.
* Advanced AI
And lot's of other stuff.
This simulator made to military use, but after year 2004 this simulator is now available for every one, ofcoos if u have big pocket , VBS1 + all upgrades cost: about 500$ :O http://www.vbsresources.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=184
This simulator use nice protection, every copy has own USB Key, that mean, if u wanna play this sim u neet stick your USB key in USB holes , nice, eh ?
Screens for here: http://www.vbsresources.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=184
Reloaded where are u 
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Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005 22:53 Post subject: Re: VBS1 - Operation Flashpoint engine based military simula |
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-Mafia- wrote: | Hi Guys.
I'm sure that, most of you never heard about that simulator ?! Right ?
OK, VBS1 is Operation flashpoint engine based military simulator. This simulator made by BIA - Bohemia interactivi Autralia.
VBS1 use Extreamly upgraded OFP engine:
* new graphic, and truly textures.
* Advanced AI
And lot's of other stuff.
This simulator made to military use, but after year 2004 this simulator is now available for every one, ofcoos if u have big pocket , VBS1 + all upgrades cost: about 500$ :O http://www.vbsresources.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=184
This simulator use nice protection, every copy has own USB Key, that mean, if u wanna play this sim u neet stick your USB key in USB holes , nice, eh ?
Screens for here: http://www.vbsresources.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=184
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Wow, that is a truly sick looking game - now I want it...fuck
$500 for it tho? like 500 dollars? fuck....that shit better be PERFECT
interesting tho
I wonder if this will be cracked
I think any group that cracks this will honestly be uncontested champ of pc game iso scene...unless it has worse protection that SF...but i'd assume this thing is protected 10 times as much
Hope we get this one
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Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005 23:01 Post subject: |
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I think this has been up on this forum awhile ago, if I don't misrecall.
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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Posted: Fri, 15th Apr 2005 00:07 Post subject: |
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looks good, but battlefield 2 looks a little better in my opinion
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Posted: Fri, 15th Apr 2005 00:52 Post subject: Re: VBS1 - Operation Flashpoint engine based military simula |
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SycoShaman wrote: | I think any group that cracks this will honestly be uncontested champ of pc game iso scene...unless it has worse protection that SF...but i'd assume this thing is protected 10 times as much
Hope we get this one |
I highly doubt VBS1's protection is superior to StarForce. Dongle cracks for lots of software titles [requiring a dongle] are released every month. I honestly don't think any game rls group would bother w/ this anyway, though it does look appealing.
dyn IP addys, subnet & mac spoofs, email routing, and if all else fails, wi-fi. banned? lol, its more like brb. =p
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Posted: Fri, 15th Apr 2005 01:29 Post subject: |
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aside from if the protection is the best or not
the game looks fuckin sick
for real
hope we see this one
not for those of you who like arcade style military games
I do prefer simulation as oppose to arcade...cuz u learn something while ur playing ya know...tactics and shit
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Posted: Fri, 15th Apr 2005 02:04 Post subject: |
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Cool video: http://www2.kamran.cc/VBS1-officialmovies/VBS1Trailer.mpg
Many people compare Operation Flashpoint with Battlefield series. the reason is probably due to the "freedom" that the games provide (beeing able to drive all the vehicles). but you are missing the the big part, which is that BF is an arcade game while OF is more of a simulator. BF has, for me, allways been a multiplayer (online) game rather than a single player game (offline) - because I hate that type of singe player, where there is no storyline with no missions.
While OF on the other hand, has the BEST singe player EVER. This was the first and the only game I have compleeted 3 times - just because it had an awsome storyline - real is what I am talking about.
BF 2 does LOOK much better, but still, it will only be a multiplayer game, no story this time either (as far as I know). I loved BF 1942 and not so much Vietnam, but I will buy BF2 as soon as it's released 
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Posted: Fri, 15th Apr 2005 02:12 Post subject: |
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im pretty sure there are 1000 threads on this forum about this game somewhere
Comparing BF to OFP is idiotic
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Posted: Fri, 15th Apr 2005 02:13 Post subject: |
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Posted: Fri, 15th Apr 2005 03:11 Post subject: |
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Oh BTW... the guys who developed this game arent a video game company. So its not a game. There may be gamers that play it, but it doesnt actually make it a game. If you say its a game, I bet next you'll be thinking you can get tactics off of Call Of Duty. Fact is, its the same or was the same simulation (VBS1) that was used to help train military troops. Because see, in the real world you cant start over when you die. In the simulation they have, you'd be scored by how well you performed the operation in the simulator. Atleast thats what they do in the military. The reason why its a simulator becuase its not like in games like BF or CoD where you can sustain so much damage and live, and the recoil rate of guns even on SMG or AK-74s are rediculous.
Same can be said about Swat 4. Yea, I love the game. But they made an error in the bullets. First off, Jacketed Hollow Point bullets in that game act as if they can shoot from long range distances with the same effect as if it were a FMJ. I'm sorry, but JHP bullets are heavier and are more accurate at close ranged distance. I cant believe in that game the devs made it so that the FMJ rounds suck, but in real life their the most commonly used type of bullet. You should use JHP rounds however in your handguns.
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Posted: Fri, 15th Apr 2005 06:45 Post subject: |
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-=Cartoon=- wrote: | im pretty sure there are 1000 threads on this forum about this game somewhere
Comparing BF to OFP is idiotic |
Indeed. OFP is way way way better then BF...
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Posted: Fri, 15th Apr 2005 10:47 Post subject: |
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Hitman, have you actually played it?
Quote: | What are the increased simulation aspects? Improved Textures and new units don't exactly scream out to me - what's been improved from OPF to turn it into a true simulation and not a game?
I've watched the video, read the blurb - but nothing stands out. |
Quote: | who is to say for example that these more realistic stats for weapons is nothing more than updated variables, rather than a rehaul of the system behind them?
can throw the word realism around, but there is no evidence (in the video either), of anything much improved. |
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Posted: Fri, 15th Apr 2005 10:57 Post subject: |
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Ispep wrote: | Hitman, have you actually played it?
Quote: | What are the increased simulation aspects? Improved Textures and new units don't exactly scream out to me - what's been improved from OPF to turn it into a true simulation and not a game?
I've watched the video, read the blurb - but nothing stands out. |
Quote: | who is to say for example that these more realistic stats for weapons is nothing more than updated variables, rather than a rehaul of the system behind them?
can throw the word realism around, but there is no evidence (in the video either), of anything much improved. |
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Yes, I have. To quote that please name the source. The reviewer must be on crack. Thats all the military uses for simulators is simulations. Whether it be in 3D or in the real world.
The actual character models seem impressive even though this game has been out awhile. The scenery which means the terrain is questionable though except for the water and some other things. You cant rate this simulator too much on graphics because its not played/used as a game. its just a tool. Thats why it costs $500 other than protection.
If anything, go to the VBS1 forums yourself and take a look. The realism is in the guns and the firing, and tactics used to complete each mission. They use different equipment for different terrains.
BTW, the reviewer of that must of reviewed it as a game when its not a game.
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Please don`t compare those Battlefield Franchise Games with a really good Simulation. |
Exactly, but to these retards everything is run and gun. Oh, and the usual 2 by 2 formation covering tactic I'd hate to see how some of these people do in simulators or the real thing. The point is theres no relation to the BF games.
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Posted: Fri, 15th Apr 2005 11:10 Post subject: |
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That's not a review - it was a question directed at anyone who has actually played it, something I haven't done. I don't find your answer very compelling either. I don't have the desire to go searching the forums, but if you can quote anything specific then I'd appreciate it.
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Posted: Fri, 15th Apr 2005 12:08 Post subject: |
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What type of answer would you like me to give you than? Theres a bunch of mission packs you buy. Its a military simulator. Its realism in form of combat, and tactics of going about a mission. Also, it seemed like some sort of mini-review to me what was quoted. It seemed like it was copy and pasted from a website. Sorry.
Theres not too much to say about VBS1 though, except that its a military simulator. It focuses on the type of missions that the army goes through. OFP was a video game. This is a simulator. Its much different now. The units differ from addon to addon. Thats what keeps making you want to buy more. The more simulated missions you get, as seeing how good it is to even challenge yourself, you'll want more. Units you must be talking about as in helichopters and tanks, right? Yep. You also get motor boats. The missions themselves are not like its out of a video game with some storyline, if thats what your wondering. You got your objectives and you have to meet what needs to be done. The whole idea is to complete the missions with as much success as you can.
Some of the addons you get new animals (yes, to make the surroundings, and scenery more life like), weapons, and vehicles. But along with that you get missions. For example: The Australian Defense Force Pack 2 comes with units such as Tactical Assault Group units, Reconassaince, Helicopter crew. The game is usually constantly updated from what I play. Their supposed to be releasing some Marine Corps version later on I think, unless the gov banned that one.
The guns are fired like they would in video games except with more precision and control. You get a good variety of weapons, and it increases with more addons.
http://virtualbattlespace.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=28&osCsid=7a0aaa2c046b3e27e16454b75bb0987f
Thats the basic game right there and it tells you all whats in it. Not going to quote as theres alot there. Just check that page out.
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Posted: Fri, 15th Apr 2005 15:04 Post subject: |
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*Reinstalls OFP*
Man.. i cant belive how good OFP was.. most people did not get it.. but it was SUCH a good game
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Posted: Fri, 15th Apr 2005 15:48 Post subject: |
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xAiTheHitman wrote: | What type of answer would you like me to give you than? Theres a bunch of mission packs you buy. Its a military simulator. Its realism in form of combat, and tactics of going about a mission. Also, it seemed like some sort of mini-review to me what was quoted. It seemed like it was copy and pasted from a website. Sorry. |
Don't be, I just copied and pasted what I asked in an older thread linked above, thought it might of been clear enough. Obviously not
Quote: | Theres not too much to say about VBS1 though, except that its a military simulator. It focuses on the type of missions that the army goes through. OFP was a video game. This is a simulator. Its much different now. The units differ from addon to addon. Thats what keeps making you want to buy more. The more simulated missions you get, as seeing how good it is to even challenge yourself, you'll want more. Units you must be talking about as in helichopters and tanks, right? Yep. You also get motor boats. The missions themselves are not like its out of a video game with some storyline, if thats what your wondering. You got your objectives and you have to meet what needs to be done. The whole idea is to complete the missions with as much success as you can. |
But yet, in amongst all that text is no evidence of increased realism or features - you could of feasibly done this in the original OPF engine. It was highly moddable and had a great scripting engine allowing for the creation of complex missions.
Quote: | Some of the addons you get new animals (yes, to make the surroundings, and scenery more life like), weapons, and vehicles. But along with that you get missions. For example: The Australian Defense Force Pack 2 comes with units such as Tactical Assault Group units, Reconassaince, Helicopter crew. The game is usually constantly updated from what I play. Their supposed to be releasing some Marine Corps version later on I think, unless the gov banned that one. |
I found the animals a nice addition, I remember they were touting animals for the Operation Flashpoint: Vietnam mod that probably still hasn't seen the light of day? It's still not worth $500 though for that alone
Yeah, as I said - I read all the blurb but it doesn't explain the inner workings of what this simulation actually does differently to the original game. And at $500 I'm not prepared to make that jump, and I have to say I'm hugely skeptical.
From what I've gathered from SaddamHussiens posts over this past year the only real changes are AI and mission design. I'm curious as to how advanced the AI really is though in comparison.
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Posted: Fri, 15th Apr 2005 17:37 Post subject: |
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Vulture wrote: | So nice....
I see WWII mod pics, do you have/know a good WWII mod in OFP?
Edit: I saw you just edited your post
Keep us updated when the mod is public plz, I'm dying to play it over LAN (with a lot of AI bots included). |
uh if ur refering to vbs1...its already available
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Posted: Fri, 15th Apr 2005 19:42 Post subject: |
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Great... Now I want VBS1 too... Thank you for that one...
OFP really was great, one of the best games ever... Too bad the community for it is not as big as it was a year ago. And the sequel never seems to be released either as they still claims to be working on the xbox version of OFP (thats what they've said for the last 2 years). They also said that there will be no real development of OFP2 until OFP xbox is done.
Now someone plz go get this one and crack it, $500 is a little more than I can pay to play a game... 
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