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I'm looking for a new netbook and I plan to use linux on it. My last one had the infamous GMA500 poulsbo chip that gave me a lot of headaches under linux.
Can anyone recommend a good one? I want a good keyboard, long battery life and it has to be light. Speed isn't important.
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Mar 2011 18:52 Post subject: |
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Not very much into netbooks, but something Ion based then perhaps (if it exists)?
Edit: had a quick glance at http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/cat/496/laptops.html
NVIDIA (Ion == NVIDIA) based boils down to:
- Macbook Air (LOL)
- Dell Alienware (LOL again)
- ASUS EEE
With a Radeon you got a little bit more choice, at more reasonable prices:
- IBM Thinkpad (<3 IBM)
- MSI Wind
- ACER Aspire One
I personally have an MSI X340 now, and despite being all plastic it has pretty decent build quality. I've also heard good things about the Winds, so they are definitely worth considering I think. MBA and Alienware are just funny because of how overpriced they are; and as far as I'm concerned, IBM is still the king of quality.
The site above is Dutch btw, but with Google Translate it shouldn't be a problem (as if the labels on the right side aren't simple enough to understand anyway). The system they have is just so awesome that it's a great way to quickly boil your choices down to models you like.
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Mar 2011 20:26 Post subject: Re: Netbooks |
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| Invasor wrote: | | had the infamous GMA500 poulsbo chip that gave me a lot of headaches under linux. |
Well, every one of them that I see around here have an Intel GMA 3150 (I think it's the 3150) chip so I don't know if it would be much of an improvement.
Every Asus, Acer, Toshiba, Compaq or Samsung netbooks that I ever saw ran on one of those. 
The Samsung netbooks seem particularly reliable too.
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Mar 2011 20:44 Post subject: |
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There is also Acer Aspire One 532G with ION 2.
When buying a netbook with such graphics hardware, there is only one thing to consider - video playback. They are not powerful for gaming, but with HDMI, they are the perfect portable media devices. ION wins here quick above the competition due to CUDA. DXVA is so picky, it will feel like having a lottery which videos works and which doesn't, and there is nothing more annoying than downloading a 1080p release, getting ready to watch and suddenly finding out that the refcount is above the stupid DXVA spec, so it won't accelerate. I'd go for a EEE 1215N 1.8GHz Dual Core Atom + ION 2 + 2-4 GB RAM.
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Mar 2011 22:15 Post subject: |
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What do you guys think about the Lenovo Thinkpad X100?
* 1.6GHz AMD Athlon Neo Single-Core MV-40 Mobile Processor
* 2GB PC2-5300 DDR2 (667MHz)
* Windows 7 Professional 32bit
* 11.6″ WXGA HD anti-glare LED Backlit display (1366×768)
* 250GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
* ATI Radeon 3200 Graphics
* 802.11b/g/n, Gigabit LAN
* 4-in-1 card reader and 0.3-megapixel webcam
* 6-Cell Li-ion battery
* Dimensions: (W x L x H) 11.1″ x 8.2″ x 0.6″/1.2″
* Weight: 3.3 pounds (with 6-cell battery)
+It has a trackpoint, which I like very much in my old dell d630.
The only problem I can see is the relatively low battery duration (it's supposed to run for 5h, but 7h would be ideal).
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Mar 2011 22:31 Post subject: |
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Single core = no. Big no.
Even when it comes to Atom, single core is inexcusable.
Good luck with the Radeon drivers on Linux BTW.  I gave up on mine long time ago.
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Mar 2011 22:50 Post subject: |
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Like I said speed isn't important, I won't be playing anything (just youtube lol) on it, and I'll only use basic apps. Even the old netbook I had (asus 1101 with it's mighty Intel Atom Z520 1.33 GHz and 1gb of ram) was alright, except for the youtube part thanks to the shitty GMA500. And as far as I can tell the ATI 3200 is well supported.
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Is it? Is there hardware accelerated Flash on Linux? Because that CPU can't play 720p Flash video (H264).
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Best of the best for the price..
Netbook
ASUS Eee PC 1215N Intel Atom D525 Dual Core 2GB 250GB NVIDIA ION2 12.1IN Win 7 Prem Netbook - Black (1215N-PU17-BK)
$ 550.00 CDN
Notebook
ASUS N53JF-A1 15.6`` LED Notebook - Core i5 i5-460M 2.53 GHz - Aluminium Silver 1366 x 768 WXGA Display - 4 GB RAM - 500 GB HDD - DVD-Writer - nVIDIA GeForce GT 425M - Bluetooth - Webcam - Windows 7 Home Premium - HDMI
$ 990.00 CDN
Thanks for coming out!
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Mar 2011 00:41 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | Single core = no. Big no. |
listen to this advice more than anything else in this thread.
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Mar 2011 02:05 Post subject: |
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where is my arm netbook?
fanless, hdless <250eur
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ARM -
Let me generalize to RISC -
You'll see, if Windows 8 comes with ARM support, how much worse they perform GHz to GHZ vs. even something like Atom.
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Mar 2011 15:24 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | Is it? Is there hardware accelerated Flash on Linux? Because that CPU can't play 720p Flash video (H264). |
I think so, it works in my desktop (radeon powered, by the way). I'm not sure there's a flash64 though, last version had a serious bug and they simply dropped support for it, I've been using an emulated version.
Anyone knows anything about the "AMD Fusion"? IBM is releasing an updated x120 netbook with "AMD Fusion single-core E-240 or AMD Fusion dual-core E-350" and I wonder if it's worth waiting for it, as I can get a very good price on the x100 now...
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Mar 2011 15:26 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | iNatan wrote: | | Single core = no. Big no. |
listen to this advice more than anything else in this thread. |
'Cause it stalls when cpu reaches 100%? It is annoying, but I'd trade speed for battery life as I'm looking for a netbook, not something big and powerful.
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Mar 2011 17:48 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the link, it really seems like a worthy upgrade, but waiting sucks (no idea how long until the x120 is released here)... I'm still undecided.
I posted the x100 specs above, it has the old AMD Athlon Neo MV-40 (1.60GHz; 512KB) paired with a 3200 radeon...
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No idea how that holds up to an Ion setup to be honest, I'll have to Google around a bit to find out 
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Mar 2011 21:26 Post subject: |
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You might want to look into 13'' CULV laptops as well. They aren't much more expensive then most netbooks but pack a hell of a lot more performance, and still have great battery life.
Asus has the UL30 series which isn't bad at all. The new 13'' macbook pro ain't bad, but it is fairly expensive and has no dedicated graphics so I can't reccomend it when you can get the Asus UL30JT for cheaper and it has better specs. (Automatically switches between Intel integrated and nvidia dedicated when you need it. Has 8-10 hours of real life battery time if you keep it in power saving mode.)
And yeah, the macbook air is a joke. I don't get that thing.
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Mar 2011 16:40 Post subject: |
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Just to update this: I bought the X100e, couldn't wait for the new x120. It's fast enough, the keyboard and screen are great, and so is the trackpoint and the overall build quality (Lenovo IBM standard). It gets really hot, though, not enough to burn someone but it's annoying if you don't use it on a desk, and battery life isn't great (only 4hrs, but I knew that before buying...).
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Mar 2011 03:24 Post subject: |
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Yeah to be honest before buying it I was already planning on getting a x120 dual core in a few months (but I couldn't wait). I even have someone to sell this one to.
But my last netbook was single core and the battery life was like infinite... (10+ hours, asus 1101)
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Mar 2011 04:20 Post subject: |
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but really what do you do for 10 hours where you're away from an outlet? 4-5 hours maybe, even on flights now they have ac outlets in the back of the seat.
and the point of dual core now + HD hardware decoder is that it should be a decent multimedia device.
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Mar 2011 04:23 Post subject: |
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It's just that I'm too lazy to carry the ac adapter all the time... With the asus I always left it at home.
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