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Ankh




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 06:23    Post subject: Any good?
So my main computer broke down 2 days ago - i ordered this. Any good or a stupid buy?

•Intel Core™ i7 Quad Processor i7-960, Quad Core, 3,2Ghz, Socket 1366, 8MB, QPI: 4,8GT/sec, 130W, Boxed w/fan
•ASUS Rampage III GENE, X58, S-1366 m-ATX, DDR3, USB 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s, Firewire, 2xPCI-Ex(2.0)x16
•Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333MHz 6GB CL9 Kit w/3x 2GB XMS3 modules, CL9-9-9-24, for Core i7


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 06:36    Post subject:
Great buy, though depending on where you buy from - you could save a bit of cash by getting the i7-930 instead. I-frigging-dentical processor, just the 960 is clocked higher by default and costs more. Of course if there's only €10-20 difference, the 960 is fine =) Does your retailer have any G.Skill or OCZ memory for sale? Corsair are ok, but G.Skill/OCZ are much better -- especially compared to the XMS series, which is really Corsair's budget stuff.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 10:20    Post subject:
Is good.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 15:24    Post subject: Re: Any good?
Ankh wrote:
So my main computer broke down 2 days ago - i ordered this. Any good or a stupid buy?

•Intel Core™ i7 Quad Processor i7-960, Quad Core, 3,2Ghz, Socket 1366, 8MB, QPI: 4,8GT/sec, 130W, Boxed w/fan
•ASUS Rampage III GENE, X58, S-1366 m-ATX, DDR3, USB 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s, Firewire, 2xPCI-Ex(2.0)x16
•Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333MHz 6GB CL9 Kit w/3x 2GB XMS3 modules, CL9-9-9-24, for Core i7


Stupid buy? It's damn great if you ask to me Very Happy
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 16:47    Post subject:
Well I wasnt sure...but thanks for telling me its good Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 16:53    Post subject:
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human_steel




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 16:54    Post subject:
What video card do you have?
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 17:57    Post subject:
5870 Eyefinity 6. Since im using 3x24" screens. (2gb gddr5)


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Ankh




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 18:36    Post subject:
Actually, I cancelled the order. Gonna make a couple of changes. Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 18:49    Post subject:
Why? Not enough money? Cool Face
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 19:09    Post subject:
No, changed to this one instead Smile

* Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7, Socket-1155
ATX, P67, DDR3, 4xPCIe(2.0)x16, CFX& SLI, 2xGbLAN,
* Kingston DDR3 HyperX 1600MHz 8GB
Kit w/2X HyperX 4GB DDR3, CL9-9-9-27, 240pin
* Intel Core? i7 Quad Processor i7-2600K
3,4GHz, Socket LGA1155, 8MB, Boxed
* Kingston SSDNow V+100 96GB
SATA2, 2,5", MLC, 230/180MB/s read/write speed


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human_steel




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 19:18    Post subject:
Definitely a better rig. Smile Personally, I'd stay away from Gigabyte's current p67 boards. They have lots of BIOS problems, especially when it comes down to overclocking. I've had some bad experience while using my ga-p67a-ud3 board and a friend of mine too with his ga-p67a-ud7 board. Asrock are quite a good choice - p67 extreme4 (I have that one and it's rock-sloid, literally) and p67 fatal1ity (by seeing what range of boards you're aiming at). Smile
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 22:29    Post subject:
Bah! A hardware ace I know have giving me a lecture Razz Apparently this is what I should get (and my final order..sent for it now, wont bother to change again! lol! 3rd time I order today!)

1x Corsair Vengeance? DDR3 1600MHz 6GB CL8
Kit w/3x 2GB XMS3 modules, CL8-8-8-24, 1.5V, Venge
1x ASUS SABERTOOTH X58, Socket-1366
ATX, X58, DDR3, 3xPCIe(2.0)x16, GbLAN, FireWire, T
1x Intel Core? i7 Quad Processor i7-950
Quad Core, 3,06Ghz, Socket 1366, 8MB, 130W, Boxed
2x Intel® X25-M SSD 120GB 2,5"
SATA II, read/write of up to 250MB/100MB sec, MLC,

Something about the lack of LGA 1366's PCI express lanes and true tripple channel memory support. And the x58 being superior.

Anyway, I hope I will like it Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 22:54    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
Bah! A hardware ace I know have giving me a lecture Razz Apparently this is what I should get (and my final order..sent for it now, wont bother to change again! lol! 3rd time I order today!)

I'm sorry, but that guy is not a hardware ace.

A 2600K beats the 950 by miles, not to mention that it has much better overclocking potential. In fact, it beats the 980X in a lot of cases.

The X25-M he recommended is also much worse value than any SandForce based drive (which SSDNow V+ would be). I also assume he suggested running them in RAID-0? Also quite worthless, as the increased sequential speeds would only be useful for huge file transfers, something typically associated with a storage drive. 240 GB != storage.

The "lack" of PCI-E lanes on 1155/P67 means that you can only do 2x8 PCI-E 2.0 instead of 2x16 - Something which will cost you less than 5 FPS, a number you won't give a shit about if you're running SLI or CFX anyway.

I know you don't have to worry about money, but even from a performance point of view he suggested a lot of wrong stuff Smile

Edit: not to mention that in just a couple of months you'll be able to get WAY better SSDs from both Intel and SandForce partners; I'm sure you have a drive you can run on till then Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 23:09    Post subject:
Actually, I don't plan on running them in raid Smile I wanted 2.
Im not running sli or cfx.
The drives I wanted at first actually had shitloads of bad reviews.

And last - I don't do overclocking Smile

I appriciate your words of wisdom - but I do trust this guy since he's done lots of testings professionally for magazines and such. I've made my final decision with my pc. and ill stick to it Razz
The thing is, I need it f.a.s.t. Since my other broke and im starting to get frustrated. I do have lots of other pcs, but I just can't stand them Very Happy

Anyway, I think those things I ordered will go well with my HAF 932 case.

Oh btw - reason I added another ssd was cos i could afford it Razz


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 23:15    Post subject:
Werelds - my reply came out abit unfriendly...sorry bout that mate Razz Ill give you a free kill next time we play cod! Wink


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 23:21    Post subject:
Now change back to the old order.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 23:52    Post subject:
Im so lost in this djungle...But your 2 against one...so i changed back lol! That store I ordered from will hate me for this! I did however keep the 120gb ssd.


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Ankh




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 23:53    Post subject:
Ye know - one really shouldnt bother with these kind of things while tired/sick and stressed Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Mar 2011 09:15    Post subject:
Don't worry Ankh, I don't get offended easily Wink
Try harder!

Not saying that your friend is a complete idiot, but there are a few things where he only looks at very specific results rather than all-round performance and utility. For example: the 950 will beat the 2600K in extremely heavily threaded apps (also the only place where it will) - something you will not be doing. Even if you did, the sheer clockspeed bump the 2600K can get at 0 cost will put it ahead again.

I still think you made the right choice, the 2600K is faster than the 950 even at its stock speed, but requires less cooling - it is just superior in every single way. Saying you don't overclock with any i7 (first gen) CPU is also a bit silly, as they can all do 3.6-3.8 on the stock air cooler, and you will notice that in games. Games don't care about having 8 logical cores, they care about having 2-4 at high clocks. The 2600K (second gen) does 4.0+ on the stock air cooler, Anand had his running at 4.4 without problems if I remember correctly. I highly encourage you to bump it up to 4.0 once you get it, because it won't hurt the CPU and it will help tremendously with CPU-heavy games. I definitely notice it with BC2 for example; my i5-760 at 2.8 instead of 4.4 makes it have frame drops now and then (1080p fully maxed out obviously, 6950 behind it) Smile

If you don't plan on running SLI/CFX like you said, then the number of PCI-E lanes you "lose" on Sandy Bridge is not worth thinking about. Even if you would consider it, it has been proven dozens of times that x8/x8 vs x16/x16 is hardly noticeable.

As for SSD's:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4202/the-intel-ssd-510-review

That's the 3rd generation of Intel drives - the Vertex 3 is superior, but that is not out yet. This one is. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for buying SSDs, especially if you have the money like I know you do, but 2011 is the year of the SSD. Honestly, this year is gonna bring the best jumps in performance and biggest drops in price in the history of these things. And this 3rd generation fixes the problems the old Intel drives have (they're awesome OS drives, but that's about it), so waiting a short while to get a drive that is *LITERALLY* twice as good as the previous generation at the same price is the smart thing to do.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Mar 2011 15:34    Post subject:
Get a good CPU cooler.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Mar 2011 17:23    Post subject:
Thanks for all advices Smile gettig the hardware tomorrow or friday (they've sent it).

My gf is worried...cos I told her that she is the one to assemble it! (Ive built like 100+ pcs...since I worked with my brother..so its no big deal...but I wanna see if she can handle it!)


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Mar 2011 18:45    Post subject:
Wtf....I got a letter today that said that I had paid too much rent Very Happy so I got €1280 back!!!


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Mar 2011 19:17    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
Thanks for all advices Smile gettig the hardware tomorrow or friday (they've sent it).

My gf is worried...cos I told her that she is the one to assemble it! (Ive built like 100+ pcs...since I worked with my brother..so its no big deal...but I wanna see if she can handle it!)


It would be fun to see how she destroys the procesor or MB while trying to put cooler in place grinhurt Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Mar 2011 19:32    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
Wtf....I got a letter today that said that I had paid too much rent Very Happy so I got €1280 back!!!

Good, now buy that CPU cooler I mentioned.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Mar 2011 19:43    Post subject:
Well...concidering watercooling...but dunno. Any suggestions on good 2600k coolers? Is the one that you get with the cpu that bad??


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Mar 2011 19:56    Post subject:
You don't do a dual GPU setting, you won't overclock, so watercooling would be a major overkill. The stock cooler is pretty good actually, untill it's summer and the CPU starts to heat up. I assume you won't be idling the CPU all the time, just wait untill the cooler goes to turbo mode. That'll be nice. A good cooler shouldn't cost you more than 40 bucks. You get a whisper silent cooler and a lot of headroom if you OC (not OCing any cuurent gen Intel CPU would be a shame imo).
I had an Arctic Freezer thing before for a year, it was shit. Now I have a Scythe Mugen II, great thing. Cost me 35 euros, temps under full load are low with an OCed E8500. It's very silent, my mobo gave me errors at startup because the fanspeed is very low.
If I buy a PC these days there are three things I never disregard (I used to in the past): a good PSU, a good CPU cooler and a good GPU cooler.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Mar 2011 20:22    Post subject:
Any 1156/1366 cooler will fit, so good choices:
- Scythe Mugen II
- Titan Fenrir
- Thermaltake Frio (I got this atm)
- Corsair H50/H70
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Mar 2011 20:51    Post subject:
Ill check what my "dealer" got tomorrow Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Mar 2011 17:32    Post subject:
Get yourself a Corsair H50 with dual noctua fans..its amazing ^_^ but will cost you around 100$ (dont know if you want to spend that much on cpu cooler)


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