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crossmr
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| LMLM wrote: | | crossmr wrote: | | and what's going on with vietnam? I thought they were coming out together? |
No, different developers. Vietnam is being developed by the same developers of MoW. Assault Squad was done by 1C, the publisher. Either that, or the other way around I forget which. Glad to get both. It's a great RTS game engine. Wish they would optimize the UI and offer dedicated servers like World in Conflict... |
Right but I thought they were still coming out around a similar time. I haven't heard boo about it in awhile
Man I'm pissed off about the SP demo being changed into MP Beta. There is no save or pause in MP Beta on the skirmish maps. So annoying. These maps are long, so I prefer to play a couple hours, save and come back to them later. What idiot thought it was a good idea to just uninstall something on someone.
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Feb 2011 17:56 Post subject: |
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| Ancient78 wrote: | | Men.of.War.Assault.Squad.PROPER.CRACK-RELOADED |
Like I said, crybaby scene politics. From the NFO:
| Quote: | Proper notes
SKIDROW did not crack the securom protection, but patched the activation
routine to bypass the protection. This is not an accepted method for a crack
Included is a proper crack with the securom protection removed |
Waaaaaaaaa. As far as I'm concerned, you patch it and the game works, it's cracked. There are no unacceptable methods. If all it takes is changing one byte from a jne to a jmp (or whatever it was in this case) then, fuckin' aye, it's cracked.
If the game doesn't work, you can't change settings, crashes all the time, can't save, whatever....then by all means release a "proper" and high-five all your buddies for being super-cool dudes and one-upping the competition. Otherwise, stfu and move on and quit being little bitches.
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Feb 2011 18:12 Post subject: |
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True that, who cares how its done or whatever as long it works.
all this hate on Skidrow, they deliver nothing but quality.
About the game,
Just got my ass whooped on the first mission after I took over the second outpost.
Those japs came with a sick counterattack, mashed my whole line into pieces.
This playing on hard, its quite difficult which I love.
BTW anybody down to give this a shot over Hamichi or similair sometime?
Multiplayer on this game is pure ownage, havent felt that in a while.
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Feb 2011 21:58 Post subject: |
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| crossmr wrote: | | LMLM wrote: | | crossmr wrote: | | and what's going on with vietnam? I thought they were coming out together? |
No, different developers. Vietnam is being developed by the same developers of MoW. Assault Squad was done by 1C, the publisher. Either that, or the other way around I forget which. Glad to get both. It's a great RTS game engine. Wish they would optimize the UI and offer dedicated servers like World in Conflict... |
Right but I thought they were still coming out around a similar time. I haven't heard boo about it in awhile
Man I'm pissed off about the SP demo being changed into MP Beta. There is no save or pause in MP Beta on the skirmish maps. So annoying. These maps are long, so I prefer to play a couple hours, save and come back to them later. What idiot thought it was a good idea to just uninstall something on someone. |
Its hard to keep track on this series. This is my take:
1C is the main publisher (it uses other pub houses in the west)
Best Way(Ucranian or Russian) build the engine (GEM)
Vietnam is being done by the same team that did MOW-Red Tide (maybe Best Way)
MOW was co- developed by Best Way and DMS (Germany)
MOW: Assault Squad is the same but I believe with more imput from DMS
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Vietnam (as was with Red Tide) will be mainly Single Player
If anyone is looking for more information on MOW:AS ---> DMS forum
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Tit@n
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LMLM
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LMLM
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Feb 2011 13:28 Post subject: |
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God there's so much going for this game but damn it uses only ONE cpu core!! Arg! Performance drops like a rock on bigger maps. This is one title that needs an overclocked CPU because of this. I don't see how they justify the way they designed the game this way because it is very CPU intensive so just about everyone is going to suffer.
System Requirements
o OS: Windows XP/Vista/7
o Processor: 2.6GHz Processor or higher (no multicore support mentioned)
o Memory: 1GB or higher
o Graphics: DX9c compatible GPU
o DirectX®: DX9c
o Hard Drive: 4GB
o Sound: any OS compatible
Anyone on an high end i7 processor care to share their experience please when battles start to involve 50+ or 100+ active units?
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thyttel
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Feb 2011 14:33 Post subject: |
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| LMLM wrote: | God there's so much going for this game but damn it uses only ONE cpu core!! Arg! Performance drops like a rock on bigger maps. This is one title that needs an overclocked CPU because of this. I don't see how they justify the way they designed the game this way because it is very CPU intensive so just about everyone is going to suffer.
System Requirements
o OS: Windows XP/Vista/7
o Processor: 2.6GHz Processor or higher (no multicore support mentioned)
o Memory: 1GB or higher
o Graphics: DX9c compatible GPU
o DirectX®: DX9c
o Hard Drive: 4GB
o Sound: any OS compatible
Anyone on an high end i7 processor care to share their experience please when battles start to involve 50+ or 100+ active units? |
Ive got a i7 950 (not clocked)
SLI Nvidia GTX470
6GB ram
and my fps counter is at a constant 60 fps (with vsync turned on) and never any hickups or slowdowns no matter how many units are on the screen.
Everything in settings is set to max ofcourse....
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b0se
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Feb 2011 15:03 Post subject: |
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Anyone care to make a small review ?
[spoiler][quote="SteamDRM"]i've bought mohw :derp: / FPS of the year! [/quote]
[quote="SteamDRM"][quote="b0se"]BLACK OPS GOTY[/quote]
No.[/quote][/spoiler]
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crossmr
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Feb 2011 16:17 Post subject: |
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I've got an i5 760, 4 GB ram, 1 GB geforce 460GTX and Carantan has some serious issues. The other maps seem to be fine thus far. It's only that map. Someone commented that it has a lot of extra doodads on it compared to other maps.
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Feb 2011 20:08 Post subject: Men of War Assault Squad |
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Feb 2011 21:17 Post subject: |
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I really enjoy the game, just had a blast on Operation Market Garden. Fierce fights for control points, the brits spammed me with arty fire and counterattacks.
What i don't like:
1) Tanks are quite fragile; even my veteran Tiger couldn't whitstand a lucky HE shot from a brit howitzer (it was't even an AT gun). The Pz-IV and Pz-III pop like baloons, even under low caliber frontal shots.
2) In skirmish you don't have the full unit roster to choose from, as opposed to multiplayer. I wanted to get myself a King Tiger, or a Jagdtiger, but they weren't available even after capturing their last line of defense.
I'll take a look with the editor, maybe it can be fixed.
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Maus0r
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Feb 2011 00:20 Post subject: |
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| NoLiMiTSoLDieR wrote: | True that, who cares how its done or whatever as long it works.
all this hate on Skidrow, they deliver nothing but quality.
About the game,
Just got my ass whooped on the first mission after I took over the second outpost.
Those japs came with a sick counterattack, mashed my whole line into pieces.
This playing on hard, its quite difficult which I love.
BTW anybody down to give this a shot over Hamichi or similair sometime?
Multiplayer on this game is pure ownage, havent felt that in a while. |
It works oerfectly over Tunngle, haven't tried Hamchi so I couldn't comment. Me and a mate co-op it though, far too many more-skilled-than-me players to stand a chance! I'm loving this game though, graphics are superb, gameplay feels more like a proper warfilm than COH (my current favourite RTS) and the graphics are lush. The destruction engine is a class above CoH, and a skirmish map on medium is taking well over an hour and a half with 2 of us. One thing though, it brings my system to it's knees on high settings (X3 AMD. 4GB DDR3 9800GT).
Quite how they managed to cram so much game into a little over 1GB is amazing. Best thing I've done so far? knocked out, repaired and crewed 3 panzer IV's and turned them back on the Germans. Sweet. I also love how your army can be almost brought to a standstill by a well placed enemy AT gun. Damn, this is worth purchasing for definite, once you get the hang of the shared resourcing. Cooperation is most definitely the name of the game.
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Feb 2011 00:34 Post subject: Re: Men of War Assault Squad |
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Feb 2011 00:50 Post subject: Re: Men of War Assault Squad |
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LMLM
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Feb 2011 11:55 Post subject: |
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For those of us having severe performance issue there is apparently a fix:
http://www.digitalmindsoft.eu/forums/viewtopic.php?f=148&t=9131
Note: This severe performance issue is apparently affecting ATI users. Not sure about nVidia cards.
| Quote: | Finally Got The Game Running Smooth!
Postby Sethos » 19.02.2011, 22:38
Hello,
I've previously voiced concerns over the frankly horrendous performance of this game and have come to the conclusion, if I want to improve my performance, I have to start tweaking and messing about with the game myself. After a few hours of tweaking, trying various settings and testing the game's various options, I have finally found a way to turn my game into a completely smooth experience ( 40FPS+ )
So I wanted to create this thread in the hope of at least one person in the same situation as me will benefit and my mission is accomplished, as this game deserves to be enjoyed at a smooth framerate.
Now before we begin, here's my quick specifications;
i7 940
12GB DDR3 Ram
5970
With the above on a 'default launch' with every setting on High / Ultra, no AF /AA, the game would slow to a crawl on most levels and levels with buildings would be beyond unplayable. Odd thing is, turning down every single setting to its lowest would do practically nothing!
So I downloaded RadeonPro ( http://www.radeonpro.info/en-US/ ) A free profile tool that'll allow you to see a heap of options before starting the game, very powerful. I loaded up the Men of War: Assault Squad .exe straight from the Steamapps folder and started configuring. After 2 hours of constant testing I found some crucial things to a smooth performance;
Disable Crossfire! Game isn't Crossfire compatible and not only does it not take advantage of the second GPU Core, it also slows performance right now. I believe this also goes for nVdia users. This gave me at least a 400% boost.
Enable Triple-Buffering for Direct3D Applications and increase the Flip Queue Size ( 3 default, set it to 4 or 5 ) ( For nVidia: Pre-Rendered Frames ). As the game seems to take poorly advantage of new hardware and the raw process power of the hardware gets funnelled into the slow engine, both of these will just give all that unused power something to do; process frames ahead. While I didn't test them individually to any extend, having both enabled gave me a 300% boost in FPS.
Lesser Tweaks in RadeonPro: Make sure Anisotropic, Trilinear and Surface Format Optimization is enabled. Tick "Disable Aero" for Windows Vista / 7 users and tick all your available CPUs under CPU Affinity to try and force the game to use more cores than normal.
This seems to make up the last percentage, removed some very faint stuttering.
Bonus Tip: You can enable MLAA ( Morphological Antialiasing / Filtering ) a new stunning AA mode for ATi cards, it strains the system a lot less and provides in many cases a very smooth edge equivalent to 2x / 4x AA ( Albeit not as crisp in certain places ). I'm able to enable this with no performance hit basically and get some fantastic looking edges and leave in-game AA disabled.
With all of the above, I can now run the game with everything on Max, AA is left disabled as explained above and AF I've set to 4x. And this is on the Skirmish map "Overlord" with plenty of buildings in view that would cripple my game to 3-8 FPS, now running 40-60!! ( Hence the huge percentages in speed boost  )
I will still say, you will get a nice boost by disabling Shadows completely ( Speaking as an ATi owner ), seems to be a major clash right there.
Hopefully someone will benefit from the above, pass on the word or perhaps provide some real feedback if it works for others.
Regards,
Sethos. 
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| Quote: | Re: Finally Got The Game Running Smooth!
Postby Sethos » 25.02.2011, 14:21
So the retail version was released today and I quickly launched the game to test out the performance versus the Beta version. Unfortunately it seems very similar, identical basically so all of my tweaks are still very much valid. I did however do some more testing and found MLAA while nice, is a bit more taxing than I first anticipated.
Disabling MLAA gained me a few extra FPS while in towns, where the FPS is really scraping the bottom. Disabling Vsync in-game and in the RadeonPro profile application also seemed to smooth things out - Placebo or not, didn't do any extensive testing.
I've tried various things now and I can't come any closer to a decent framerate. I will however say, I seem to be influenced by the "25 FPS" ATi bug too. While I can easily hit 60 FPS most places on the maps, whenever there's a slew of buildings or just a lot of objects in general my FPS dips dramatically but the odd thing is, it drops to around 20 then builds up to 25 and stays there, exactly! Move out of town, back up to 60 - Tried another town, bam 25FPS ...
So while my little guide can help the game a long way, there seems to be a nasty bug present for ATi users that hinders any further performance gain in the place where it matters most.
Hopefully ATi ( AMD ) or the developers can look into this, perhaps get in touch with ATi with the issue.
Regards,
Sethos. |
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Feb 2011 12:05 Post subject: |
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Basically disable Crossfire then. I doubt the rest do much.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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LMLM
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Feb 2011 13:08 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | Basically disable Crossfire then. I doubt the rest do much. |
Did you read it? It says more than to disable xfire. From the testing I did just now the game seems much improved and I don't have a crossfire setup. Need to play a longer MP game to test that.
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JBeckman
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crossmr
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Mar 2011 01:20 Post subject: |
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There have been several people complaining that a certain armoured car can't be repaired fully to be used, and no fix on that. Apparently the gun stays red no matter how many times you fix it and they won't get in and use it.
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Mar 2011 02:24 Post subject: |
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Basing the whole game play on control points has totally ruined the tactical aspect that made the series great.
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Guyver
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Mar 2011 17:57 Post subject: |
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I miss the good old storymode coop.
That was my favourite part.
Skirmish is fun, but not as fun as normal coop was.
I hate you.
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Guyver
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2011 21:49 Post subject: Assault Squad quality |
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Assault Squad= Worst MOW game ever!
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LMLM
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2011 23:55 Post subject: Re: Assault Squad quality |
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| bgabor911 wrote: | | Assault Squad= Worst MOW game ever! |
How so??
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2011 02:10 Post subject: |
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i finished the game,.. with tv near monitor,. i watched nice movies 
i give 5/10 because, tanks pops like pop corn, i try to repair tank (3 and a half minute) then i'm hit again with ONE missile and tank destroyed and unrepairable, stupid skirmish gameplay,.. concquer a base, wait for counterattack, go to another base,.. cmon, where is beautifull gameplay from last "mow" games? Hiding, stealing, repairing, in last games, no strategy in this,.. load units and click atack on base and that's it,..
Why walk, when you can ride.
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LMLM
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2011 03:13 Post subject: |
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| keewee23 wrote: | i finished the game,.. with tv near monitor,. i watched nice movies
i give 5/10 because, tanks pops like pop corn, i try to repair tank (3 and a half minute) then i'm hit again with ONE missile and tank destroyed and unrepairable, stupid skirmish gameplay,.. concquer a base, wait for counterattack, go to another base,.. cmon, where is beautifull gameplay from last "mow" games? Hiding, stealing, repairing, in last games, no strategy in this,.. load units and click atack on base and that's it,.. |
Do you know that Assault Squad is primarily aiming for the multiplayer game? There is no campaign because of this. If you want stronger tanks, I'm sure there are, or will be, mods to improve the tanks. They intentionally weakened the tanks because in MoW MP games, the tanks were overpowered.
MoW: Vietnam will be more like the first MoW.
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Mar 2011 21:32 Post subject: |
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| akwar wrote: | | Basing the whole game play on control points has totally ruined the tactical aspect that made the series great. |
Very true!
And like your earlier comment regarding the massiveness of the units involved -thus moving away from the tactical unit gameplay- the game now ressembles the CoH-series too much. I liked the SHoWWII, FoW and previous MoW variants more.
The only good thing which adds some extra playability would be the editor (though I haven't used that one yet).
Btw, you can patch the Skidrow version with the official 1.81.2 update, no new fixed exe needed!
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