What is more preferable ?
1. Generate 6 new numbers in range of 1 to 45 inclusive for each draw.
2. Use the same 6 numbers for each draw.
I am leaning to number 2, if lottery doesn't change pseudo-random generation algorithm each draw, it should increase my chances, so eventually I could get "lucky"
What is more preferable ?
1. Generate 6 new numbers in range of 1 to 45 inclusive for each draw.
2. Use the same 6 numbers for each draw.
I am leaning to number 2, if lottery doesn't change pseudo-random generation algorithm each draw, it should increase my chances, so eventually I could get "lucky"
Am I wrong ?
...and what is the winning number selection method? If it's some sort of physically randomised dynamic system then the "pseudo-random generation algorithm" would be infinitely complex. Are a full 6 matching numbers required for any kind of 'win' scenario?
If this is the case then probability theory dictates that you would have a one in approximately eight million chance of winning during each draw.
This is of course making the assumption that any given number can only appear once in each set of 6. It also assumes that you pick the numbers randomly and not sequentially.
In more familiar terms if the winning number selection method is truly random then you are 4 times more likely to get struck by lightning, then to win this lottery, regardless of how you select the numbers.
Having researched this in the past myself I can tell you that if this is some sort of amateur lottery using an electronic number generator then your chances increase dramatically since most cheap systems employ pseudorandom number generator software that runs on the Fortuna family of algorithms.
I've actually succeeded in winning a lottery through predicting the next 10 most probable numbers generated from a known rest state. But this requires a significant amount of further information and demands that you have access to the number generator itself, either the specific software instance or the piece of dedicated electronic hardware. You can then extrapolate the amount of randomisation pools the generator algorithm employs, and the reseeding rate for the potential numbers. There is decryption software that can be obtained fairly easily for you to plug these numbers into.
Obviously that's a very strict set of circumstance, but since I was involved in the actual set up of this lottery I could get this info. Then I just bought ten tickets for £10 and won a PSP lol, which was the runner up prize. First prize was a (at the time) beastly laptop.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
Thanks, dingo_d, AnimalMother. Now I got aha moment on why all the trouble with balls machine instead of pseudo-random number generation
Yeah you'll never find a professional set-up using electronic algorithm based pseudo-random number generation. I mean I'm no programming whiz, just very familiar with applied mathematics because of my study of physics, and I managed to crack it.
There are people out there that can do this kind of shit in their sleep, and they're banned from most casino's lol.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
I imagine that the purpose of this thread is for you to make some money on casinos or whatever, and if you're looking it, why don't you just do some bets exchange trading like on betfair, it's a relatively fast learning procedure you can make a considerable amount of money with a very controlled risk.
Also, for a risk free experience, bonus whoring STILL can make you quite a nice amount of money, between, signup bonuses, seasonal bonuses and special bonuses you can make quite a nice income out of it!
Also, if you have a decent starting investnment, say $2000+, Arbitrage methods (which are always risk free) can make you over $50 a day/$100 a day, only doing 1 or 2 arbitrage bets a day!
If you're interested I can show you some details
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither
- Benjamin Franklin - 1759
I imagine that the purpose of this thread is for you to make some money on casinos or whatever, and if you're looking it, why don't you just do some bets exchange trading like on betfair, it's a relatively fast learning procedure you can make a considerable amount of money with a very controlled risk.
Also, for a risk free experience, bonus whoring STILL can make you quite a nice amount of money, between, signup bonuses, seasonal bonuses and special bonuses you can make quite a nice income out of it!
Also, if you have a decent starting investnment, say $2000+, Arbitrage methods (which are always risk free) can make you over $50 a day/$100 a day, only doing 1 or 2 arbitrage bets a day!
If you're interested I can show you some details
I love the way you make it seem like earning a sustainable (potentially more then just remunerating) income out of thin air is easy enough that anyone can do it. You do have certain 'advantages' that the majority do not.
Haha I might have to resort to this if I fuck up that test lol.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
I imagine that the purpose of this thread is for you to make some money on casinos or whatever, and if you're looking it, why don't you just do some bets exchange trading like on betfair, it's a relatively fast learning procedure you can make a considerable amount of money with a very controlled risk.
Also, for a risk free experience, bonus whoring STILL can make you quite a nice amount of money, between, signup bonuses, seasonal bonuses and special bonuses you can make quite a nice income out of it!
Also, if you have a decent starting investnment, say $2000+, Arbitrage methods (which are always risk free) can make you over $50 a day/$100 a day, only doing 1 or 2 arbitrage bets a day!
If you're interested I can show you some details
I love the way you make it seem like earning a sustainable (potentially more then just remunerating) income out of thin air is easy enough that anyone can do it. You do have certain 'advantages' that the majority do not.
Haha I might have to resort to this if I fuck up that test lol.
It is. Just most people are too lazy to sit down and learn. Simple as that =/
I imagine that the purpose of this thread is for you to make some money on casinos or whatever, and if you're looking it, why don't you just do some bets exchange trading like on betfair, it's a relatively fast learning procedure you can make a considerable amount of money with a very controlled risk.
Also, for a risk free experience, bonus whoring STILL can make you quite a nice amount of money, between, signup bonuses, seasonal bonuses and special bonuses you can make quite a nice income out of it!
Also, if you have a decent starting investnment, say $2000+, Arbitrage methods (which are always risk free) can make you over $50 a day/$100 a day, only doing 1 or 2 arbitrage bets a day!
If you're interested I can show you some details
I love the way you make it seem like earning a sustainable (potentially more then just remunerating) income out of thin air is easy enough that anyone can do it. You do have certain 'advantages' that the majority do not.
Haha I might have to resort to this if I fuck up that test lol.
It is. Just most people are too lazy to sit down and learn. Simple as that =/
Both you and Ronhrin are far more intelligent then average, even relative to a superior demographic vis-à-vis the population of a high computer literacy niche; such as this forum, which will have a mean about 10 points higher then the global.
You say the only reason for a lack of expertise is that most people are too lazy to learn, but would you say the same thing about subjects such as Astrophysics or Molecular Biology? That the primary limitation on mastery is the laziness of an individual?
Maybe learning new systems of data dynamics comes easily to you, but not to everyone.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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I love the way you make it seem like earning a sustainable (potentially more then just remunerating) income out of thin air is easy enough that anyone can do it. You do have certain 'advantages' that the majority do not.
Haha I might have to resort to this if I fuck up that test lol.
It is. Just most people are too lazy to sit down and learn. Simple as that =/
Both you and Ronhrin are far more intelligent then average, even relative to a superior demographic vis-à-vis the population of a high computer literacy niche; such as this forum, which will have a mean about 10 points higher then the global.
You say the only reason for a lack of expertise is that most people are too lazy to learn, but would you say the same thing about subjects such as Astrophysics or Molecular Biology? That the primary limitation on mastery is the laziness of an individual?
Maybe learning new systems of data dynamics comes easily to you, but not to everyone.
Actually I only have an IQ of 105. Been measured multiple times, it always lands on 103-105 so I don't think there's much room for dispute there.
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You say the only reason for a lack of expertise is that most people are too lazy to learn, but would you say the same thing about subjects such as Astrophysics or Molecular Biology? That the primary limitation on mastery is the laziness of an individual?
You bring up a good point, and I really don't have a good answer.
I'm not interested enough to sit down and learn Astrophysics or Molecular Biology, but I am pretty sure that if I applied myself and worked hard I would be able to master it. But I'm too lazy to, because I am not interested enough.
See where I am going with this? It is within my capabilities, but I still choose not to do it.
Don't put too much significance into what you've scored in some random online IQ test, I've actually worked in psychometrics for a short time and I consider myself a good judge of an individuals intellect. I'm not going to claim any numbers, since without meeting you face to face it is difficult to assess your ability to problem solve in real time.
Suffice to say I am certain I am not the only one who recognises you as one of the more intelligent members of the forum, and I have respect for your opinion, especially on certain topics.
I don't know how familiar you are with the more advanced concepts of Astrophysics or Molecular Biology, but they are way beyond most people. You being confident you could master either subject with sufficient motivation is quite clear evidence that you have a (grounded) faith in your capacity to understand complex systems. That kind of faith is usually reasonably commensurate with ability in the non-deluded. You are not deluded...
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
Don't put too much significance into what you've scored in some random online IQ test, I've actually worked in psychometrics for a short time and I consider myself a good judge of an individuals intellect. I'm not going to claim any numbers, since without meeting you face to face it is difficult to assess your ability to problem solve in real time.
Suffice to say I am certain I am not the only one who recognises you as one of the more intelligent members of the forum, and I have respect for your opinion, especially on certain topics.
I don't know how familiar you are with the more advanced concepts of Astrophysics or Molecular Biology, but they are way beyond most people. You being confident you could master either subject with sufficient motivation is quite clear evidence that you have a (grounded) faith in your capacity to understand complex systems. That kind of faith is usually reasonably commensurate with ability in the non-deluded. You are not deluded...
Concerning my situation, I actually haven't made an IQ test in a while (a couple of years), I never gave them that much of a credibility because the way I perceive it, there are many more aspects to a persons intellect than the ability to problem solve a given problem in the fastest amount of time, a great percentage of the great masters of science, people which we inherently consider as geniuses, could have considerable average IQ test scores and yet some of them completely changed our collective interpretation of our physical reality.
Furthermore, the IQ tests that I have done in the past had completely abnormal results, I cannot recall exactly the type or designation of the tests I made at the time, but I had some ranking me with scores as low as 120's and others as high as 160's.
About my learning process, as you're probably already aware I haven't submitted to what is referred as higher education, not because I don't have a passion for learning (which I do), but because I've always found public education monotonous and pointless, I can safely say that even during my school years, I have consistently learned more on my own, by reading books, internet and so forth, than the whole process of public education itself.
The topics for which I have a higher lust for knowledge are Astrophysics and Quantum Mechanics, I'm a great enthusiast in learning and even refuting the nature and mechanics of our physical reality, as you might already be aware, I have some foundations for a thesis which counters the current lambda CDM cosmological model and the whole concept of a big bang theory and a expanding universe, but I have yet to apply some math seriously to this thesis.
I'm currently devouring all lectures that I can find on youtube and other sites, by my count I should have already some 200 hours or more of watching high quality online university lectures alone, not counting with research of some topics discussed and some exercises that I do on my own, of course it doesn't come with a certificate, but as you might be aware, I just don't give a crap to social recognition certified by a shred of paper, I know I'm more qualified that many people with a PhD, I don't plan to use my learning process socially, if I learn is because I crave for knowledge and understanding, not because I want a pat on the back and someone referring to me by a meaningless social status.
Also, how you can clearly see in my signature, I spend a whole lot of time discussing with people about the foundations of the State and how it's ultimately a barrier to social progress and the true cause of the great majority of all social problems currently afflicting Humanity.
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither
- Benjamin Franklin - 1759
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Also, if you have a decent starting investnment, say $2000+, Arbitrage methods (which are always risk free) can make you over $50 a day/$100 a day, only doing 1 or 2 arbitrage bets a day!
If you're interested I can show you some details
Arbitrage is pretty much dead these days, bookmakers aren't stupid and they know about sites like betfair (well, betfair is pretty much the only one with decent liquidity on most events) - even if you can find a small edge, Betfair's commission usually ends up eating the profit, or at least large enough part of it that it makes everything not worth the hassle (there are MANY pitfalls and possible problems with the concept and putting it into practice, after all).
It's still possible, sure, just that you're not quaranteed to find even 1 good arbitrage bet a day.
arbforum is a good place to start reading if you are interested, plenty of other sites out there as well.
Oh and Ron, have you managed to finish a lot of sign-up bonuses? On a lot of sites' terms you see can see Portugal on the list of countries not eligible, must be thanks to that double-betting community the portuguese have had for quite a while.
I thourght these random generators had a corrolation length far beyond anything worth thinking about. If they change the seed every time wouldn't it be impossible to "guess" the numbers?
AM wrote that his chances depend on wether he chooses his numbers random or sequentially. Why would that matter?
Also, if you have a decent starting investnment, say $2000+, Arbitrage methods (which are always risk free) can make you over $50 a day/$100 a day, only doing 1 or 2 arbitrage bets a day!
If you're interested I can show you some details
Arbitrage is pretty much dead these days, bookmakers aren't stupid and they know about sites like betfair (well, betfair is pretty much the only one with decent liquidity on most events) - even if you can find a small edge, Betfair's commission usually ends up eating the profit, or at least large enough part of it that it makes everything not worth the hassle (there are MANY pitfalls and possible problems with the concept and putting it into practice, after all).
It's still possible, sure, just that you're not quaranteed to find even 1 good arbitrage bet a day.
arbforum is a good place to start reading if you are interested, plenty of other sites out there as well.
Oh and Ron, have you managed to finish a lot of sign-up bonuses? On a lot of sites' terms you see can see Portugal on the list of countries not eligible, must be thanks to that double-betting community the portuguese have had for quite a while.
Arbitrage is still very possible and profitable to make a steady income, you just have to be fast and enter an arbitrage opportunity usually within 10-20 minutes after it becomes available, usually after this time, the price will fluctuate and the arbitrage will no longer be profitable, second, arbitrage is not even done in betfair (well, it can be), but the great majority of opportunities exist only between bookies, usually covering all possible outcomes of an event in 2 or 3 different bookies, sometimes even more.
I don't know if you're aware of this, but there are currently services which show you hundreds of arbitrage opportunities every day, they are paid of course, but trust me, it's worth it!
As far as bonus whoring goes, there are still a considerable amount of bonus available here in Portugal, but in all honesty, it's not exactly because my country is not eligible for a bonus that I cannot apply for it, first thing to understand is that actually not all bookies will ask for identification, and some bookies will only ask occasionally, and secondly there are always ways to circumvent this, first thing to understand is that most bonus are usually between $50 and $500, and that in the event of your money is locked in a house, if you have a large enough bank, you just keep in counter betting in betfair until all money passes from the bookie into betfair, second solution, outsource the process of identification, and believe me, people will sell you their ID for as low as $20, third option, Photoshop can do wonderful things, and I can tell you, as much as people will advise you not to submit fake IDs, you will have no problems doing it, but you can always protect yourself by using proxies and deposit your money through virtual credit cards or virtual bank accounts as to remain fully anonymous!
I honestly prefer arbitrage because the whole process is far more less time consuming, but I also do some trading occasionally here and there, and my risk is always highly controlled when compared with my possible revenue.
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither
- Benjamin Franklin - 1759
Yeah I've noticed them of course, I just always figured that if they really are decent, the bookmakers will inevitably pick up on it... What kind of profit margins in general do their arbs have (I assume you've tried several)?
But yeah, trading is fun, with a proper app it's like a kids' version of currency markets.
Yeah I've noticed them of course, I just always figured that if they really are decent, the bookmakers will inevitably pick up on it... What kind of profit margins in general do their arbs have (I assume you've tried several)?
But yeah, trading is fun, with a proper app it's like a kids' version of currency markets.
On average arbitrage gives me a profit margin of between 3% and 4%, and I honestly don't advise people to enter in arbitrages above 6%, because it can be a bookie error and the arb be invalidated, which would require you to rapidly encounter other bookie with the same event at lower prices which would end up in a loss, but this is only to keep it safe, I'm also aware that there were some successful arbs at over 10% profit, some even as high as 18%
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither
- Benjamin Franklin - 1759
I heard recently on my local Toronto news (CityTV/CP24 for you Torontonians?) that u have more of a chance of being struck by lightning more than once than ever winning the lottery...
If there was a way to cheat, some genius already would have...
So #people struck/ total number of people? Quite a rough estimate. Anyway comparing something where you know the exact probabillity with something like being struck by lightning seems odd to me.
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