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ixigia
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Jan 2011 17:46    Post subject:
Overlord123 wrote:
ixigia wrote:
Overlord123 wrote:

I thought it has been made clear that how moddable a game is, does not depend on the middleware being used?


You're telling me that using a derivative of Gamebryo and using a completely new engine is the same thing in terms of modding? (I'm referring to the time windows directly following the release of the game, not long-term modding).

The graphics engine used has nothing to do with how moddable a game is (apart from what texture format etc. is used maybe), it's how the devs design the rest of the game engine. one could use the unreal engine and still add this kind of modding possibilities. In fact the gamebryo engine does not come with this out-of-the-box, the devs have to add this themselves.
Just look at Divinity 2: it uses Gamebryo but is hardly as moddable as Beth's games are, if it is at all.
A list of games that use gamebryo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamebryo#Industry_use


Yup this is 100% correct, in fact Divinity 2 had (if I can recall correctly) just a couple of texture mods and nothing else, and DKS will probably be "forever mods-less" Razz
What I meant is; with an engine which is a derivative of GameBryo the modding community could benefit of this situation and use their vaste knowledge to create interesting mods right after the release of the game (assuming that Bethesda won't act like a cunt making things hard, but I guess it's not the case) Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Jan 2011 13:38    Post subject:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/01/13/road-to-skyrim-the-todd-howard-interview.aspx

lol @ equating Ultima's reboot every game with TES.

Adding to the game vs removing

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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Jan 2011 16:31    Post subject:
http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1160177-creation-engine-and-kit/page__p__17019742#entry17019742
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r3dshift




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Jan 2011 17:22    Post subject:
Skyrim: The Time-Lapse Video (nah, it ain't gameplay...)
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/01/18/skyrim-the-time-lapse-art-video.aspx
Nice music.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Jan 2011 17:24    Post subject:
Great news that they still include editors!

shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Jan 2011 18:23    Post subject:
screenshots (not scanned) or gamplay video when?
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Jan 2011 18:38    Post subject:
July 17th, 2011 4:42 PM CST

See ya!
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Jan 2011 20:36    Post subject:
oakwind wrote:
http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1160177-creation-engine-and-kit/page__p__17019742#entry17019742
W00t!
Now if only the console lol wut 's would shut the hell up with "Y U NO MAEK CONSTRUCTION SET FOR MAH CONSOLE?" and "Y U NO PUT FREE MODS IN MARKETPLACE FOR ME TO BUY?"...

boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 15:16    Post subject:
I just hope to god they replaced that damn "Can my friend work here?" Animator, as well as hire more than 5 voice actors barring the token B/C/D-List celeb. Other than that, I just hope this thing wont be a lagfest like every gamebryo Beth game, I really REALLY hope this new engine will make up for all that.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 15:42    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 16:47    Post subject:
I don't think I've seen Epsilion rage this much about any title before. Good stuff tho!
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 16:54    Post subject:
You should check out the Fallout 3 thread... hehehe. Epsi was definitely NOT happy with Fallout 3 compared to the proper FO titles Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 16:55    Post subject:
jackasshole wrote:
I don't think I've seen Epsilion rage this much about any title before. Good stuff tho!
Fallout 3 thread says hi.Cool Face

EDIT: GRRRRRRRRR Mad

boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 16:55    Post subject:
Tonizito
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 16:56    Post subject:
What about the Arcania thread? Laughing
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 16:57    Post subject:
Well Arcania was totally understandable Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 17:01    Post subject:
I love when an RPG comes out, I watch the thread just to see the vein pop in epsilon's forehead Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 17:18    Post subject:
I never been a fan of the elder Scrolls games, but with a new engine and Viking like setting, suddenly I'm VERY interested Very Happy TOTAL VIKING POWER!!!! Very Happy

"Sometimes when you do things right, people are not sure you've done anything at all." -- God (Futurama)
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 17:19    Post subject:
SKÃ…L!!
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 17:27    Post subject:
This time around there should be a whole village of naked nord barbarians that have been bewitched by some foul coven of witches, so much so that they got enchanted out of their clothes and lost their axes, too.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 17:29    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
SKÃ…L!!

SHOW ME YOUR HONOR!

Laughing
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BLOOD AND THUNDER!!
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 17:30    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
SKÃ…L!!


SKÃ…L FOR HELVETE!!!!

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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 17:50    Post subject:
maul_inc wrote:
I never been a fan of the elder Scrolls games, but with a new engine and Viking like setting, suddenly I'm VERY interested Very Happy TOTAL VIKING POWER!!!! Very Happy


Same here Laughing. I just couldn't get into that lore which is very rich, but somehow really boring too (for me, of course). I played Nehrim for a couple of hours and it's completely different, reminds me more of the Gothic games which I always prefered over the TES games.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 18:06    Post subject:
As one who grew up on the likes of Wizardry, Lands of Lore, Realms of Arkania, Might and Magic and yes The Elder Scrolls, it seems like I spent my youth playing and understanding lego technic - with a wealth of possibilities thats near limitless.
And then now, all thats served is fisherprice and I obviously think thats shit compared to what I'm used to.
But then theres all these toddlers who grew up thinking that Zelda is an RPG. And now that they've discovered fisherprice, they think it's the best thing since slice bread as it's so pretty and accessible Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 18:11    Post subject:
<3 We love you Epsi! <3
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 18:47    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
As one who grew up on the likes of Wizardry, Lands of Lore, Realms of Arkania, Might and Magic and yes The Elder Scrolls, it seems like I spent my youth playing and understanding lego technic - with a wealth of possibilities thats near limitless.
And then now, all thats served is fisherprice and I obviously think thats shit compared to what I'm used to.
But then theres all these toddlers who grew up thinking that Zelda is an RPG. And now that they've discovered fisherprice, they think it's the best thing since slice bread as it's so pretty and accessible Evil or Very Mad


I grew up playing Zelda, but I went back and played the Baldurs gate games, I guess this gives me just enough Derp to have loved Oblivion, but enough taste to also enjoy a good RPG.. Hybrids will inherit the earth
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 18:48    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
As one who grew up on the likes of Wizardry, Lands of Lore, Realms of Arkania, Might and Magic and yes The Elder Scrolls, it seems like I spent my youth playing and understanding lego technic - with a wealth of possibilities thats near limitless.
And then now, all thats served is fisherprice and I obviously think thats shit compared to what I'm used to.
But then theres all these toddlers who grew up thinking that Zelda is an RPG. And now that they've discovered fisherprice, they think it's the best thing since slice bread as it's so pretty and accessible Evil or Very Mad


That was amazingly said.

Remember when the Japanese started making Wizardry spinoffs? Just started going downhill from there. Some of them were ok I suppose.

Edit:

Now that you mention it, a few months ago I had to correct my friend and explain to him why Zelda is not an RPG.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 18:57    Post subject:
Indeed, Zelda is a shooter. Might even be considered a swordfighting simulator.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 19:45    Post subject:
Zelda is a nice action adventure type of game!
Replaying Morrowind atm. Gonna do heavily modded Oblivion next. And then I'll do Daggerfall damn it. Way too long since I last played Daggerfall.

sabin1981 wrote:
Now you're just arguing semantics. Getting fucked in the ass with a broom stale is an "improvement" over getting stabbed in the eye with a fork Rolling Eyes
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