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| Amiet01 wrote: | And can't you just get a program to mount the mini-image that is not blacklisted by starforce? And wasn't it that other games could be mounted by Daemon tools and Alcohol 120% after a newer version of the programs because they weren't blacklisted anymore?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
And if you have to get an external DVD-Player you could for the same money just buy the game. |
Yup, but still there isnt newer versions of Alcohol 120% AND Daemon tools though d-tools' newer version is expected very soon
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 20:57 Post subject: |
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So we can wait for a new version of the programs or we can wait for a crack. I think it's not going to take much time before we can play a downloaded version.
BTW when is that new version of d-tools coming out?
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 21:12 Post subject: |
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Could anyone with the CLONE mind raring up their /system/ directory and uploading it somewhere? I would like to take a look at the protection without having to download the whole game.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 22:37 Post subject: |
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Is the new version of alcohol 120% (1.9.5.2802) also blacklisted? This version is released 3 april 2005.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 23:02 Post subject: |
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Stupid idea,
what if take exe from SC demo and put it to the full version?
Or something like that?.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 23:05 Post subject: |
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Yeah I was thinking of the same thing too, but I don't think it could work because the game code is different.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 23:34 Post subject: |
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Already tried some of that stuff, but it ends up with some errors.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 23:58 Post subject: |
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Is the new version of alcohol 120% (1.9.5.2802) also blacklisted? This version is released 3 april 2005.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 00:17 Post subject: |
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| Amiet01 wrote: | | Is the new version of alcohol 120% (1.9.5.2802) also blacklisted? This version is released 3 april 2005. |
sure it is
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SycoShaman
VIP Master Jedi
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Location: Toronto, Canada
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 01:01 Post subject: |
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No one reads the posts eh?
To everyone who keeps asking, for Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory u need the following:
USB 2.0 (not 1.1) External Dvd Drive or IDE to USB adapter casing or cords only
U need a speific mdf file that is 38Kb - doesnt matter what "version" u have (all the same retail shit)
High Precision DPM File and u gotta burn it with RMPS at 1x with latest alcohol version
There's no mini image trick, crack, emulation tool etc that will work
Its very specific
All above info is taken from various msg boards (nforce, cdfreak, german sites, isonews etc). Every site that appears when u do a google search in relation to this crack has the EXACT same info on it.
and StarForce Nightmare/Starfuck doesn't work
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 01:35 Post subject: |
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SycoShaman
VIP Master Jedi
Posts: 24468
Location: Toronto, Canada
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 01:40 Post subject: |
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Nuke russia? ....damn, they have the most nukes/chems/bio weps in the world all just waiting to be used or discarded....I could be wrong mind u. I know they have way more than the US - and US is up there in terms of Weapons of MAss Destruction...ironic really
"we can have em, but everyone else cant"
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DVQ
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Location: Mexico
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 01:44 Post subject: |
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i bet all will be over with the appearing of Blue-Ray and HD-DVD, think about downloading 15 gb for only one movie. think about the expensive media. think about the BlueRay Burners. or HD-DVD burners. i dont want to be pesimist but maybe in a future this scene thing is going to end.
the only thing in our favor is that maybe the internet ISP will provide a much better connection in the future... and downloading 20 gb in one night will be possible. but the economy as is, is a lil bit hard to think.
maybe with the future a master-mind will appear and say: "hey i can crack all type of protection schemes!". lol that was just stupid.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 03:39 Post subject: |
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| DVQ wrote: | | the only thing in our favor is that maybe the internet ISP will provide a much better connection in the future... and downloading 20 gb in one night will be possible. but the economy as is, is a lil bit hard to think. |
Well I can download 20 gigabytes in one night easily... I'm sure the rest of the world will have reached that speed too in just a few years. That should be about the time it takes for BlueRay/HD-DVD to take root and games starts to come out in those formats.
(Though this is quite far off-topic...)
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DVQ
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 03:48 Post subject: |
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i just can download max 7 gb per night  . ok stop kidnapping the thread 
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sTo0z
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 04:28 Post subject: |
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Please keep the chatter on-topic, thanks.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 11:12 Post subject: |
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And when is alcohol-soft or d-tools coming with a new version that is not blacklisted? Otherwise I think we are going to wait a whole lot of time at a crack for SCCT.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 11:31 Post subject: |
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If ever.
This is a very bad sign for our community. If Splinter Cell stays uncracked for a so long time it means we are facing a serious problem. Remember that scene owns the games much faster than stores do, especially so known titles.
The second problem is Starforce broomrape diffusion. Game publishers see everything. Certainly they notice "accidents" like Splinter Cell and most of them will switch to this protection within short time. They will not carry about incompatiblity of this shit and software problems. They will use it because they do not carry about customers but money only.
Even if Splinter Cell will be cracked after a time (Ultima again?) then what if other publishers join Starforce broomrape? Who will be able to crack them?
In my humble opinion there are two choices:
1. Reloaded joins Hoodlum (or reverse if you like) and works on the solution for Starforce. They do not have to work as one group. They could work on Starforce together sharing knowledge - that might speed up its cracking.
2. Ultima exposes to the scene and reveal Starforce virtual machine details.
Just my ideas (I bought the game alrady but am wondering about the future).
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 11:44 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Or 3. The Scene will be dead... |
that would be like world without air
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 11:54 Post subject: |
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Sorry for going off topic, but does anyone know the name/location of the program that cleans all traces of starforce off a pc? I think it was called starclean or something but ive lost it now.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 12:07 Post subject: |
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I downloaded some tool like this from Starforce website. Try it.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 12:43 Post subject: |
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and again from the most peeps here that think they know the scene : U all talk horse shit lol , like scene be dead cause 1 game isnt cracked lol , but when they crack SF u get another idiot that post a thread with ... has cracked SF weeeeh yaaaaah oooow my god they cracked it yaaah , and when the next game doesnt show that has SF its : o the scene is almost dead cause they didnt cracked it yet blah blah blah . anyway i always have alot of fun reading alot of bullshit here from people that actualy know the scene but when they download they do it from there l33t P2P shit cause they think thats the scene .
just my thought so whatever u reply on it in a flaming way : I DONT CARE
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 12:46 Post subject: |
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hehe no flaming here, I can only agree
I used to suck dicks for coke
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 12:53 Post subject: |
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| ShadowX wrote: | and again from the most peeps here that think they know the scene : U all talk horse shit lol , like scene be dead cause 1 game isnt cracked lol , but when they crack SF u get another idiot that post a thread with ... has cracked SF weeeeh yaaaaah oooow my god they cracked it yaaah , and when the next game doesnt show that has SF its : o the scene is almost dead cause they didnt cracked it yet blah blah blah . anyway i always have alot of fun reading alot of bullshit here from people that actualy know the scene but when they download they do it from there l33t P2P shit cause they think thats the scene .
just my thought so whatever u reply on it in a flaming way : I DONT CARE |
It's not just one game... Every not cracked game is a step towards the scene's death... Just imagine if every Publisher woud start using SF3, and not just the weak one... but the strongest one of all the options... Crackers woudn't be able to crack anything... No Cracks=No PC ISO Scene...
I know it's almost impossile... Crackers will always be able to crack protections... because if something can be created it can be also destroyed... but the time cracking SF3 takes is very, very long... They have to figure out a new way to do it... otherwise in future you will see 1 game release every 2 months...
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 13:17 Post subject: |
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| bigboy177 wrote: | | ShadowX wrote: | and again from the most peeps here that think they know the scene : U all talk horse shit lol , like scene be dead cause 1 game isnt cracked lol , but when they crack SF u get another idiot that post a thread with ... has cracked SF weeeeh yaaaaah oooow my god they cracked it yaaah , and when the next game doesnt show that has SF its : o the scene is almost dead cause they didnt cracked it yet blah blah blah . anyway i always have alot of fun reading alot of bullshit here from people that actualy know the scene but when they download they do it from there l33t P2P shit cause they think thats the scene .
just my thought so whatever u reply on it in a flaming way : I DONT CARE |
It's not just one game... Every not cracked game is a step towards the scene's death... Just imagine if every Publisher woud start using SF3, and not just the weak one... but the strongest one of all the options... Crackers woudn't be able to crack anything... No Cracks=No PC ISO Scene...
I know it's almost impossile... Crackers will always be able to crack protections... because if something can be created it can be also destroyed... but the time cracking SF3 takes is very, very long... They have to figure out a new way to do it... otherwise in future you will see 1 game release every 2 months... |
you are missing one little thing: daemon and alcohol developers are working real hard to make starforce perfectly clonable, as you can clone and burn/mount safedisc 4 and securom 7.
daemon next version, called Daemon tools v 4.0 (i underline that the latest daemon tools version is v3.47) will be a huge step forward.
and btw, i'm convinced that someone is already working to bring the old good minimage trick back using the usb drive hole... just a starforce-nightmare-like tool that emulate the presence of a usb drive
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 13:17 Post subject: |
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Probably ShadowX, as the scene guru, didn't notice (or don't want to notice) how many main developers and publishers started to use Starforce. Codemasters, Team17, CDV and Ubisoft are only examples, but wait a second... The Mighty ShadowX knows about it, right?
| Quote: | | Just imagine if every Publisher woud start using SF3, and not just the weak one |
Why you expect him to be able to do so complex things like imagination? He isn't even able to count. Golden sentence: "U all talk horse shit lol , like scene be dead cause 1 game isnt cracked lol" - man, what year shows your calendar? Wake up, "leet" jabber...
"the scene is almost dead cause they didnt cracked it yet " - it's really good moment for you to wake up or take some drugs. Where did you see "scene is almost dead" sentence? Where're you typing from? Hospital?
| Quote: | | i always have alot of fun reading alot of bullshit here |
Without you Nforce wouldn't be the same. Thank you for being here, champion.
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