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ok i have a quad, quite possible that that helps 
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2010 15:58 Post subject: |
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| JackQ wrote: | | I'm definitely not buying it,Ubisoft is in my boycotting list and everyone else should do it,IMO.this awful DRM need to die. |
No worries, there will always be some pussy sellouts with no morals that would throw cash at Ubisoft.  |
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2010 18:14 Post subject: |
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Well...
Though I do somewhat hate the damn protection (It can be problematic at times but later games are a bit refined, should patch the older games however but that won't happen.) but I like the games (So far at least.) and support good products (Though I end up buying a lot of weird stuff as well, Mark Leung Revenge of the Bitch for example.) but I'd had hoped earlier games would have been retired from said protection now after a few months to a year but it seems it won't happen despite server related costs and maintenance and the like.
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2010 18:22 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2010 19:30 Post subject: |
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| JBeckman wrote: | Well...
Though I do somewhat hate the damn protection (It can be problematic at times but later games are a bit refined, should patch the older games however but that won't happen.) but I like the games (So far at least.) and support good products (Though I end up buying a lot of weird stuff as well, Mark Leung Revenge of the Bitch for example.) but I'd had hoped earlier games would have been retired from said protection now after a few months to a year but it seems it won't happen despite server related costs and maintenance and the like. |
and yet to this day they didn't released a patch that would remove SF from King Kong to be able to play this in Vista or Win7  i had to burn a 360 version just to be able to replay it ... and no RLD crack doesn't work because it uses a hole in the SF 3.5 drivers and those does not work in those Oses
so yeah your fucked |
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2010 20:06 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | so yeah your fucked |
yep we are all fully fucked but fortunately still there are the consolle and many pc games are just porting shit. RELOADED and scene don't know how to start to crack the UBI protection. maybe russian SUXROW p2p repackers as usual will be able to release a fully raped and nuked crap with a UBI server loader and 100000 crackfix. you will have to check here for updates
http://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewforum.php?f=10
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2010 20:20 Post subject: |
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King Kong also had the weirdest CE of all time though, was necessary if you wanted the most of the game, called "Gamer edition" or some such.
And yeah Star-Force 3 to 3.5 where far more problematic and prone to bugs and other issues, 4 to 4.5 made major improvements and 5.x even removed the reboot requirements and lessened the driver intrusiveness by a large amount plus gave a activation based alternative without timers or disc re-checks periodically though overall I don't like Star-Force very much, developers behind it are pretty arrogant and support is difficult.
(SecuROM is no real issue and Tages doesn't really provide support directly so they're a bit so-so.)
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2010 20:53 Post subject: |
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| JBeckman wrote: | | King Kong also had the weirdest CE of all time though, was necessary if you wanted the most of the game, called "Gamer edition" or some such. |
| Quote: | The Xbox 360 release featured improved graphics and audio over the sixth generation console releases. The PC download version (known as the "Gamer's Edition", no longer available) also included these improved features.
The "Special Edition" version of the game was available for a limited time. Along with the two standard game discs, included are: A bonus disc, containing concept art and a screensaver; and a making-of disc, containing a featurette with Peter Jackson. There was an error in the printing of the discs and the disc labelled "Making of" was actually the "Bonus" disc and vice-versa. The signature edition also comes with a Topps trading card of King Kong, a code for a downloadable ringtone, and a cover signed by Peter Jackson. |
in other words the first PC version was a Xbox 1 port when the CE version was a 360 port with better graphics...and well when i play it now on my 360 i can say yeah the graphics are better on 360 !!!  a ubisoft fuck you with your awful pc ports , hey at lest 360 version doesn't kill my dvd drive with its SF |
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2010 21:02 Post subject: |
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And performance on the so called "SE" version was hilariously bad. Last time I tried it, I don't remember exactly, but I think it was on the 8800GTX and it ran like a complete shit for some added bloom and "higher" res texture (128x128 -> 256x256)
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2010 21:05 Post subject: |
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AC2 ran flawless with my HD4850.
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2010 21:55 Post subject: |
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Just Cause 1 PC was the Xbox version as well. 360 had "next-gen" graphics.
Tomb Raider Legend PC, defaulted to the Xbox shaders and textures but had an option that enabled the "next-gen" graphics of the 360.. with astonishingly bad framerate at anything less than a 8800 card.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2010 21:58 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | Tomb Raider Legend PC, defaulted to the Xbox shaders and textures but had an option that enabled the "next-gen" graphics of the 360.. with astonishingly bad framerate at anything less than a 8800 card. |
Yep, the TRL engine was really awful. On the other hand, they did a splendid job with the Underworld engine. It runs a lot smoother than TRL engine as well. |
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2010 21:58 Post subject: |
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^
Legend runs fine on my laptop with GMA 945.
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2010 21:59 Post subject: |
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| JanKowalski82 wrote: | ^
Legend runs fine on my laptop with GMA 945. |
Not in "next-gen" () mode. What you are running "fine" is the PS2/Xbox version, which also looks nice, but nowhere near the 360 graphics (or even better, TRU). |
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Dec 2010 00:26 Post subject: |
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toms.hardware is only showing the PC version and the PC ehem Next-gen version but if you could just see the true 360 version of Legend DAMN i was in shock ... i mean come on why the fuck are you releasing a half assed bad graphically version on a superior PC ... was this a marketing trick to show that 360 is SO UBER HD lulz just to sell more units
edit: here you go a true comparison in HD from real ps2 and 360 hardware
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ps2-vs-tomb-raider/10008
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Dec 2010 09:51 Post subject: |
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This kinda reminds me of difference between between Dragon Age on low and medium/high.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2010 15:45 Post subject: |
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Sadly, I think it's the latter one.. 
(They are still somewhat convinced that DRM is useful to combat 0-day piracy).
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2010 15:54 Post subject: |
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But there's less restrictive DRM that has 100% success rate in combating 0 day piracy as well (SteamWorks).
They want to protect their games for as long as possible, not only before or 1 day after the release.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2010 16:08 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | DRM that has 100% success rate in combating 0 day piracy as well (SteamWorks). |
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2010 16:17 Post subject: |
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Well it's true 
Apart from the odd game like F.E.A.R. 2 that wasn't properly protected or Mafia 2 where a demo exe was used, Steam's DRM where the exe is missing and files are encrypted is unbeatable, as long as the game hasn't been released yet.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2010 16:35 Post subject: |
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Isn't that "-1 day release"? Isn't 0-day the same day as release? Or is that 1-day release? 
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2010 16:44 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2010 17:57 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | Isn't that "-1 day release"? Isn't 0-day the same day as release? Or is that 1-day release? |
I think Valve uses both 0-day and day-1 to describe the same thing:
http://kotaku.com/5051514/steam-drm-vs-spore-drm
| Quote: | Lombardi, and others I spoke to off the record, say that at least for digitally downloaded PC games, DRM and copy protection is here to stay. For Valve the biggest push is to lock down those "zero day" pirates. Day zero is the time between when a game goes gold and when it is available for purchase. Lombardi, and many others, are convinced that that's when a bulk of piracy occurs.
"That's the biggest problem," he said. "I'd be willing to guess that well over 50 percent of piracy occurs then."
"I think our solution solves the game zero piracy." |
http://www.steampowered.com/steamworks/publishingservices.php
| Quote: | 2. Retail Encryption
Protect your day-one release by shipping encrypted media to stores world-wide. No need to worry that your game will leak from a replicator or stock room - your game stays encrypted until the moment you decide to release it. |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2010 18:01 Post subject: |
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Well I always thought of it as "0-days passed since release"
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