[PS3] Gran Turismo 5
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Dec 2010 21:16    Post subject:
i'm pretty sure some ppl who have basic 3dmax skills could've done better in modeling department than big company like polyphony Rolling Eyes
hell pumpy would done better that's for damn sure

u accepted no cockpit and crappy looking standards just coz u were waiting for this game for that long that u would forgive any undone parts of it just so u can play it Wink

will update enable soft-shadows as well? Cool Face
srsly doubt that Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Dec 2010 21:28    Post subject:
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Sorry but I think you (Ispep) are a fanboy, trying to defend every negative point about GT5.... Do you have a 360 ftw ?

I'm definitely not a fanboy, I'm just happy and enthusiastic to talk about GT5 even if it means responding to intentionally trollish comments and coming across like one in the process. If you can't tell the difference then that's more an indication of how bad this forum has become than how much of a fanboy I am (which is not a lot).

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i'm pretty sure some ppl who have basic 3dmax skills could've done better in modeling department than big company like polyphony

I'm sure they could, but would it run on the PS3? Embarassed

Anyways.









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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Dec 2010 22:05    Post subject:
why wouldn't it? i just don't believe ps3 using all 8 core with gt5, result not properly optimized after 5 years of hype
it's not like it has to scale 100 square km with 100 active ai, it's a god damn racing game with bunch of cars on a track, look how great games can look on ps3 ; Uncharted, GoW etc and they have to scale more than 5 km of a race track with bunch of trees which are in 2d Embarassed

anyway
u can post as many still images with maxed aa as u won't it won't change original look of the game, unless of cours it's all u care about Razz
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chris1979233




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Dec 2010 22:28    Post subject:
Lmfao i was driving some car (prius) i think i 'm thinking this is a shit car.. i was in manual transmission forgot to alter settings Laughing
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Ispep
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Dec 2010 22:37    Post subject:
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why wouldn't it?

Because it's not just about having the highest detailed models, they need to be properly optimised for the game in terms of both performance cost and artistic sensibility. GT5 has not only the highest detailed cars running in both real-time gameplay and photo-mode, but the industry standard when it comes to photorealism. If it were so easy to duplicate why are there only pretenders to the throne?

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u can post as many still images

Gee, thanks. It's a habit of mine, play the game, take photos, upload from PS3, post on forum. I didn't realise there was a law against posting your own photos Laughing

...

Anyway, a new GT sponsored wheel coming to the market. Shifter sold separately;





Doesn't feature the twiddly bits which is disappointing since they are the coolest part about the DFGT (could still be on the shifter I guess), but the pedals look pretty cool. Be interesting to see whether it's any good though.




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Dec 2010 22:40    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
i'm pretty sure some ppl who have basic 3dmax skills could've done better in modeling department than big company like polyphony :roll:
hell pumpy would done better that's for damn sure

u accepted no cockpit and crappy looking standards just coz u were waiting for this game for that long that u would forgive any undone parts of it just so u can play it ;)

will update enable soft-shadows as well? :face:
srsly doubt that :lol:



I accepted no cockpit and crappy looking standards coz there is actually more to this game than that, and there's parts that are actually fucking good. I don't enjoy the problems but they are here to stay (some of em anyway) so should I just throw the game away simply because there is a few aspects of it that aren't as good as I hoped they would be?

If anything I'm stumped that you seem to only see the problems of the game and absolutely ignore everything it does right. You think forza is perfect? you think ANY game is perfect? Every game has issues. GT5 is no exception.
Do you condemn the game just because it has been in development longer than other games? Has it been long enough to be worthless unless it is perfect? At what point do you say 'this game has been in development for X years so clearly it should be perfect when it's released and if it's not it's FUCKING BULLSHIT'?

I just don't understand you, Mortibus.

This is probably just gonna provoke another meaningless answer from you as that's all you seem to post in here, but I thought I'd give it a try anyway.


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Dec 2010 23:19    Post subject:
exactly, it's been in development for 5 years and it should've been perfect, considering how hyped it was by sony, hell many ppl bought ps3 just coz of it and had to wait till it got released 3 years later after it was anounced, instead they got some demo called prologue to feed the hunger for the price of the full game and get some cash while end result wasn't so different with exactly same flaws, bad looking shadows and no damage or get some damage till u play 100 of hours, what kinda bs is that? Laughing

while forza 3 had it's flaws like no animation of gear change which was fixed with the patch later, it never promised something it never delivered

now if u think my answer is meaningless u go a head and ignore it Wink
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Dec 2010 23:26    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Dec 2010 23:28    Post subject:
and replays Cool Face
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Dec 2010 23:34    Post subject:
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Turns out the best part of the game is Photo Mode Razz

Well of course, who cares about driving in a driving "simulator" or car physics or quality consistency, when you have a photo mode that runs in 15fps and looks so good*?

*With selected camera angles with premium cars only.

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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Dec 2010 23:36    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 01:38    Post subject:
Oh noes, useless trollz Sad

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Turns out the best part of the game is Photo Mode

It's not the best part, but it's certainly entertaining in its own right. A game within a game if you will.











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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 01:50    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
i'm pretty sure some ppl who have basic 3dmax skills could've done better in modeling department than big company like polyphony Rolling Eyes
hell pumpy would done better that's for damn sure

u accepted no cockpit and crappy looking standards just coz u were waiting for this game for that long that u would forgive any undone parts of it just so u can play it Wink

will update enable soft-shadows as well? Cool Face
srsly doubt that Laughing


There's really no other choice for PS3 users. The other racing games are basically... NFS. Crap.

What does "Accepting" entail? Yes I accept the shadows look like crap if you look at screenshots (personally when I'm racing I am not looking at shadows anyways though) but so what? Should I stop playing? Game is still fun FFS. In typical Japanese fashion there is too much emphasis on collecting things (cars) and grinding when they could have focused on more important aspects of the game.

Personally the graphics are a minor hindrance in comparison to the sometimes blatantly retarded AI (who will keep plowing into you after they spin you out on the racing line). Seriously... they didn't notice this when they were developing it or they didn't care? I'd gladly give up the 500 or whatever non premium cars for better AI... whoever decided you have to grind to level 20+ to get non-retarded AI needs to be smacked in the face and subsequently commit hara kiri for the shame he has caused his family Rolling Eyes Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 01:53    Post subject:
Some very nice shots there, Ispep, as usual Smile


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 01:59    Post subject:
oh yeah thank u for pointing the none existent ai, almost forgot about it, which will surely be fixed in a upcoming 2nd patch or is it 3rd since release
i wonder what would've happened if game came out as a multiplatform, coz usually ps3 game has so many patches only after it gets multi

i'm not even gonna talk about engine sounds, srsly, did they used them from gt4? coz cars sound pretty horrid compared to even forza and i wasn't half impressed with them

u call nfs crap, where ai seems to be more challenging than in gt5 and that was a quick 1 year buck, imagine if ea pulls their head out of their asses and let some dev's to make a game for at least 3 years, shift2 will bring some serious new stuff to the table and that's in 2 year of development Wink
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W123




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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 05:30    Post subject:
Yes. NFS is most definitely crap and has been crap for quite some time. GT5 is more about improving your lap times, and the tracks than it is about the AI. Hell, if you want you can give your car +400HP and the AI can't even keep up with you anyways.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 10:07    Post subject:
Jesus christ you all, how old are you? 12? Knock it off already, it was kinda funny the first 5 pages of bickering. Now its just ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 10:09    Post subject:
lol Mortibus...you sad troll..

i think you been on every page yet no positive comment?

leave? please. go play forza or why not NFS obviouly its got better AI and stuff lol wut
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 10:15    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
oh yeah thank u for pointing the none existent ai, almost forgot about it, which will surely be fixed in a upcoming 2nd patch or is it 3rd since release
i wonder what would've happened if game came out as a multiplatform, coz usually ps3 game has so many patches only after it gets multi

i'm not even gonna talk about engine sounds, srsly, did they used them from gt4? coz cars sound pretty horrid compared to even forza and i wasn't half impressed with them

u call nfs crap, where ai seems to be more challenging than in gt5 and that was a quick 1 year buck, imagine if ea pulls their head out of their asses and let some dev's to make a game for at least 3 years, shift2 will bring some serious new stuff to the table and that's in 2 year of development Wink


I don't understand why you are still posting in this thread Mortibus! Thing is most of your points are valid and everybody knows it, but if you get past the problems, gt5 is still a damn good game. i agree they should not have released this game until next year or atleast until the major bugs/missing content was fixed.

We all know you think gt5 sucks, you've told us enough times now, but not all of us do! so why don't you boot up your copy of Forza 3 and enjoy that Wink


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 10:42    Post subject:
Ispep wrote:
GT5 has not only the highest detailed cars running in both real-time gameplay and photo-mode, but the industry standard when it comes to photorealism.


I can't agree with you there. When it comes to features and lighting techniques even UE 3 comes out in front of the GT5 engine which imo has only two things going for it. Really high-poly cars and really nice reflections but lacks everything else or uses shortcuts to obtain the desired result ( which is never going to be as good as the real thing ). So no, GT5 is not the industry standard when it comes to photorealism ( and that's while ignoring the track-side graphics , which are crap )

Also , you ask why other games don't replicate the highly detailed cars . The answer is because they probably don't have the funds or the time that Polyphony Digital invested in this game. That and most other games are multi-platform so there's a bunch more limitations right there.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 11:19    Post subject:
WOW lot's of hate in this thread which all seems to be coming from people who haven't even played the game.

I think the games great. Best looking racer period. It plays fantastic as well. The driving is top notch which is what this game is actually about.

The only complaints that I have about it so far is the convoluted menu system and the terrible collision sounds. Other than that, it's a great game.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 11:21    Post subject:
point is, when a dev have put this much time into a game, it should be next to perfect... but its not.
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RMFX




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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 11:24    Post subject:
Point is, no game is ever perfect. Stop being so anal and try it. You might actually find that you really like it.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 11:41    Post subject:
Striving for perfection in a video game, albeit being a noble goal, is a sisyphean task.


EDIT: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/forza-3-gran-turismo/708122
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 15:53    Post subject:
Ishkur123 wrote:
EDIT: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/forza-3-gran-turismo/708122


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 16:24    Post subject:
don't be a sad troll me7 Rolling Eyes

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-gran-turismo/708090?type=flv#comments_top

epic damage is epic Razz

and here is review as well

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-gran-turismo/708090?type=flv

sheesh gt knows how to troll on several subjects Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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RMFX




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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 16:52    Post subject:
Nice review. Very honest and an equally honest score at the end. For those that don't realise it, 9/10 equals a great game.

The core gameplay delivers and IMO GT5 stomps all over Forza 3 both in terms of gameplay and visuals.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 17:01    Post subject:
pretty sure any other game with so many flaws would be given much lesser score, but of course $ony does have ca$h to spend Wink
hell if some company like ea can do it why not

and way to go making fiat uno premium and most exciting car in the world like Bugatti Veyron a standard car Laughing


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RMFX




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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 17:05    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
pretty sure any other game with so many flaws would be given much lesser score, but of course $ony does have ca$h to spend Wink
hell if some company like ea can do it why not


Pretty sure you could find something better to do than troll in this thread.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Dec 2010 17:08    Post subject:
sure i do, altho pointing the facts can't be called trolling Wink

oh well it was fun while it lasted Wink
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