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Damage has allready been done though. Lots of douches running around with prestige 15 now. IMO, they should just ban anyone with prestige level greater then 2, or at least reset their ranks back to nothing.
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Aeon
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 09:07 Post subject: |
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If you played non stop you can be Prestige 3 or 4.
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 10:16 Post subject: |
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| aeonfast wrote: | | If you played non stop you can be Prestige 3 or 4. |
I've seen 2 at most. I suppose 3 or 4 would exsist for the no-life crowd though.
I think you would agree that removing anyone at prestige 15 would make sense though.
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Aeon
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 10:20 Post subject: |
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True.
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jippyuk
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 11:04 Post subject: |
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Just out of interest, what is everyones favourite weapon type? For me I'm in love with the Famas, thinking it will get the nerf bat at some point much like the M60 did in BC2?
So for now I am racking up the kills with it whilst I have the chance. Interested to know what everyone else enjoys using in MP.
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 11:08 Post subject: |
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That's very promising news that the combat training mode has apparently been cracked. Shame it includes steam, I really hope a steam less version gets made.
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jippyuk
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 11:23 Post subject: |
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I tried the FN Fal last night, didnt realise it was Semi Automatic... Think it downs players quicker but meh, prefer an automatic for sure.
Famas v Galil... Prefer the Famas, only time I have an issue with the famas is long range. Dont know how the Galil handles with long distance targets. Mind you still using the Red dot sight which most people seem to get straight away.
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 11:27 Post subject: |
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Best is Commando. High fire rate, predictable recoil, good damage, and fast reload.
Best longer range AR is the M14. Does the most damage of any AR, has more recoil then the FAL, but the recoil is easier to control since the recoil is up only.
Can't comment on any other weapons class. Only ever use assault rifles in these games, they are definatly the best in all situations.
The galil is probably the best automatic until you can get the commando. Does has decent accuracy and range, and has decent fire rate along with damage. FAMAS is good, but far to inaccurate at range. Only problem with galil is the slow reload time. However, it does have a larger clip.
M14 is basically as good as the G3 from CoD4, and the FAL from CoD6. No reason to use any other weapon if you have really good aim. If you make every shot hit, the M14 will bring down people in 2-3 shots at any range. (2 if you score a headshot, 3 if you don't.) I tried using the FAL, but it doesn't have as good of range so at long range it can take 4 shots instead of 3 - Which means you can't as easily pick off runners. The recoil also ruins the FAL in this game, as previously stated. Instead of being straight up only recoil (which is far easier to compensate) it goes all over the place when you shoot.
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Aeon
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 11:28 Post subject: |
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I use the Iron Sight from the Galil. Haven't tried Red Dot on it yet.
FAMAS at short/medium range is pretty good.
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 11:32 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 11:33 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 11:35 Post subject: |
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| garus wrote: | | Mchart wrote: | | the M14 will bring down people in 2-3 shots at any range. |
You are talking about Normal Mode, right? |
Yes.
In hardcore mode the M14 will bring down anyone with 1 shot at any range.
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 11:35 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 11:38 Post subject: |
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I know that in short and medium range the FAL will also bring down anyone with 1 shot. Not sure about long range though. Probably 2 shots since it has less range.
FAL is basically worthless in this game, which makes me sad because in MW2 the FAL was the best gun.
I was also dissapoint that they made the commando the best automatic AR in the game. (Level 42 requirement to get the best gun is bullshit. The best all around gun should be around level 20 so lower level people don't get fucked over.) It really does just shit all over the rest of the automatic AR's at any range. Couple that with a super fast reload time, and a great spray pattern when hip-firing... Yeah the Commando is way OP IMO. Whenever I use it, it's like I turned easy mode on or something.
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Aeon
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 11:43 Post subject: |
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Nah, I don't think the Commando is the best AR. It is ONE of the best, together with the Galil and FAMAS, I think.
Also a nice review of the graphics on the Consoles and PC:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-call-of-duty-black-ops-faceoff
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 11:45 Post subject: |
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Again, I disagree. It does the most damage at any range, has a super fast reload time, has the best accuracy, and has the most predictable recoil. The FAMAS has faster firing rate - But it sucks at longer ranges. The GALIL is -ALMOST- as good - But the super long reload time on the GALIL kills it. Also remember that more recoil means nothing if the recoil is straight up only and predictable, like on the M14 and Commando. Many weapons with less recoil go all over the place, so in the end they are harder to shoot on target.
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 11:46 Post subject: |
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| Yondaime wrote: | I'm using the Galil with a Red Dot Sight + Supressor, it's my sneaky class.
Perks:
Ghost, Warlord and Ninja
Since killstreaks don't stack and give you more kill streaks, people are using UAV/Spy Plane much more now so being invisible to that helps a lot. I could probably do without the Red Dot Sight and use some other perk instead of Warlord but faster reload doesn't really warrant it since this class isn't a rambo type anyway.
Had great success with it so far. |
Couldnt figure out this killstreak part.
Some people seem to get out the gunships and get on the chopper gun really quickly ingame. What sort of killstreaks we talking about for that?
And assuming I get the Spy plane... Then die, then get another 3 killstreak, what happens? Nothing? It just replaces the current spy plane? IS that what you were meaning?
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 11:50 Post subject: |
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That chart is what proves my point. The Commando is superior to the GALIL in every way. Faster equip times, MUCH faster reload times, and better recoil.
The GALIL is one of the best - For sure. But once you get the commando, no reason to use it.
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 12:06 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 12:16 Post subject: |
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I use reflex sight with everything. Red dot is OK but doesn't give the tiny bit of zoom that the reflex gives. I have no problem with the reflex and close range either. I'd use red dot on SMG's and pistols, but that is about it. On AR's that tiny bit of zoom can be super helpful at longer ranges, but it doesn't totally zoom in like the ACOG where it effects your close to medium range in a negative way.
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 12:20 Post subject: |
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| aeonfast wrote: | Then explain me why I play better with the Galil then with the Commando 
Nah just kidding, but stats aren't everything, personal favor and feel is important too.
| jippyuk wrote: | Gonna try out the galil in a little bit. What scope you recommend for it? I have the perk for faster reload times atm on the famas, makes it insanely quick when you've got a swarm of enemy runnin in your direction.
Wondering for the Galil though, from the sounds of it due to its slower reload times I should equip this perk again? 
What scope... |
Yes, use Sleight of Hand with it. Try to begin without the Red Dot and put Extended Mags on it. |
You just need to get used to the commando. In the end, an equal-skill Commando user vs. an equal skill galil user will always win out. The reload on the commando is basically a full second shorter, the recoil better, and the amount of time it takes to switch to the commando is shorter as well. The reload time on the galil is what really kills it for me. I never use the sleight of hand perk, as the weapons I use allready have a fast reload. (M14, and Commando). The reload on the galil is so bad that it gets into LMG reload times.
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 12:27 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 12:27 Post subject: |
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What is your perk loadout mchart?
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 12:33 Post subject: |
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Scavenger Pro + Warlord Pro/hardened pro (Warlord if it's M14 due to needing the second attachment slot for the grip, and hardened if it's commando) + gas mask pro.
IMO, gas mask is best 3rd tier perk, no question. Saves you from gas, and in pro form partially protects from other tactical grenades along with revealing enemies on the map that you have used tactical grenades on.
Scavenger is my favorite, as you then never run out of ammo. Starting with max ammo, and getting an extra missle for my LAW is nice as well.
Basically, I design my entire loadout around being able to be most effective with my primary weapon + having a lot of grenades. I carry the LAW because then I can help out the team (And myself) by shooting shit down. Not enough people carry rocket launchers in multiplayer. Almost every time I play i'm the only one shooting stuff down. More points for me I guess.
I don't see the point in carrying a second weapon besides the launcher, because you should only be using your primary in every case. You should be effective at any range with your primary. The only caveat is if you are sniping or carrying a shotgun. Which is stupid anyways, because then you aren't effective at all ranges without switching. I've never had a problem taking down a sniper, or a shotgun noob - Even when they are at their 'best' ranges. Shotgun noobs can usually be hipshot spammed, and snipers can usually be picked off in speed before they get you. Technically, a good player should rape me in those situations - But it is very rare that people who are actually good at the game are using sniper rifles or shotguns anyways. Because people that are good at the game know that the AR's are the best if you want to get a lot of kills.
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2010 12:47 Post subject: |
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I'm a big noob so I use Ghost+SoH+Ninja with the silenced AK74u... 
All the other SMG's are effing worthless, either thier iron-sights are are poopy or their stats (or both in most cases).
In the assault rifle section the commando and AK47 are loads of fun, HK G11 might be fun with a high powered sniper score but it's easily matched by the M16 when playing in hardcore mode. ^_^
Ohh, and I hate how the game forces me to play Demolition, sabotage or S&D to be able to get the ghost pro perk. I have to plant the mofo bomb like 10 times and all the servers are super homo. :S
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