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Frant
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 20:46 Post subject: |
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@Yondaime :Have you read that STALKER 2 will be multiplatform? 
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| Posted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 20:59 Post subject: |
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S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 will feature ultra low textures, 30fps cap, cover system, mouse support (with stuttering). Also customizable graphics options like gamma and brightness.
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| Posted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 21:01 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 21:19 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 will feature ultra low textures, 30fps cap, cover system, mouse support (with stuttering). Also customizable graphics options like gamma and brightness. |
You know, I don't come here often anymore, only whenever I want to feel rage enough to stab people in their sleep. Thank you.
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| Posted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 21:28 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 00:27 Post subject: |
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| FriendlyBus wrote: | | Breezer_ wrote: | | S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 will feature ultra low textures, 30fps cap, cover system, mouse support (with stuttering). Also customizable graphics options like gamma and brightness. |
You know, I don't come here often anymore, only whenever I want to feel rage enough to stab people in their sleep. Thank you. |
Im so sorry that i hurt your feelings.
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doobzilla
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 06:05 Post subject: |
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I'll be skipping this. First stalker was a nightmare. Clear sky was no better. Each had so many game breaking bugs at release, and for months after release that they'll never get my money again, ever.
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vurt
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 10:02 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | I've never understood why anyone would play such complex games at release anyways? Ok if someone is a complete n00b or just very naive and dont understand how it usualy works then i can understand. You'll learn after a while..
I waited like 1.5 years before i played STALKER, and the game was just incredible patched and modded.. I'm doing the same with New Vegas (also complex and ofcourse, buggy and in need of mods.), gonna be great with all the mods and fully patched  |
I've played games far more complex then stalker at release, and they weren't ANYWHERE near as broken, and I mean, literally, broken like stalker was at release.
Shit, the first stalker wasn't even fixed until 3rd party modders came out and fixed all the horrible game breaking bugs.
I had hoped they wouldn't pull the same shit when Clear Sky released - But they did. So fuck em'. I'm not buying their games anymore.
Even Fallout 3 at release was far more bug free then stalker was, and that game was huge, and it definatly had it's own fair share of bad bugs.
You just don't realize how bad stalker was at release, and how bad it -still- is without the 'complete' mod.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 10:32 Post subject: |
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| Mchart wrote: | | I'll be skipping this. First stalker was a nightmare. Clear sky was no better. Each had so many game breaking bugs at release, and for months after release that they'll never get my money again, ever. |
CoP was pretty much bug free when it it was released, though.
So maybe they've learned their lesson... maybe.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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vurt
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 10:33 Post subject: |
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I'm sure there are more complex games, probably with better funding and done in a more realistic time frame (depending on the devs skills). I mainly read the forum posts and play the pirate copy at release, if i find it unsatisfactory i just wait. Lots and lots of other games to play while waiting to get a much better experience (instead of ruining it with a broken game).
These devs are getting better though, STALKER SoC was (i think?) their first big game so no wonder it wasnt perfect, these sort of fairly open-world and unlinear games are also more difficult to create than the usual FPS crap. Its the same with games like ARMA2 etc.. Very difficult to get it right at release, much better to wait 1-2 years and then play..
STALKER 2 will probably be less complex and more linear :/ even though i think they've stated it's not going to be the case i believe it when i see it..
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 14:45 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | FriendlyBus wrote: | | Breezer_ wrote: | | S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 will feature ultra low textures, 30fps cap, cover system, mouse support (with stuttering). Also customizable graphics options like gamma and brightness. |
You know, I don't come here often anymore, only whenever I want to feel rage enough to stab people in their sleep. Thank you. |
Im so sorry that i hurt your feelings. |
Nobody's going to lift a finger to help you, nobody is going to do more for you than being passably polite. You want games that are good, make them yourself or stfu. That is why I hate the attitude of this board. It's one of the best, most informative pc game boards on the net but everybody here just shits all over everything, before even 1 screenshot is released, as if the world owes them something. I hate to use American rhetoric but it describes so perfectly how I feel. You're a bunch of whiners and you make the world more unpleasant for those of us actually trying to change things.
Even mchart has decent points and bases his actions off history, some people like you, leo and sabin will truely and utterly shit on something as soon as it's annouced without a scrap of evidence. It makes this board a horrible place to be. So I hope you understand why I am rage enough to stab you in your sleep. You are a douche. I know lutz is gonna ban me for this but I don't care, there's no point contributing here.
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 14:57 Post subject: |
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| FriendlyBus wrote: | | Breezer_ wrote: | | FriendlyBus wrote: |
You know, I don't come here often anymore, only whenever I want to feel rage enough to stab people in their sleep. Thank you. |
Im so sorry that i hurt your feelings. |
Nobody's going to lift a finger to help you, nobody is going to do more for you than being passably polite. You want games that are good, make them yourself or stfu. That is why I hate the attitude of this board. It's one of the best, most informative pc game boards on the net but everybody here just shits all over everything, before even 1 screenshot is released, as if the world owes them something. I hate to use American rhetoric but it describes so perfectly how I feel. You're a bunch of whiners and you make the world more unpleasant for those of us actually trying to change things.
Even mchart has decent points and bases his actions off history, some people like you, leo and sabin will truely and utterly shit on something as soon as it's annouced without a scrap of evidence. It makes this board a horrible place to be. So I hope you understand why I am rage enough to stab you in your sleep. You are a douche. I know lutz is gonna ban me for this but I don't care, there's no point contributing here. |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 15:19 Post subject: |
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The sense of hate that arises everytime a PC title sees a multiplatform sequel is understandable and based on valid precedents, though it's wise to wait a bit more and see what the future has in store for us.
In any case, I have to be honest: I don't expect anything good from this transition since very probably the game will suffer from a major simplification and linearization that will affect both the gameplay (more guided
structure, less recoil, easier gunfights, simplified inventory) and the overall experience.
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 15:32 Post subject: |
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Uh, far as I'm concerned *nothing* good has ever come from a pc game going multi-playform. Which makes this a shame, since the Stalker series was one I really liked. Now the best we can hope for is that it stays pretty much the same(i.e. no improvements, but not any dumbing down either), but in all likelihood it will see simplifications and 'measures taken to ensure accessability' like all other titles going multiplatform.
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 16:02 Post subject: |
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| Mchart wrote: | | vurt wrote: | I've never understood why anyone would play such complex games at release anyways? Ok if someone is a complete n00b or just very naive and dont understand how it usualy works then i can understand. You'll learn after a while..
I waited like 1.5 years before i played STALKER, and the game was just incredible patched and modded.. I'm doing the same with New Vegas (also complex and ofcourse, buggy and in need of mods.), gonna be great with all the mods and fully patched |
I've played games far more complex then stalker at release, and they weren't ANYWHERE near as broken, and I mean, literally, broken like stalker was at release.
Shit, the first stalker wasn't even fixed until 3rd party modders came out and fixed all the horrible game breaking bugs.
I had hoped they wouldn't pull the same shit when Clear Sky released - But they did. So fuck em'. I'm not buying their games anymore.
Even Fallout 3 at release was far more bug free then stalker was, and that game was huge, and it definatly had it's own fair share of bad bugs.
You just don't realize how bad stalker was at release, and how bad it -still- is without the 'complete' mod. |
Sucks to be you. 
CoP was my first stalker game, and it was amazing. Then I decided to try out the first one, with the complete mod. I was seriously blown away.
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 16:49 Post subject: |
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| FriendlyBus wrote: | | Breezer_ wrote: | | FriendlyBus wrote: |
You know, I don't come here often anymore, only whenever I want to feel rage enough to stab people in their sleep. Thank you. |
Im so sorry that i hurt your feelings. |
Nobody's going to lift a finger to help you, nobody is going to do more for you than being passably polite. You want games that are good, make them yourself or stfu. That is why I hate the attitude of this board. It's one of the best, most informative pc game boards on the net but everybody here just shits all over everything, before even 1 screenshot is released, as if the world owes them something. I hate to use American rhetoric but it describes so perfectly how I feel. You're a bunch of whiners and you make the world more unpleasant for those of us actually trying to change things.
Even mchart has decent points and bases his actions off history, some people like you, leo and sabin will truely and utterly shit on something as soon as it's annouced without a scrap of evidence. It makes this board a horrible place to be. So I hope you understand why I am rage enough to stab you in your sleep. You are a douche. I know lutz is gonna ban me for this but I don't care, there's no point contributing here. |
Yeah, what the fuck, guys? Why are you speaking up against your gods, game developers, you lowly peasants?! You're not worth squat you god damn vermin!
You better buy every game they release and not talk bad about anything from now on. Get ready for Ass Effect: Spread 'em and S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2(Spread That Ass Like Keanu Effing Reeves 2)
| Quote: | | As Joint-CEO Ray Muzyka told us, "Dragon Age is the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate." |
| Quote: | | As Combat and Careers Designer Jason Mohr told us, "Dragon Age 2 is the spiritual succesor to Dynasty Warriors." |
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Anyway, ignoring that. Indeed we have to wait for gameplay but what game has seriously been even a shell of the former games once it went multiplatform? I can't seriously remember a single one.
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 16:56 Post subject: |
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It depends on how the muilt-platform games are made
If it's done the old way, PC focussed with a later console port with parts cut/altered to fit the limitations, then it's all good
If it's done the current way, 360 focussed with a few gfx enhancements for pc, cumbersome UI, simplified, etc then it will probably be complete ass
Worst case scenario is STALKER 2 becoming a lame, action/adventure FPS aimed at the XBOX kiddies, I don't see it happening but we all know it's very possible
CoP was pretty much bug free for me
SoC had a few but none that were "game breaking" although I did read a few horror stories
Loved both of them but never tried Clear Sky because the faction thing never interested me
I need to try out those Complete mods at some point, they look pretty special
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zmed
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 17:10 Post subject: |
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Ok, people here bitch about the franchise going multiplatform. But where did they get that from?
As far as I can remember, the devs only said that they don't dismiss the idea, not a single word of concrete confirmation. Any links where they state it as fact and without a shadow of a doubt that it will come out on consoles too?
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vurt
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 17:34 Post subject: |
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There are interviews and official statements, takes a second to google that.
Here's one
"A completely new multi-platform technology developed by GSC will make the core of the game." (from http://www.gsc-game.com/)
not the best statement i guess, since it doesnt say right out that its for multi-platform, just the tech.. cant remember where i read the interview with one of the devs who was claiming PC users was still cared for and that the game still would be like the old ones. maybe im mixing it up with Deus Ex 3 lol
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zmed
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 17:38 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | There are interviews and official statements, takes a second to google that.
Here's one
"A completely new multi-platform technology developed by GSC will make the core of the game." (from http://www.gsc-game.com/) |
Multiplatform technology=/=multiplatform game. My point still holds. For all we know they can go the Sims way and make separate games for Pc and consoles, or simply making the engine marketable.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 17:43 Post subject: |
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If it will be in the style of Metro 2033 I'll withdraw from the STALKER universe accordingly.
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