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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 23:48    Post subject:
It's a shame some people are still having technical issues, as this really is a great game. I'm fortunate enough that the day 1 patch + server side rate change solved all my issues.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 23:55    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
It's a shame some people are still having technical issues, as this really is a great game. I'm fortunate enough that the day 1 patch + server side rate change solved all my issues.


Yeah it did for me but the odd stutter but not often, then suddenly its all gone to shit again after the servers went down recently and started to fuck up again..

Otherwise was like you was ok and fine for playing after patch and server rate change, but that only lasted 2 days then back to as it was Sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Nov 2010 23:56    Post subject:
Ok tried the custom config. It does make the game look even more ugly (really didn't think it was possible), however it did result in a massive reduction of problems.

It's not perfect, far from it, but certainly makes it more playable. I have no choice but to continue using it until they fix their shite properly.


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Mchart




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 00:54    Post subject:
I would just wait until they release another patch and/or ATI/Nvidia come out with a new driver that potentially fixes the problems for you.

The game can look quite stunning sometimes (Hard to beleive, but it can), and I wouldn't want to play it with low settings.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 00:56    Post subject:
@theCenty We have some nice optimizations for better FPS going into QA tomorrow.


@pcdev Will we get the /connect and /reconnect commands in the next patch?
@pwnshop_ /connect is coming back. maybe not next patch but I promise it is coming back.

@pcdev Will the last killcam (End of the round) lag too fixed if the patch comes out?
@BlackBank3 TBH I'm not sure yet what is causing killcam choppiness, but we see it too. Will fix.

@pcdev hey i have ati hd 4850 and my fps drops and makes my game freeze for 2 3 sec in mp and sp any solution for this would be great thanks
@Kal346 we are aware of long shader compile times on nvidia 4 series cards causing hitching. working with nvidia on a fix.

@pcdev will the black ops SDK support single player?
@ETPC1 Stay tuned for mod tools info.


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 01:03    Post subject:
Thanks!


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 01:09    Post subject:
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@pcdev hey i have ati hd 4850 and my fps drops and makes my game freeze for 2 3 sec in mp and sp any solution for this would be great thanks
@Kal346 we are aware of long shader compile times on nvidia 4 series cards causing hitching. working with nvidia on a fix.


What about ATI cards? Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 01:09    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Quote:
@pcdev hey i have ati hd 4850 and my fps drops and makes my game freeze for 2 3 sec in mp and sp any solution for this would be great thanks
@Kal346 we are aware of long shader compile times on nvidia 4 series cards causing hitching. working with nvidia on a fix.


What about ATI cards? Crying or Very sad


thats what i'm wondering too!! Confused
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mArkAntonioo




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 01:10    Post subject:
Btw,

TDM match 28:4 (K : D), not even trying.

So easy killing Polacks Very Happy


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Raap




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 01:11    Post subject:
Which cards you guys having trouble on? 4xxx series? Game is working fine here on my 5870. Some slight stuttering sometimes, but pretty sure that is server lag.
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djdahren




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 01:12    Post subject:
Raap wrote:
Which cards you guys having trouble on? 4xxx series? Game is working fine here on my 5870. Some slight stuttering sometimes, but pretty sure that is server lag.


i have an ATI 4670


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Argie86




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 01:24    Post subject:
what about high pings? im getting 200+ on every server (my connection and pc are fine)
It`s even worst than matchmaking... or atleast the same.
i've been playing on a brazilian server the other day and having 70-90ms, now It's impossible... Crying or Very sad

mArkAntonioo wrote:

@pcdev hey i have ati hd 4850 and my fps drops and makes my game freeze for 2 3 sec in mp and sp any solution for this would be great thanks
@Kal346 we are aware of long shader compile times on nvidia 4 series cards causing hitching. working with nvidia on a fix.


Lol he is asking about Ati, and the dev answer is about nvidia... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 01:32    Post subject:
I play BO on my laptop with ati 4650 and have regular 40 FPS with no lags (playing on Italy server). I really don't understand what you guys whining about. Dual core + 4xxx series and game should run normal. If you have lags then it's your problem, not the game optimization. I admit that optimization is poor, but sometimes you really cross the line.

Get the game for free because my buddy bought it and can't launch it Smile I get what I expected. Some new maps, weapons and some new stuff (I hate RC) But behind all of that, it's just another MW2. Quick meat fun game - don't think just shoot.


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Argie86




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 01:38    Post subject:
Vitriks wrote:
I play BO on my laptop with ati 4650 and have regular 40 FPS with no lags (playing on Italy server). I really don't understand what you guys whining about. Dual core + 4xxx series and game should run normal. If you have lags then it's your problem, not the game optimization. I admit that optimization is poor, but sometimes you really cross the line.


If most of the people playing this game are having problem with lags, stuttering and fps drops, then its a game problem, we are talking about modded quake engine, any shitty pc can run it without problems.
You say it, optimization is poor, so its a game problem.
I can run cod 4-5-6 without a problem (Q6600 - 8Gb - 4870), but BO is stuttering and lagging as hell, and it use the same engine.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 01:58    Post subject:
I have a 9800GT. Old card, I know, but runs nearly every other game released this year without problems.
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 02:08    Post subject:
Argie86 wrote:
what about high pings? im getting 200+ on every server (my connection and pc are fine)
It`s even worst than matchmaking... or atleast the same.
i've been playing on a brazilian server the other day and having 70-90ms, now It's impossible... Crying or Very sad

mArkAntonioo wrote:

@pcdev hey i have ati hd 4850 and my fps drops and makes my game freeze for 2 3 sec in mp and sp any solution for this would be great thanks
@Kal346 we are aware of long shader compile times on nvidia 4 series cards causing hitching. working with nvidia on a fix.


Lol he is asking about Ati, and the dev answer is about nvidia... Rolling Eyes


No offense, but are you really that fucking stupid?

You are in Argentina. The vast majority of the servers are in the US, with most others in Europe. Obvious is obvious. If you try playing on US servers you will have a 200ms ping time. Nothing is going to 'fix' that 'problem'.
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Argie86




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 02:46    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
Argie86 wrote:
what about high pings? im getting 200+ on every server (my connection and pc are fine)
It`s even worst than matchmaking... or atleast the same.
i've been playing on a brazilian server the other day and having 70-90ms, now It's impossible... Crying or Very sad

mArkAntonioo wrote:

@pcdev hey i have ati hd 4850 and my fps drops and makes my game freeze for 2 3 sec in mp and sp any solution for this would be great thanks
@Kal346 we are aware of long shader compile times on nvidia 4 series cards causing hitching. working with nvidia on a fix.


Lol he is asking about Ati, and the dev answer is about nvidia... Rolling Eyes


No offense, but are you really that fucking stupid?

You are in Argentina. The vast majority of the servers are in the US, with most others in Europe. Obvious is obvious. If you try playing on US servers you will have a 200ms ping time. Nothing is going to 'fix' that 'problem'.


I will belive that you are not a stupid like me so, lets do this, read again what i wrote, there are brazilian servers (atleast 15-20 servers) where I was playing with 70-90ms... and lots of people are having the same issue.
jesus, before you insult someone, read, think, take a breathe, think again, then post.
thank you.
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 03:48    Post subject:
Argie86 wrote:
Mchart wrote:
Argie86 wrote:
what about high pings? im getting 200+ on every server (my connection and pc are fine)
It`s even worst than matchmaking... or atleast the same.
i've been playing on a brazilian server the other day and having 70-90ms, now It's impossible... Crying or Very sad



Lol he is asking about Ati, and the dev answer is about nvidia... Rolling Eyes


No offense, but are you really that fucking stupid?

You are in Argentina. The vast majority of the servers are in the US, with most others in Europe. Obvious is obvious. If you try playing on US servers you will have a 200ms ping time. Nothing is going to 'fix' that 'problem'.


I will belive that you are not a stupid like me so, lets do this, read again what i wrote, there are brazilian servers (atleast 15-20 servers) where I was playing with 70-90ms... and lots of people are having the same issue.
jesus, before you insult someone, read, think, take a breathe, think again, then post.
thank you.


Uh, 70-80ms is pretty damn good for an in country server.

You clearly were complaining about servers out of country having 200ms+ ping times. Go take networking 101 or a basic lesson in physics.

So either you are indeed an idiot complaining about servers in North America having 200ms ping times to your own location in South America; Or your English comprehension fails, and you have no idea what you are writing. Your post clearly is complaining about servers which are not located in South America having 200ms+ ping times. You can't change what you typed.
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Raap




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 03:57    Post subject:
Is something odd about it though. When pinging danish servers( and dutch and german, for that matter) I'm getting 30-40'ish ping. When *playing* those servers I'm getting 70'ish. 70'ish is high, back in the good old CS days I'd be concerned when the ping went over 40'ish.
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 04:01    Post subject:
Raap wrote:
Is something odd about it though. When pinging danish servers( and dutch and german, for that matter) I'm getting 30-40'ish ping. When *playing* those servers I'm getting 70'ish. 70'ish is high, back in the good old CS days I'd be concerned when the ping went over 40'ish.


Pinging an interface, and the time it takes for packets to be processed on a server for something like a game are two completely different things. The latency times you see in game are not ping.
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Argie86




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 04:06    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
Argie86 wrote:
Mchart wrote:


No offense, but are you really that fucking stupid?

You are in Argentina. The vast majority of the servers are in the US, with most others in Europe. Obvious is obvious. If you try playing on US servers you will have a 200ms ping time. Nothing is going to 'fix' that 'problem'.


I will belive that you are not a stupid like me so, lets do this, read again what i wrote, there are brazilian servers (atleast 15-20 servers) where I was playing with 70-90ms... and lots of people are having the same issue.
jesus, before you insult someone, read, think, take a breathe, think again, then post.
thank you.


Uh, 70-80ms is pretty damn good for an in country server.

You clearly were complaining about servers out of country having 200ms+ ping times. Go take networking 101 or a basic lesson in physics.

So either you are indeed an idiot complaining about servers in North America having 200ms ping times to your own location in South America; Or your English comprehension fails, and you have no idea what you are writing. Your post clearly is complaining about servers which are not located in South America having 200ms+ ping times. You can't change what you typed.


I am talking about brazilian servers going from 70-90ms to 200... I never mentioned USA/Europe servers, that was you. I was always talking about brazilians servers which are the most near of my country.
Once again stop insulting, and read the whole post, I never mentioned or complain about USA/Europe servers.

So, brazilians servers go from 70ms one day to 200ms, I can play any other game to a brazilian (sao pablo, porto alegre) server with 70ms except black ops.
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Raap




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 04:07    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
Raap wrote:
Is something odd about it though. When pinging danish servers( and dutch and german, for that matter) I'm getting 30-40'ish ping. When *playing* those servers I'm getting 70'ish. 70'ish is high, back in the good old CS days I'd be concerned when the ping went over 40'ish.


Pinging an interface, and the time it takes for packets to be processed on a server for something like a game are two completely different things. The latency times you see in game are not ping.

Aware. Point was that this game in particular seems to be adding a lot to the ping to get the latency, if you catch my drift. The usual for counter-strike servers was to get about 10'ish more latency than ping; i.e. if it pinged at 30, you could expect 40-45 latency max. In this game it pings at 35-45 and you get 65 latency *at best*.


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Mchart




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 04:07    Post subject:
Argie86 wrote:
Mchart wrote:
Argie86 wrote:


I will belive that you are not a stupid like me so, lets do this, read again what i wrote, there are brazilian servers (atleast 15-20 servers) where I was playing with 70-90ms... and lots of people are having the same issue.
jesus, before you insult someone, read, think, take a breathe, think again, then post.
thank you.


Uh, 70-80ms is pretty damn good for an in country server.

You clearly were complaining about servers out of country having 200ms+ ping times. Go take networking 101 or a basic lesson in physics.

So either you are indeed an idiot complaining about servers in North America having 200ms ping times to your own location in South America; Or your English comprehension fails, and you have no idea what you are writing. Your post clearly is complaining about servers which are not located in South America having 200ms+ ping times. You can't change what you typed.


I am talking about brazilian servers going from 70-90ms to 200... I never mentioned USA/Europe servers, that was you. I was always talking about brazilians servers which are the most near of my country.
Once again stop insulting, and read the whole post, I never mentioned or complain about USA/Europe servers.

So, brazilians servers go from 70ms one day to 200ms, I can play any other game to a brazilian (sao pablo, porto alegre) server with 70ms except black ops.


Your post did not mention that.

If your own servers are doing that then that is completely an issue with your ISP, or the hosting company down there. Not an issue with the game.
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 04:10    Post subject:
Raap wrote:
Mchart wrote:
Raap wrote:
Is something odd about it though. When pinging danish servers( and dutch and german, for that matter) I'm getting 30-40'ish ping. When *playing* those servers I'm getting 70'ish. 70'ish is high, back in the good old CS days I'd be concerned when the ping went over 40'ish.


Pinging an interface, and the time it takes for packets to be processed on a server for something like a game are two completely different things. The latency times you see in game are not ping.

Aware. Point was that this game in particular seems to be adding a lot to the ping to get the latency, if you catch my drift. The usual for counter-strike servers was to get about 10'ish more latency than ping, in this games it's at least double the ping.


I play on servers with 30-40ms latency all the time with this game. Again, you are trying to lay blame on the game for what is probably an issue with your own connection or the circuit between the game server and yourself.
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Raap




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 04:12    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
I play on servers with 30-40ms latency all the time with this game. Again, you are trying to lay blame on the game for what is probably an issue with your own connection or the circuit between the game server and yourself.

That doesn't really make sense. Then my *ping* should be higher as well, not just my latency. What ping are you getting on the servers you have 30-40ms latency on?
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Argie86




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 04:15    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:


Your post did not mention that.


Argie86 wrote:

i've been playing on a brazilian server the other day and having 70-90ms, now It's impossible... Crying or Very sad


See, brazilian server, no USA server or Europe server.

Mchart wrote:

If your own servers are doing that then that is completely an issue with your ISP, or the hosting company down there. Not an issue with the game.


Its not only my ISP, its not only in Argentina, even people in Brazil are having this issue in their own servers in their own country.
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 04:15    Post subject:
Raap wrote:
Mchart wrote:
I play on servers with 30-40ms latency all the time with this game. Again, you are trying to lay blame on the game for what is probably an issue with your own connection or the circuit between the game server and yourself.

That doesn't really make sense. Then my *ping* should be higher as well, not just my latency. What ping are you getting on the servers you have 30-40ms latency on?


I haven't even bothered. The servers are located in Dallas and every other game I play besides this one that has servers in Dallas always shows about the same amount of latency. I'd suspect the particular servers you are trying to play on are just shitty ones having issues, or there is a problem with the connectivity in between.
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 04:18    Post subject:
Argie86 wrote:
Mchart wrote:


Your post did not mention that.


Argie86 wrote:

i've been playing on a brazilian server the other day and having 70-90ms, now It's impossible... Crying or Very sad


See, brazilian server, no USA server or Europe server.

Mchart wrote:

If your own servers are doing that then that is completely an issue with your ISP, or the hosting company down there. Not an issue with the game.


Its not only my ISP, its not only in Argentina, even people in Brazil are having this issue in their own servers in their own country.


Again, your English comprehension is failing. What you said was 70-90ms in Brazil. The part (that you now conviently left out) said 200ms and you didn't say it had anything to do with the servers in Brazil.
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Argie86




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 04:22    Post subject:
I say 200ms in EVERY server, my English comprehension could be bad, but when I say EVERY that includes brazil ones... It's not that hard.
Looks like in USA you dont have this problem, but in south america we do.
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Nov 2010 04:23    Post subject:
Argie86 wrote:
I say 200ms in EVERY server, my English comprehension could be bad, but when I say EVERY that includes brazil ones... It's not that hard.
Looks like in USA you dont have this problem, but in south america we do.


.. And that should indicate to you that the problem exsists with your own infastructure down there and/or people propping up servers that are running on shit/unstable hardware.

If they are the 'official' gameservers.com servers then you need to take the issue up with them, and not Treyarch.
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