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Not only is it laggy to all fuck, but the onscreen character often kicks and punches COMPLETELY randomly and independently of what the player is actually doing
And it can be all yours for the low, low price of only $150!
Not only is it laggy to all fuck, but the onscreen character often kicks and punches COMPLETELY randomly and independently of what the player is actually doing
And it can be all yours for the low, low price of only $150!
I pity anyone I know that buys one of these fucktard scam boxes, the level of mocking will unprecedented
again watch this:
or at least some part of it. No lag and the thing does exactly what its supposed to do. You might still not like ms or kinect but you cant deny that it works perfectly with those games... So people wont be disappointed when they get theirs and no i dont feel sorry for them either because they get what they want: great motion controls for casual games
Gamespot = severely untrustworthy. Period. For anything. I prefer an UNBIASED video thanks and that YT one up there shows unedited footage of realtime gaming without controlled conditions. It SUCKS. There's your proof that this is a waste of time and if you, or anyone else, buys this device; you're all fucking SUCKERS.
Hey, I've got some hen's teeth for sale! If you act now, I'll even throw in a phial of Unicorn blood and some rocking horse poo as well! Low, low, low price of $1,500! You have to send me the money via Western Union though.
But what could they have done to fakethis complete 1 hour video? And what review site is trustworthy in your opinion?
The video with fighters uncaged is from gamescom on beta hardware so why is that more representative of the final hardware? just because your gut tells you? But yeah fighters uncaged will probably suck, looked like a shitty game from the start, still doesn't mean that the hardware sucks.
The reviews will be out in less than 24 hours, and i bet dance central will get around 90% average with comments like works great and great fun. And titles like kinect sports / joyride / adventures and so on will get around 80 with comments like works great and is fun but too shallow (with a few exceptions). The overall gaming press will have very positive views on kinect. You can quote me on that come tomorrow and if I appear to be completely wrong here I will make an profile pic saying "I'm sabins bitch" and I'm going to have it on here for a month. If I'm right you just have to post "Oh, looks like I'm wrong and Kinect isn't that bad after all" once
What could they have done to fake this video? I'll tell you one thing that is EXTREMELY apparent right from the start; YOU NEVER SEE THE DEVICE. You see a TV display (no TV, just the display) and a guy moving in front of a white background.
So basically you're saying that if derps rate it 90% or higher and the "press" raves about it, that validates your points and invalidates my own? By that logic "Twilight Saga" is automatically the best film series of all time. Correct?
Hardly very fair. I'm sorry, but I'm not agreeing to be a sheep and follow the crowd. I don't care if a hundred derps (who after having just paid £140 are going to want to justify and defend their purchase, it's human nature, whereas those that complain will be booed and flamed by others as "liars" or "something wrong with yours because it's fine for me!") claim the device is flawless, I still won't believe them. I'll tell you what I will do; if, when it comes out, the "press" are absolutely raving about it - I'll just shut up. We already know they're paid off anyhow (IGN and especially GameSpot, google for the Gamespot Scandal ) so when they start raving, I'll just keep my opinions to myself.
What could they have done to fake this video? I'll tell you one thing that is EXTREMELY apparent right from the start; YOU NEVER SEE THE DEVICE. You see a TV display (no TV, just the display) and a guy moving in front of a white background.
Not saying this is the case here, because I haven't seen the videos in question, but it's a known marketing trick to prerecord a video and then have actors simulate the movements, doing it with a certain "joy" and "appeal" so that it draws the audience to think the experience is so great. Usually these are mo-cap actors, because they can mimic movements quite well and have good visual memory (so it looks the videos sync).
Hell, even I did it in my project presentation video. You have no idea how difficult it is to actually record and demonstrate live.
Not saying this is the case here, because I haven't seen the videos in question, but it's a known marketing trick to prerecord a video and then have actors simulate the movements, doing it with a certain "joy" and "appeal" so that it draws the audience to think the experience is so great. Usually these are mo-cap actors, because they can mimic movements quite well and have good visual memory (so it looks the videos sync).
Hell, even I did it in my project presentation video. You have no idea how difficult it is to actually record and demonstrate live.
Exactly! You've pretty much just explained my point with a lot more eloquence than I did =) So no; I most certainly DON'T believe the "lagless!" videos from GameSpot.
To be honest, when I see a product displayed and I see some technical difficulties, like a little lag or some move not registering, like in, you know, REAL FUCKING LIFE, then it would make me appreciate the company and the product so much more, because it shows that despite the little difficulties, the company believes in it and is behind the product one hundred percent without resorting to cheap tricks.
(In my defense, I was demonstrating a proof-of-concept product, not something being released in a month. )
What more, most of the target audience is so retarded anyway, they wouldn't notice such technical difficulties anyway, so it's just stupid.
Ok see now I'm even more confused. In the first part of your post, you're PRAISING Microsoft and DEFENDING the device .. then in the parenthesis you're back to 'ing at them. Make up your mind, man
Where did I defend them? As I said, I have not seen the videos in question. I am making general observations. I respect companies which display their devices as is, despite minor flaws which might show up during demonstration (i.e. they show the real-world experience). From what I gathered, Microsoft did the opposite and faked the videos. So I am indeed not praising them.
In my parentheses comment, I was making excuses why I made my video the way I did.
That's why I was confused, because it read like - despite MS faking the demonstration videos - you were praising them for releasing it despite such technical shortcomings I guess it can be a bit hard to read intentions behind text
My post was in context to "I most certainly DON'T believe the "lagless!" videos from GameSpot."
I made a comment that I would have respected MS more if they shows a "laggy" video.
Just like their E3 presentations... oh man that was cringeworthy Still, if it comes out and it's proven that it IS viable, I'll shut up about it. I just don't believe for one second that it is, or will be, viable. I've not seen any impressive videos yet, just faked and laggy crap. At least with Move/Wiimote you actually have some tactile control that can compensate for unresponsive and laggy shit... with Kinect there's sod all you can do when the game decides it wants to ignore the shit out of your "input"
nope they are gamespot staff, well known, and definately no mo-cap actors, at times they do the wrong movements and the game doesn't respond which they wouldnt if this was a video made by ms, and in adition its clearly visible that they are not just mimicking the movements. @ inatan just skip somewhere into the video. This is just a standard hands on but again there will be hundreds more tomorrow and they are going to show the same thing.
And because of that instead of proving your point the case is actually quite the contrary, or do you believe that THOSE guys could learn those movements so perfect in advance? I don't think so...
So what is reliable video game press? Which page would you believe? Or would you still say it is shitty if every single review on the web would say it kicks ass? (without trying it yourself of course)
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a their studio is green-screened so they can do any set they want
b there is a lot of lag on some games and little lag on many others.
c press never raved about twilight series only kids
gamespot is shit when it comes to serious reviews not on hands tech shit
as is every and i do mean EVERY review site/person/magazine/publisher/youtube/podcast/medium out there
every review source is biased. but on hand tech demos show the flaws of the tech and how well it works. Im picking it up for the minority report feel when i plug in my usb key with photos and use kinect to scroll through them
though there is one segment where it looks like it's layered over so yeah...
but it shows lag on some games, little to almost no lag on some others.
unless their syncer got mad high and couldn't sync footage then mad lolz
I don't understand how this will work. I understand teh Wii mote, you only have to use your hands and arms. When, let's say,"full body control" is used, won't the game be limited by the gamers' agility? How will a fat man who can't lift his leg an inch play this game? How will I play Mortal Kombat and do a flying kick? This is a nice gadget, I have no bad words for the technology itself, but how the hell will this be anything more than a gimmick for games?
There's also the fact that people using this will be even more moronic compared to the Wii mote, but I guess it's a matter of taste.
you do basic gestures with your body to do full gestures in game.
yes a fatty wont play sonic games cause they require full body control
but the party games... jump just a bit... wave your hands... get a heart attack.
kinect is cool if you have kids and a housewife and aren't busy on weekends
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nope they are gamespot staff, well known, and definately no mo-cap actors, at times they do the wrong movements and the game doesn't respond which they wouldnt if this was a video made by ms, and in adition its clearly visible that they are not just mimicking the movements.
And what random explanation do you have for the fact that the games (both in the GameSpot video AND in the YT one) OFTEN perform actions that the player didn't do? You know what I'm starting to think? I'm starting to think this technology doesn't even exist... it's like those old VHS tapes you could buy as a kid, ones where you had a laser gun that you shot at the TV and the VHS "showed" enemies being shot down, giving you the illusion that you actually just shot down a spaceship or a plane in a cartoon.
@Mister_s
1. It's no toy for fatties
2. Of course not every game will be playable with this, and don't expect mortal kombat as we know it coming to kinect. If it does it'll be a version that is playable with kinect with less air spinning Look at the wiimote, swinging a sword in zelda is just waggling the wiimote so expect something similar if the movement is impossible to pull off in you living room. Like a little jump with a ittle kick for a flying kick on screen It's not made to replace the controller its made to make new games possible, like dance central for example which is a perfect fit <- also no love for fatties here
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Please tell me which part in the Gamespot video do you mean where an action is not performed but still visible on screen?
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what yt vid shows actions performed by game but not by gamer? i i haven't seen those yet
I guess you didn't read ANY of this thread, or indeed see ANY Kinect videos EVER shown prior to this day, hmm? There are two videos posted in this thread which show games performing actions either WAY before the player moves (inverse-lag? ) or even actions without the player moving at all. Then there's the infamous MICROSOFT demonstration at E3 .... oh lulz were had that day.
Guerrilla060185 wrote:
Please tell me which part in the Gamespot video do you mean where an action is not performed but still visible on screen?
You posted the link yourself
You know what? It's obvious I'm fighting a losing battle, since the both of you can't stop gushing over how wonderful this tech is and you're going to fight me every step of the way. I'm not fighting back, enjoy your wonderful little toy; I won't be replying to either of you in this or any other Kinect thread.
If you look closely there's no "inverse-lag", it's just very severe lag. Some movements register very late, so you'll see out of place actions onscreen. I think background 'noise' and room lighting also play a role. In teh first vid posted the room is not in optimal conditions. Since no living room will have optimal lighting, I doubt any game will work as perfect as in the GS vid.
It is a good tech though. Imagine a a green room with cameras all over the place registering body movement. Primitive VR room?
Do you even know what the word "inverse" means? I'm not talking about Player Action > Onscreen Action .. I'm talking about Onscreen Action > Player Action .. and it happens numerous times in both videos in this thread.
Player movement is registered too late or imperfectly. I don't see any inverse-lag. It's like pushing a button and seeing the action ten seconds later, when several actions are already processed onsreen. That's what I see anyways. And wrong registration of body movement is logical at this pont, the tech is new and very sensitive to external factors I imagine. I personally don't see any onscreen action that is not trigered by gamer movement.
Two people can watch the same thing and observe different things, perfectly normal.
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Not only is it laggy to all fuck, but the onscreen character often kicks and punches COMPLETELY randomly and independently of what the player is actually doing 
You have no idea how difficult it is to actually record and demonstrate live. 
I guess it can be a bit hard to read intentions behind text 
Still, if it comes out and it's proven that it IS viable, I'll shut up about it. I just don't believe for one second that it is, or will be, viable. I've not seen any impressive videos yet, just faked and laggy crap. At least with Move/Wiimote you actually have some tactile control that can compensate for unresponsive and laggy shit... with Kinect there's sod all you can do when the game decides it wants to ignore the shit out of your "input" 
i i haven't seen those yet 
