[XBOX360] Nov2010 new dashboard, new checks ?
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teh_bad_clown




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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 11:35    Post subject:
zilliver69 wrote:
ragnar156 wrote:
even fable 3 ? thanks


The Sims 3 and the James Bond game at least Smile

James bond works w/o patching afaik.
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ragnar156




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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 11:38    Post subject:
fable 3 has the news protection... no james bond...
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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 11:44    Post subject:
Update now confirmed for the 1st November, via xbox.com:

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The date is now official! The new Kinect/Fall2010 Update is coming tomorrow (Monday Nov 1st). Microsoft announced this via e-mail [xbox.com]:

On November 1, 2010, there will be a mandatory service update to Xbox LIVE. This update will both add new features to your service and also enhance the interface, navigation, and responsiveness of Xbox LIVE.

Q: Is there anything I need to do to start the update?
A: Beginning on November 1, 2010, you will receive a notification that an update to Xbox LIVE is available as soon as you start your Xbox 360 console. Use your controller to accept the update according to the on-screen instructions.
Q: What if I decline the service update?
A: If you decline the update, you will not be able to connect to Xbox LIVE until the update is accepted. You will still be able to use all of the offline features of your Xbox 360 console. Xbox LIVE features will be unavailable until the update is complete.


And so it begin's...
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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 13:40    Post subject:
Just hoping that AC brotherhood comes without mandatory update of dashboard.
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ragnar156




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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 14:56    Post subject:
does it work if you patch the game in wave 3 ?
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dangerouseddy




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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 15:02    Post subject:
im on the beta dash and it doesnt boot patched to wave 3 or not (fable 3). the new checks are in the game xex afaik.


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ragnar156




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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 15:04    Post subject:
ok.. i must reflash my console...
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 15:58    Post subject:
So just to get this straight. if i tomorrow update my console (if im not banned that is) I might not be able to boot new games anymore? Got a lite-on/phillips dvd-rom with lt v1 firmware.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 16:06    Post subject:
kenny64 wrote:
So just to get this straight. if i tomorrow update my console (if im not banned that is) I might not be able to boot new games anymore? Got a lite-on/phillips dvd-rom with lt v1 firmware.


... and as part of this question; Is it possible to flash a LiteOn without the CK3+ stuff ONCE it's been flashed before? If I want to play new games, I'm going to need to flash with that upcoming LT+ or whatever - but without the CK3 kit, is it even possible?
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dangerouseddy




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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 17:17    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
kenny64 wrote:
So just to get this straight. if i tomorrow update my console (if im not banned that is) I might not be able to boot new games anymore? Got a lite-on/phillips dvd-rom with lt v1 firmware.


... and as part of this question; Is it possible to flash a LiteOn without the CK3+ stuff ONCE it's been flashed before? If I want to play new games, I'm going to need to flash with that upcoming LT+ or whatever - but without the CK3 kit, is it even possible?



games with the new ap2.5 protection wont work without a firmware update if you have a liteon drive afaik.

you should be able to read the firmware of a flashed liteon without the ck3 stuff afaik


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 17:32    Post subject:
Actually.. it's games won't work IF you have the new dashboard. I'm playing Fable 3 just fine on my LiteOn/LT1.0 using the current NXE dashboard. If I install the Kinect one tomorrow, I understand I'd lose access to AP25 games -- which is why I'm not doing it Very Happy Thanks for the info on the flashing... I'd hate to have to source another CK3 just to reflash my drive.
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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 17:39    Post subject:
Hasbro_Family_Game_Night_3_READNFO_WAVE_7_USA_RF-XBOX360-RRoD

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As confirmed by the abgx360 Stealth Team, this is the first Wave 7
game (contains SystemUpdate version 9199 on-disc)
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dangerouseddy




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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 17:55    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Actually.. it's games won't work IF you have the new dashboard. I'm playing Fable 3 just fine on my LiteOn/LT1.0 using the current NXE dashboard. If I install the Kinect one tomorrow, I understand I'd lose access to AP25 games -- which is why I'm not doing it Very Happy Thanks for the info on the flashing... I'd hate to have to source another CK3 just to reflash my drive.


yes sorry forgot to add the bit about them only not working on the new dash atm.


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gABBY




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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 18:01    Post subject:
JiGSaW wrote:
Hasbro_Family_Game_Night_3_READNFO_WAVE_7_USA_RF-XBOX360-RRoD

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As confirmed by the abgx360 Stealth Team, this is the first Wave 7
game (contains SystemUpdate version 9199 on-disc)


Yeah,

But thats why I'm afraid of when they start releasing games that will require the new update.
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armando99
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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 18:03    Post subject:
if you have LT fw, all waves will work.
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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 18:11    Post subject:
maybe this new update proves that M$ having hard times detecting Moded consoles?

I don't underestimating them,and we will have to see tomorrow/the next few days,if I had moded 360,I wouldn't update until new FW will arrive to counter this.


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Munkeee




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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Oct 2010 18:18    Post subject:
JackQ wrote:
maybe this new update proves that M$ having hard times detecting Moded consoles?


I would be more worried about them finally implementing ap25

Downloading the challenges surely makes it nigh on impossible to replicate correct responses


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but you know what Chinese whispers are like; some newbie will read your comment and suddenly run and spread it all over the internet that the new 2010 Banwave disables all your XBLA games when you're banned.

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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 01:21    Post subject:
OK, I read this whole thread and I'm still not clear.

I was planning on buying Kinect, so obviously I'll need the new dashboard. But I'm currently on Wave 3, and have just been patching games for the last year or two (not banned either, and I have been connecting every once and a while for NHL 10/11 roster updates).

So if I update the dashboard, does this mean all of my patched to wave 3 discs won't work anymore?


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 01:26    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:

So if I update the dashboard, does this mean all of my patched to wave 3 discs won't work anymore?


Not as far as we understand, no. What it means is that any game using AP25 (a security/protection protocol) won't boot until c4eva cracks it with the new LT. So far AP25 is only *known* to exist on a few games and of those only two are actually confirmed; Fifa 09 and Fable 3. It *could* be on Sims 3 too. However, knowing MS, since AP25 has been part of drive firmwares for YEARS.. it could very well exist in pretty much any game you name and suddenly, when the new dashboard comes out, MS drops the motherfucker of all bombshells on the pirate community Very Happy Laughing
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gABBY




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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 03:41    Post subject:
So long story short..

If all shit works on the 1st november don't move and wait till new fw is been released to use with kinect.
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 03:46    Post subject:
gABBY wrote:
So long story short..

If all shit works on the 1st november don't move and wait till new fw is been released to use with kinect.


so does this also mean I shouldn't get kinect until a new fw has been released?


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 04:06    Post subject:
Any talk of new 360 games being able to run by preventing the game from updating similar to what Wii does? Considering where I am in my 360's life cycle (banned, and probably not long for a red ring) I'm pretty much done with the console as a whole. With this new dash, it pretty much means I'm done with the 360 entirely now, but it would be nice to know there's a chance I can still play any new games that come out in the future. If not well, it's not like MS has been getting any of my money, and I'm not about to start just because of this.


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 07:59    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:


So far AP25 is only *known* to exist on a few games and of those only two are actually confirmed; Fifa 09 and Fable 3.

Fifa 09? Confused
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 09:50    Post subject:
grapper wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:


So far AP25 is only *known* to exist on a few games and of those only two are actually confirmed; Fifa 09 and Fable 3.

Fifa 09? Confused


I know, weird isn't it? MS have had AP25 as part of drive firmwares for years and, according to c4eva, the actual protocol was first discovered in FIFA 09.
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 10:13    Post subject:
It might affect new games or only some of them.

Meybe its just a coincidence with fable3.


Btw. Does fable3 boot on first beta of new dash? 416 version? Becouse I have that and 1.61LT


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 11:03    Post subject:
Will the activation disc work with the AP25 thingy?
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 11:05    Post subject:
What the hell is actvation disk?!


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 11:37    Post subject:
Anyone tested the new dashboard with some games??
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 11:51    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
What the hell is actvation disk?!
Laughing a thing taht disable wave checks on Ixtreme 1.6


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 12:37    Post subject:
yeah useless fucking FW
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