Fallout: New Vegas
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chiv




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 05:47    Post subject:
so just a quick question... just glancing over posts occasionally, theres some complaints... are we thinking shitty crack, or shitty programming in-game at this point?


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 05:48    Post subject:
It's Obsidian. On the GameBryo engine.



'nuff said.
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dodger2020




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 05:50    Post subject:
Bad_MF wrote:
NoLiMiTSoLDieR wrote:
Aight so i started playing, and noticed my framerate dipped from 60+ to 20 in the introduction.
No fuss i ignored it, untill i left the house, it was stuck at 22 an unplayable rate.
After strugglin with the settings i gave up and fired up XP, guess what rock solid performance.

Tested this two times on the exact same location (save spot), W7 would stick at 20 fps, while xp it goes up to 50.
Strange shit if you ask me, anyways im back to the game, starting actually.

All on ultra settings btw. 1920x1080 no aa.


I can confirm this. Just tried it myself. Win7x64 => 20fps, XP => 60fps. Same settings, same savegame.
Guess i play on XP until a patch comes.


It's not win7 64 bit by itself. Has to be it and some combination of something else you have. Because I'm running win7 64bit and have no problems at all so far (save for a minor scrolling issue)
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chiv




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 05:50    Post subject:
so we're going with alpha protocol all over again, then?


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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 05:51    Post subject:
Hmmmm. For those of you guys who are running Win7 64bit like I am, you could try running FalloutNV.exe in Windows XP (Service Pack 3) compatibility mode. Did a brief test and it seems there's a considerable performance boost.

I don't have any FPS-measuring apps handy right now, but still, check it out!
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 05:54    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
so we're going with alpha protocol all over again, then?


Not at all.

Only thing I've encountered so far is the fucked mouse acceleration which was really easy to fix.
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Bad_MF




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 05:57    Post subject:
dodger2020 wrote:
Bad_MF wrote:


I can confirm this. Just tried it myself. Win7x64 => 20fps, XP => 60fps. Same settings, same savegame.
Guess i play on XP until a patch comes.


It's not win7 64 bit by itself. Has to be it and some combination of something else you have. Because I'm running win7 64bit and have no problems at all so far (save for a minor scrolling issue)


Then you must be one of the lucky few. Check the bethesda forums:
http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1122897-is-everyone-with-win7-64-bit-having-problems/

What are your specs and how is your framerate?
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zellar




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 06:01    Post subject:
Could a tech wiz here have a look at my trouble with crashing in this game please. I am using a nvidia gtx 260 vid card with the latest driver 260.89. I have installed the skidrow version. Followed nfo instructions. The game starts.. shows 2 screens...then crashes. I use the launcher.exe to set screen 1920x1080 16.9. That is my native rez. I have been at this for a long time..and I just don't get why it is crashing. I have looked every where for a solution...with no luck...fingers crossed! Here is the error message

Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: FalloutNV.exe
Application Version: 1.0.0.240
Application Timestamp: 4c9808f2
Fault Module Name: StackHash_2264
Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 02acb5ed
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.48
Locale ID: 4105


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dodger2020




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 06:05    Post subject:
Bad_MF wrote:
dodger2020 wrote:
Bad_MF wrote:


I can confirm this. Just tried it myself. Win7x64 => 20fps, XP => 60fps. Same settings, same savegame.
Guess i play on XP until a patch comes.


It's not win7 64 bit by itself. Has to be it and some combination of something else you have. Because I'm running win7 64bit and have no problems at all so far (save for a minor scrolling issue)


Then you must be one of the lucky few. Check the bethesda forums:
http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1122897-is-everyone-with-win7-64-bit-having-problems/

What are your specs and how is your framerate?


My specs are shit, honestly. E2140 running at 2.4ghz. old P5LD2 mobo. 4gb mismatched slow ram (I think 2gb ddr2-400 and 2gb ddr2-533 ?). 9800 GTX+. I run it on my 720p tv so I run everything at 1360x768. High details. Not sure of framerate as I don't have fraps. But it runs smooth. Haven't encountered any stuttering yet but I've only played about 30 minutes maybe.

As far as the game, downloaded the SR iso and installed it. copied the two exe files. I
told the installed to run the DX and VC redists but they failed, needed escalation. ran the dx update as admin. did NOT run the redist. Didn't tweak any settings, went with the default high settings it recommended. Also didn't mess with any DLC as it's all shit that will get replaced quickly anyway.

Also, a few days ago I downloaded the latest (at the time at least) win7x64 beta nvidia drivers . 260.89

maybe the problems are for people that have dx11 cards? maybe running it in XP or xp mode forces it to use dx9 or 10 (was 10 available for xp? I can't remember) which makes the problem go away?
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Bad_MF




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 06:13    Post subject:
Ok, you are THE lucky one. Wink Smooth gameplay with those specs and my rig struggles to go above 20fps in Win7(Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition/ GTX 460 1Gig, 4gig Corsair DDR2)
It has to be some driver + OS + whatever issue. WinXP = triple frames Confused
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dodger2020




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 06:18    Post subject:
granted, it takes a bit less "oomph" to run at 1360x768 than the high resolutions some of you guys run Smile

Also, smooth to me might not be smooth to you. I'm happy with anything over 30 fps Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 06:19    Post subject:
I must have the luck of the fucking Irish. Played for about 5 hours on the PC version (way more enjoyable than the XBOX) - zero crashes. FPS issues, but I have a crap video card anyway (nvidia 9600).


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djaoni




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 06:22    Post subject:
Running fine here at 1920x1080 Win7 x64 with GTX 285, Q9400 and only 2GB of ram. I didn't change any of the view distances at all and not using any of the DLC.
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Sertorius




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 06:53    Post subject:
how many FPS should be acceptable for you guys ? In my case, 30 approx. would be OK if all high or very high settings are ON and there is no possible crash.
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chiv




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 06:59    Post subject:
i need atleast 50

i can play @ 30, but ill notice the lack of smoothness, and itll bother me.


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dodger2020




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 07:35    Post subject:
I just went through the ghost town quest helping the ringo guy out. No slowdowns at all even with the townspeople helping when the bad guys when they showed up. I'm loving the game so far. This is going to be a definite buy for me. I'd really like to get the collector's edition to go with the lunchbox from Fallout3 but can't justify that right now. All my money goes toward flying right now. Going to be broke the rest of my life... probably using the same shitty computer too Very Happy
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Sertorius




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 07:40    Post subject:
dodger2020 wrote:
I just went through the ghost town quest helping the ringo guy out. No slowdowns at all even with the townspeople helping when the bad guys when they showed up. I'm loving the game so far. This is going to be a definite buy for me. I'd really like to get the collector's edition to go with the lunchbox from Fallout3 but can't justify that right now. All my money goes toward flying right now. Going to be broke the rest of my life... probably using the same shitty computer too Very Happy

poor guy, amen.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 07:56    Post subject:
Animations can hang and bug out in New Vegas too it seems, happened in Oblivion and occasionally in Fallout3 but I've never encountered this issue myself.



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Pey




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 07:57    Post subject:
Hahaah creepy stuff.


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Mafste




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 08:06    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Animations can hang and bug out in New Vegas too it seems, happened in Oblivion and occasionally in Fallout3 but I've never encountered this issue myself.


Lol'd

I thought the performance issue was PC related so I went back to my xbox lol.
Guess I'll play around with the PC version a bit more to see if I can improve it Smile
Can't be bothered with installing XP though.
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 08:15    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Animations can hang and bug out in New Vegas too it seems, happened in Oblivion and occasionally in Fallout3 but I've never encountered this issue myself.



Fallout? This is Exorcist!
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gum11




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 08:19    Post subject:
changing the compatibility for the launcher/game exe to xp service pack 5 fixed all performance problems for me
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 08:46    Post subject:
Heh, somewhat funny I admit, unsure why some people get that performance problem though, it works here with the original exe (Skidrows crack is said to improve performance as Steam isn't interfering with anything such as it's overlay hook and Steamworks.) and runs pretty well despite all mods used and INI file tweaks, will run even better once certain FOSE mods (And FOSE itself.) have been made compatible with New Vegas though it doesn't run bad or stutter much at all aside from city environments and that's just briefly until it's all loaded.
(Possibly due to the various INI tweaks done but it's not like you can work miracles with it and I've tweaked for visual quality and not performance so it should run far worse.)

EDIT: More screens.


(About done what I can do down here, about to head to Vegas Strip and I expect performance to suffer a bit once I reach that area, found some neat stuff via exploration though so it's worth checking the surroundings for points of interest.)

(Had my ass handed to me by a group of Feral Ghoul Reavers, nice to see they're still along though I'll return the favor once I find a suitable weapon and armor suit, must be guarding something.)

EDIT: Said pistol was found right where the image is taken.
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Radamez




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 09:24    Post subject:
Thankfully I kept XP on a seperate partition for a rainy day. The FPS drop from NPC animations is just too annoying to endure.

Other than that, still don't have the time to sit down for a proper game yet :/
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IvanGrozny
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 09:26    Post subject:
: hardcore + very hard difficulty =great fun!!
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 09:27    Post subject:
Game crash whenever I want to use one of those DLC items, guess because /meshes/ and /textures/ are missing, but where I can found them ? ...

Found one file in JB's post but still crash :/
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sueil




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 09:28    Post subject:
Decided to take a break from a long play session. So happy with this game so far. Everything about it is just really nice. The writing, the story, the characters the voice actors. The small gameplay tweaks are pretty nice too.
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 09:30    Post subject:
xExtreme wrote:
Game crash whenever I want to use one of those DLC items, guess because /meshes/ and /textures/ are missing, but where I can found them ? ...

Found one file in JB's post but still crash :/
I guess you haven't followed the topic, 1 page back: http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1330943#1330943

sabin posted a link with all 4 preorder DLC's that work!
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 09:32    Post subject:
Cabola wrote:
xExtreme wrote:
Game crash whenever I want to use one of those DLC items, guess because /meshes/ and /textures/ are missing, but where I can found them ? ...

Found one file in JB's post but still crash :/
I guess you haven't followed the topic, 1 page back: http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1330943#1330943

sabin posted a link with all 4 preorder DLC's that work!


Got them but the game still crash. Crying or Very sad

Edit : Problem solved.


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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Oct 2010 09:33    Post subject:
plays fine at 60fps for me, high settings 2xAA 8xAF
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