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Epsilon
Dr. Strangelove
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 Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 02:01 Post subject: |
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| inz wrote: | Yeah. Fallout used to be about hitting thieving bastard kids to the groin with a sledgehammer, but Bethesda took that away. They took it all away.  |
I thought it was about making little pianos.
| Quote: | # 0. Look
{100}{}{You see a thin, greasy looking, man.}
{150}{}{You see Flick, giving his groin a thorough scratching.}
{151}{}{You see an unclean fellow with a nasty facial-twitch.}
# 1. Low Intelligence (WtG)
{200}{}{Get outta heeya, you dumb-ass.}
{201}{}{Hey meatball! Yeah, you. Get outta heeya.}
{202}{}{You dumb or sumpin'?}
{203}{}{Whatchur problem, eh?}
{204}{}{Get the hell outta heeya.}
# 2. Hello (WtG, 3,4,6,7,911,12,13)
{220}{}{Hey der, I'm Flick. What the fuck do you want, huh?}
{221}{}{Now what? You wastin' my time heeya.}
{222}{}{What's with the wacky accent, Flick?}
{223}{}{What the hell do you do here?}
{224}{}{I'm looking for a Vault - oh yeah, and some trader named Vic, too. Know where they might be?}
{225}{}{I'd like to trade with you.}
# 3. After Barter (2,3,9)
{240}{}{That 'bout do it for ya, pal?}
{241}{}{Actually I'd like to take another look at your goods if I may.}
{242}{}{Actually, I'd like to ask you a question.}
{243}{}{That did it. See you around Flick.}
# 4. What do you do here (2)
{260}{}{I'm a fuckin' provider, waddya think? I'm like a good Samurai-itan guy.}
{261}{}{Say what?}
{262}{}{Yeah, uh, well'let me ask you something else.}
{263}{}{Uh, oh. OK. Goodbye, Flick.}
# 5. You do what? (4)
{280}{}{I provide fer them little paisanos.}
{281}{}{You provide little pianos?}
# 6. Pianos?(5)
{290}{}{Pai-san-o, you know, the kids. My kids.}
{291}{}{Your kids?}
{292}{}{Well, I'm not really interested in music lessons for children. Let me ask you about something else.}
# 7. Your kids? (6)
{300}{}{Yeah, well they work for me. They bring me things. Little things. You know.}
{301}{}{Uh, no.}
{302}{}{Oh, OK. Let me ask you something else then.}
{303}{}{Ah, I see. Well, I don't want to cramp your, uh, style. Goodbye.}
# 8. They bring you things? (7)
{315}{}{They bring me stuff what they find. Little, little things. Stuff no one ain't usin' no more. In return, I takes care of 'em.}
{316}{}{Sounds like a nice arrangement.}
# 9. Nice arrangement (
{325}{}{(Flick shrugs) I get by OK.}
{326}{}{Let me ask you about something else then.}
{327}{}{They must have brought you some real bargains. Let's see what you've got.}
{328}{}{Just checking. Well, goodbye Flick.}
# 10. Wacky accent? (2)
{340}{}{What you talkin' about? You think I'm a fucking stupid pirla? Some dumb filio di puttana? You think I'm some kinda clown? Am I here to amuse you, is that it?}
{341}{}{Uh, no. Sorry, I was just curious. Let me ask you about something else.}
{342}{}{Yeah, that's right, shithead. And nothing's going to amuse me more than your death-throes.}
{343}{}{Well, if you're going to get all huffy about it, I'm leaving.} |
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W123
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 02:17 Post subject: |
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| dissident wrote: | The only people trying to get 'instant old school street cred' are those bashing the fans of FO3 with ridiculous generalisations like that one.
I played the original fallouts when they came out and countless old school rpgs yet Fallout 3 is one of my fave games of all time. It had an awesome atmosphere. The combat system was clunky as hell but really thats not what Fallout has ever been about. |
Who give a fuck about nerd street cred. All I'm saying is most xboxers never even heard of the fallout series.
Disagree with you about the Fallouts' combat systems... combat was fun (except for fighting hordes of rats) and satisfying.. and there was a LOT of it and thus a big part of the game. Fallout 3's was satisfying too when you'd get crits and see eyeballs flying everywhere but IMO is clunky as you said.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 02:45 Post subject: |
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I'm looking for my father. Middle-aged guy. Maybe you've seen him?
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 02:46 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 02:48 Post subject: |
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Not saying the combat wasn't fun but you have to agree it could have been improved upon. It's mainly a limitation of the Gamebryo engine though, the same game on a more authentic FPS engine would have been awesome.
Iron sights are in New Vegas though and look great, and shooting through the sights seems to always hit where you are aiming, unlike in FO3 where even single shots seemed to spray around.
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Epsilon
Dr. Strangelove
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 02:48 Post subject: |
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Fallout 3? as far as I'm concerned it was scrapped by the idiots at Interplay.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 02:54 Post subject: |
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| dissident wrote: | | and shooting through the sights seems to always hit where you are aiming |
Doubtful, it's more likely that the characters used in showcase videos and such till now have had perfect stats and attributes for demonstration's sake. Obsidian has tried to put more emphasis on the importance of SPECIAL stats this time around, and Perception for example improves your accuracy.
Perception
A perceptive cowboy always knows when there's a lit stick of dynamite nearby... or when a varmint's sneakin' up on him. Perception affects your Explosives skill, Lockpick skill, Energy Weapons skill, overall accuracy, and compass range.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 02:56 Post subject: |
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I think that it means accuracy in vats because I have been watching streams where guys with absolutely no skill in guns could still get consistent headshots aiming down the sights. I could be wrong, but I hope not. Doesn't make sense to me in games where you are steadily aiming down the sights but the bullet ends up swerving away somewhere else.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 03:01 Post subject: |
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There were mods to remove that for FO3.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 03:08 Post subject: |
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| dissident wrote: | | I have been watching streams where guys with absolutely no skill in guns could still get consistent headshots aiming down the sights. |
That would put Perception right back to its FO3 status as a dump stat, then. The increased compass range is a poor benefit considering I don't much like the compass to begin with.
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Epsilon
Dr. Strangelove
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 03:26 Post subject: |
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| inz wrote: | | dissident wrote: | | I have been watching streams where guys with absolutely no skill in guns could still get consistent headshots aiming down the sights. |
That would put Perception right back to its FO3 status as a dump stat, then. The increased compass range is a poor benefit considering I don't much like the compass to begin with. |
I wonder if the game will actually adapt if you make a character with low int, like the proper crpgs of old.
I want to make a headbashing brute that communicates through flatulence and violence and play with the wacky wasteland trait, and I want the dialogue to actually depict this. |
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doobzilla
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 03:27 Post subject: |
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| dissident wrote: | | I think that it means accuracy in vats because I have been watching streams where guys with absolutely no skill in guns could still get consistent headshots aiming down the sights. I could be wrong, but I hope not. Doesn't make sense to me in games where you are steadily aiming down the sights but the bullet ends up swerving away somewhere else. |
This.
I've played a bit on the 360 and I have to agree with the above quoted text. I have next to no skill in guns yet I hit consistent headshots from a good distance away with certain firearms.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 03:33 Post subject: |
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| inz wrote: | | That would put Perception right back to its FO3 status as a dump stat, then. The increased compass range is a poor benefit considering I don't much like the compass to begin with. |
Depends how often people like to use VATS I guess. The accuracy will be handy in VATS to get fast shots off and hitting multiple enemies, but not sure if the tradeoff would be worth it. Also, all the gun related perks I've seen so far only require 6 PER max (Sniper etc) so any higher seems a waste.
By the way, anyone thinking of increasing a SPECIAL stat to 10 at the start might want to hold off on that as each one can be increased by +1 in the game similar to bobbleheads. I'll spoiler the how in case anyone wants to be surprised.
 Spoiler: | Implants can be bought from the New Vegas medical center. You can get a +1 implant for a SPECIAL stat for 4k caps each. There are also implants for damage reduction at 8k and health regen at 12k. |
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 03:36 Post subject: |
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| dissident wrote: |
| Spoiler: | Implants can be bought from the New Vegas medical center. You can get a +1 implant for a SPECIAL stat for 4k caps each. There are also implants for damage reduction at 8k and health regen at 12k. |
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| Spoiler: | There is an Endurance requirement - the more implants you want the higher your endurance needs to be. You need 9 endurance to get all 9 implants, but of course you can get the endurance implant first so you can start with 8 endurance. |
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Hara
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smith01
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 04:07 Post subject: |
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Here's why making release day DLCs prevents me, an avid fallout fan, from buying New Vegas!
I want it all - ALL, every piece of content for this game - I must have it. New Vegas' devs thought it would be a good idea to give extra content to each venue the game is sold at. For example, Steam users get the caravan pack, while gamestop customers get vaults suits etc.
Not only are they going to release a goty later one, that will include all dlcs for a sexy price, but now they pull this different-dlc-for-every-retailer crap.
I hate dlcs so much, but I still buy games that have them while completely ignoring the dlcs that come out later. A game is a game, they shouldn't withhold content just for an extra buck. Can you imagine how lame it would be if movies did that too? oh... wait, I forgot about extended/director cuts...
This world is going to hell...
Anyway, I will wait for some cool dude to compile all the dlcs into one .bsa/.esm and get it without missing a thing!
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W123
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 04:25 Post subject: |
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| smith01 wrote: | Here's why making release day DLCs prevents me, an avid fallout fan, from buying New Vegas!
I want it all - ALL, every piece of content for this game - I must have it. New Vegas' devs thought it would be a good idea to give extra content to each venue the game is sold at. For example, Steam users get the caravan pack, while gamestop customers get vaults suits etc.
Not only are they going to release a goty later one, that will include all dlcs for a sexy price, but now they pull this different-dlc-for-every-retailer crap.
I hate dlcs so much, but I still buy games that have them while completely ignoring the dlcs that come out later. A game is a game, they shouldn't withhold content just for an extra buck. Can you imagine how lame it would be if movies did that too? oh... wait, I forgot about extended/director cuts...
This world is going to hell...
Anyway, I will wait for some cool dude to compile all the dlcs into one .bsa/.esm and get it without missing a thing! |
Stop justifying pirating the game.. i dont care if you pirate it or not, but justifying it is annoying as hell. Buy the full game then and pirate the DLCs. Do you also write a letter to the developer and publisher stating why you've pirated their game? How do they know they are losing your sale to DLC anyways?
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smith01
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 04:34 Post subject: |
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| W123 wrote: | | smith01 wrote: | Here's why making release day DLCs prevents me, an avid fallout fan, from buying New Vegas!
I want it all - ALL, every piece of content for this game - I must have it. New Vegas' devs thought it would be a good idea to give extra content to each venue the game is sold at. For example, Steam users get the caravan pack, while gamestop customers get vaults suits etc.
Not only are they going to release a goty later one, that will include all dlcs for a sexy price, but now they pull this different-dlc-for-every-retailer crap.
I hate dlcs so much, but I still buy games that have them while completely ignoring the dlcs that come out later. A game is a game, they shouldn't withhold content just for an extra buck. Can you imagine how lame it would be if movies did that too? oh... wait, I forgot about extended/director cuts...
This world is going to hell...
Anyway, I will wait for some cool dude to compile all the dlcs into one .bsa/.esm and get it without missing a thing! |
Stop justifying pirating the game.. i dont care if you pirate it or not, but justifying it is annoying as hell. Buy the full game then and pirate the DLCs. Do you also write a letter to the developer and publisher stating why you've pirated their game? How do they know they are losing your sale to DLC anyways? |
A. I did write em a long ass letter.
B. I will buy the game when the GOTY comes out.
C. Buying it now as a pre-order will give me one dlc which is the worst thing, because then I'll be dragged into buying them all.
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chiv
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 04:45 Post subject: |
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since when was having a rant a LESS preferable choice than finding a way to solve ones own gripe?
rant away, brother. rant away.
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smith01
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 05:09 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | since when was having a rant a LESS preferable choice than finding a way to solve ones own gripe?
rant away, brother. rant away. |
Hey, Adam Carolla made a career out of it...
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 05:27 Post subject: |
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Did they just push back the unlock time?
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chiv
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 05:31 Post subject: |
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the irony is that as much as i want it, and all the IS IT OUT YET shit, ill probably leave it in a folder and forget about it for 2 years like i did fallout 3, before finally getting stuck in to the game, and resurrecting the topic just to rant how awesome fun im finding it... you know... like i did with fallout 3... 
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Ashmolly
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 05:31 Post subject: |
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| Cyborgmatt wrote: | | Did they just push back the unlock time? |
4 hours here!?!?!?! Looks about right to me!
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chiv
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 05:31 Post subject: |
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smith01
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 05:53 Post subject: |
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Oh yeah. I definitely will have to VPN this shit. No way am I waiting for a scene release or the European release. Hell, I even became sick today, it's like the world wants me to spend the day playing fallout.
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dialogue like in FO1 & 2:
