I'm trying to be argumentative, just like the images u posted above.
And you fail. Your last couple of messages have been nothing but useless hollow trolling shit without a single piece of info in them. It really doesn't matter to me if you like Pes better, but you could try to explain yourself better with some facts from the game.
I haven't been a fan of Fifa games for years due to the shit quality of their pc versions. I like this year's Fifa even if it's nothing but a port from last years console versions. It has it's faults but it's getting better. For example cpu defenders tend to win every single header in the penalty box and it isn't just because I can't put in the header right as I win them more often in the other parts of the field. It takes one aspect of the game away from me as headed goals are so rare. Other miss in the game is the ref who let's cpu do basically anything in the field without giving a freekick or a penalty. When I try to take the ball away even a small nudge earns cpu a freekick.
Pes 2011 is the best Pes since Pes 6. It ain't much since between Pes 6 and Pes 2011 Konami released crap. They still haven't revolutionized anything in the game since it would take a completely new game engine to do that. Yet they have sparked my interest with some nice features. Passing is really nice and there are still some special moments in the game that makes the match feel unique. The demo wasn't enough to give me a full view of the game but I am hopeful. My friend (a former pes fan) who has played Fifa's console versions for the last couple of years has told me that the single player games in Fifa tend to get schematic (not sure if this is the right word ). Meaning they tend to start feeling the same every time. No varieties that made Pes so special back in the days. Not sure if this years Pes will deliver this way but I am more hopeful about it than Fifa.
Still I hope Konami opens their eyes and really make a completely new engine.
the single player games in Fifa tend to get schematic .
yeah. schematic. repetitive. saw that every game . i know where the ball is going. i know how this is gonna happen.it becomes tedious and boring > arcadey feel.
on the other hand when i'm playing PES i have no clue how things will develop and despite the clumsy animations ..this unpredactibility of the game is what matters the most in a sports game !
ooh look how pretty the players fall down and the transition between the animations is impressive.
you will see all these things in 1-2 months and after that the game is gonna fall apart.
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Surprises me seeing some of the vet gamers over here praise games like Gothic/Risen (and correctly so) a game with terrible animations, but with deep rewarding gameplay, being unable to waste some time with Pes and discover the same.
You're making assumptions, bad animations alone do not make this game inferior to Fifa. I also didn't see the "deep rewarding gameplay" you keep mentioning while I play PES2011 too because my friends play it.
Surprises me seeing some of the vet gamers over here praise games like Gothic/Risen (and correctly so) a game with terrible animations, but with deep rewarding gameplay, being unable to waste some time with Pes and discover the same.
You're making assumptions, bad animations alone do not make this game inferior to Fifa. I also didn't see the "deep rewarding gameplay" you keep mentioning while I play PES2011 too because my friends play it.
Well i was referring to previous iterations since it's too soon to say the same about Pes11 (the game just got out yesterday). But keep playing, and if Konami did the job right, by the time you become bored of Fifa, you'll fall in love with Pes.
all this years i was playing pes, but now its fifa for me.
really ... how can anyone say pes will be better this year?
this guy is blind, fanboy or scared that no one will play online with him (cause no one will buy it)
Maybe the smoothness of the animations and fluidity of gameplay makes people think FIFA 11 is arcadey?
I can't explain it really...The overall presentation doesnt do it for someone like me who has been watching and playing real football for 20 years now.
I have played the full FIFA game and the PES demo and it is going to be Pro Evolution Soccer this year.
you cant say that without your points why.,.. if your 20 year player non pro semi whatever and you been following the games over the years, let us know why you think its PES for you this year.. tnx
you cant say that without your points why.,.. if your 20 year player non pro semi whatever and you been following the games over the years, let us know why you think its PES for you this year.. tnx
That's just the point, I am not a critic, I am not one to spot the differences and put them into words, I can just say it feels more realistic, and I don't care for graphics or if a players hand goes through another players chest and that sort of thing.
I am not bothered to spell out the differences.
Just wanted to share my decision for this year, not to make a point.
So noone playing this? Is FIFA really THAT much better or what?
Pes lost it fans many moons ago by selling us games what were riddled with bugs year after year they failed to fix them
They don't deserve another chance.
So noone playing this? Is FIFA really THAT much better or what?
Pes lost it fans many moons ago by selling us games what were riddled with bugs year after year they failed to fix them
They don't deserve another chance.
You can say the same about Fifa Pc. Ea have been toying with us since ever. Even this year, giving us 10,5 and not 11.
You can say the same about Fifa Pc. Ea have been toying with us since ever. Even this year, giving us 10,5 and not 11.
True, but the difference is FIFA 10.5 is still a lot better than what Konami has been throwing at all platforms for the last few years. Heck, even FIFA 10.1 would be better. So sure, FIFA 11 PC is bittersweet, but still preferred to the sorrow experience that is PES. :\
Morally speaking, KONAMI deserves some respect since they have always given us a PC version identical to the consoles' one, but qualitatively speaking EA and their FIFA 10.5 definitely get the crown this year, there's no doubt about that.
well the PC version is confimred as CRAP, at least for BAL mode, if you play it on anything above idiot mode it decides to turn your team into turn around clowns and you have to do everything youself only to run out of energy and get subbed off....
Jap shit again sadly, hopefully PS3 will be better as fifa is also dog shit this year.
well the PC version is confimred as CRAP, at least for BAL mode, if you play it on anything above idiot mode it decides to turn your team into turn around clowns and you have to do everything youself only to run out of energy and get subbed off....
Jap shit again sadly, hopefully PS3 will be better as fifa is also dog shit this year.
That's not true. They are idiots sometimes, yeah, but you don't need to do everything by yourself. And you need to have the Teamplay skill high with the current team, so your teammates can give you better balls and stuff like that.
I've played 3-4 years now and I like it.
well the PC version is confimred as CRAP, at least for BAL mode, if you play it on anything above idiot mode it decides to turn your team into turn around clowns and you have to do everything youself only to run out of energy and get subbed off....
Jap shit again sadly, hopefully PS3 will be better as fifa is also dog shit this year.
Fifa dog shit?
AGAIN?
Last years was the best football game made 'PERIOD'.
This year they have added 'bits' and streamlined the game play as i didn't really like fifa10 game play overall much.
And this years title is miles better then 10.
Just needs patches.
So how is it shit?
Be thankfull that there are 2 heavyweight football sims to choose from. Otherwise we would just be stuck with the one and whether it be Konami or EA they probably wouldn't change anything at all except for updated team rosters if we had no choice.
They are both good in their own right. Personally I have always thought that a sim which took the best bits of both games would be the ultimate football game.
well the PC version is confimred as CRAP, at least for BAL mode, if you play it on anything above idiot mode it decides to turn your team into turn around clowns and you have to do everything youself only to run out of energy and get subbed off....
Jap shit again sadly, hopefully PS3 will be better as fifa is also dog shit this year.
Fifa dog shit?
AGAIN?
Last years was the best football game made 'PERIOD'.
This year they have added 'bits' and streamlined the game play as i didn't really like fifa10 game play overall much.
And this years title is miles better then 10.
Just needs patches.
So how is it shit?
It seems you know why already, you say last years was the best game ever then you say this one is better.
well the PC version is confimred as CRAP, at least for BAL mode, if you play it on anything above idiot mode it decides to turn your team into turn around clowns and you have to do everything youself only to run out of energy and get subbed off....
Jap shit again sadly, hopefully PS3 will be better as fifa is also dog shit this year.
Fifa dog shit?
AGAIN?
Last years was the best football game made 'PERIOD'.
This year they have added 'bits' and streamlined the game play as i didn't really like fifa10 game play overall much.
And this years title is miles better then 10.
Just needs patches.
So how is it shit?
It seems you know why already, you say last years was the best game ever then you say this one is better.
Well yeah.
Last years was the best ever at the time.
Now this has improved on it a year later making it the best ever fifa this year round.
Next years well see, but no doub't will be the same.
The game is better than last year, but it ain't much. Players, even the good ones like Robben, turn around like tanks. The game engine is probably the worst I've ever seen. They did fix the ridiculous running animations and passing is nice, but all the other shit is still there. Wingers don't make runs up the field, ever. Konami has still managed to implement some Fifa style things into their game. The menus. They had to fix something that wasn't broken didn't they? Still menus in Fifa are such a pain in the ass that even Konami has a long way to go in that department but they are catching up. Ever tried to create a cup competition in Fifa? It takes longer to select the teams than actually playing the fucking tournament. And this has been the case for as long as I remember.
Fifa is the better game. And it will continue to be that way for as long as Konami keep holding on to this shit engine.
have they changed or improved the robotic player animations in this yet?
Nope.
And the hilarious thing is that Messi, who is the testimonial of the game and supposedly the one who contributed more to the motion capture sessions, has the worst animations of any other player in the game.
As far as I know, the animations are done by some Japanese player which got beat by the journalists.
But I don't think it's the actor that is at fault, I think the engine is just so old. It's like blaming the animation actors for FIFA 10 PC. Konami just has to work on a new engine.
As far as I know, the animations are done by some Japanese player which got beat by the journalists.
You're right, Messi was used in PES 2010, with poor results though
Look at his face, it screams "Meh"
Seriously, yes the actual engine has such an incredible number of limitations that it's basically impossible to fix all the issues both gameplay and visually wise
Am I the only one who thinks that in gamescom videos animations looked nice and now when I play it on my PC they look crap again? Also anyone noticed this akward sticky ball effect when movin (not runiing). I made a video so you can see it:
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). Meaning they tend to start feeling the same every time. No varieties that made Pes so special back in the days. Not sure if this years Pes will deliver this way but I am more hopeful about it than Fifa.
