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oldtimer




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 18:31    Post subject:
thanks for the help mate, this forum's great for helpfull info.
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Cyborgmatt




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 18:32    Post subject:
Theescapist wrote:
Can't see how this game is going to be any different then next years game?

Well there are some new tracks next year, changes in regulations, KERS is making a return etc.

There are a number of things they wanted in the game but didn't get them in, in time, like the safety car, improved damage system, full pit control, formation lap etc.

Not to mention that by then I think they'll be out of the contract with Microsoft to use GFWL, so we should have a better online system.
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dog-god




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 18:43    Post subject:
Maybe some others could check this on their systems
With everything set to the maximum at 1900x1200 getting about 40-50 fps with a q6600 running at 3ghz and a standard clocked 480
Gpu usage is under 50% so i assumed that the cpu was the bottleneck
well is is because it rarely goes over 60% usage with running the game. Any idea what is happening here ,ill check dirt2 later toninght but i would hit 100 + fps in that game ,just not sure what cpu usage is in it.
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psy676




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 18:48    Post subject:
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madness




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 18:50    Post subject:
When i'm trying to run this, all I get is a Razor logo with some funky music, then this:



Confused
mind you, my cpu is below min req, but it should still start, right ? Laughing
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snoop1050
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 18:52    Post subject:
dog-god wrote:
Maybe some others could check this on their systems
With everything set to the maximum at 1900x1200 getting about 40-50 fps with a q6600 running at 3ghz and a standard clocked 480
Gpu usage is under 50% so i assumed that the cpu was the bottleneck
well is is because it rarely goes over 60% usage with running the game. Any idea what is happening here ,ill check dirt2 later toninght but i would hit 100 + fps in that game ,just not sure what cpu usage is in it.


im getting like 70% cpu usage with a 1055t

ive seen a few nvidia people whos cards havent even left 2d clocks lol
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 19:03    Post subject:
regarding my no pit voice and radio sounds when out on track,,, ive noticed ive got it to work with chooseing quad sound on my x-fi 2 front 2 rear, if im in 5.1 no pit audio from speech only tools., and no ticking of clock in headsup display info... or menu sounds in that info window..

i hear some slight popping/crackling when loading first off to the pit workshop as well from over the top of the music playing so its bogus shit from codemasters...

The forum tech threads have these issues listed from others as well so im not alone..

the game itself is fucking great, all u pussies out there saying it looks shit and plays shit are fucking gay with a capital G... Very Happy

nothing but immersion from the weather and car setups.. my ff dont even work on my wheel no more and i still get immense fun out the game...
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 19:06    Post subject:
@madnessnaab
I really would like to help you, but unfortunately your screen doesn't say much (literally) Laughing

Have you updated your drivers and stuff like that?
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snoop1050
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 19:16    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
regarding my no pit voice and radio sounds when out on track,,, ive noticed ive got it to work with chooseing quad sound on my x-fi 2 front 2 rear, if im in 5.1 no pit audio from speech only tools., and no ticking of clock in headsup display info... or menu sounds in that info window..

i hear some slight popping/crackling when loading first off to the pit workshop as well from over the top of the music playing so its bogus shit from codemasters...

The forum tech threads have these issues listed from others as well so im not alone..

the game itself is fucking great, all u pussies out there saying it looks shit and plays shit are fucking gay with a capital G... Very Happy

nothing but immersion from the weather and car setups.. my ff dont even work on my wheel no more and i still get immense fun out the game...
most of us are just pissed off they promised stuff and then decided they are now waiting until 2011 instead....
graphics arent great either shift looks better :S
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madness




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 19:26    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
@madnessnaab
I really would like to help you, but unfortunately your screen doesn't say much (literally) Laughing

Have you updated your drivers and stuff like that?


yea .. seems i'm not the only one that has this problem too.
ah guess i'll wait til I have upgraded my machine, it would probably be a slideshow anyway with my current one Very Happy
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Kamikaze666




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 20:00    Post subject:
not so happy with me framerate, what're best options to turn low/off?


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psy676




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 20:03    Post subject:
me too can't run it well with high settings on 4850 (c2duo7500)

edit= i updated to 10.9 cat and turned all high/ultra it works ok with 25 fps ... low with 60 fps ok Smile


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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 20:03    Post subject:
just for comparison for everyone that has frame issues..

Im running dual core e6600@3.4ghz
1gb 4870 ati xfx
4gb ocz gold ram.

game runs all on ultra settings no lag not even on starting grid with all the cars... nor with weather in full downpour...

so if ur around the same specs no reason why you should not be able to fully enjoy the game..
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 20:06    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
just for comparison for everyone that has frame issues..

Im running dual core e6600@3.4ghz
1gb 4870 ati xfx
4gb ocz gold ram.

game runs all on ultra settings no lag not even on starting grid with all the cars... nor with weather in full downpour...

so if ur around the same specs no reason why you should not be able to fully enjoy the game..


What drivers are you using? (I've got a 4870 1gb too Wink )

I'm still sticked to the old 10.5, but simply because all the newst ones make Bad Company 2 almost unplayable due to intense framedrops and stuttering Crying or Very sad



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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 20:08    Post subject:
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Kamikaze666




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 20:10    Post subject:
my c2d only runs at 2.6 ghz...

but I have a ati 4890 1024 mb.

I run at 1080p res.


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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 21:14    Post subject:
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snoop1050
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 21:28    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qiXfE5EVrI

Ace driving...Spa..
how do you get youtube not to bastardise your video? what codec do you use?

it makes my perfectly gine x264 video all blocky and fucked up Sad
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emppapy




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 21:40    Post subject:
I don't get why the framerate is so bad compared to Dirt2. It's the same engine, isn't it ?

I ran Dirt2 at ~35fps 1280*720 and medium settings with AA2X.

With F12010, I can't get past 24-25fps 1280*720, low settings, no AA.


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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 21:48    Post subject:
yes its a bit odd it will probably be a mix of users settings and drivers etc, as it runs with vsync on here at always high fps with bells and whistles..

also window mode can scale it as u want, it says 800*600 in menu when u go to window mode but u can then change it...

ive seen no gfx changes in doing so anyhow.. full screen no diff but im always playing minecraft and doing other shit at same time as gaming Very Happy
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oldtimer




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 21:52    Post subject:
performance a bit shite here too.

on a single car time trial on a clear day average 50fps dipping to 35 ish at times.

1920x1080 all maxed ultra settings.

phenom x4 965
4gig mem
ati 5850 (10.9 drivers clean installed)

vsync on
system all stock no overclock.


i should be able to max this out no problem comparing it to other games like shift & the cpu heavy badcompany 2.
think theres something wrong somewhere game bug wise,& bound to be worse if i would have tried a race full of cars+ rain
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cirithungol




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 22:04    Post subject:
madnessnaab wrote:
When i'm trying to run this, all I get is a Razor logo with some funky music, then this:



Confused
mind you, my cpu is below min req, but it should still start, right ? Laughing


Same here Scratch Head
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Lancellot




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 22:17    Post subject:
emppapy wrote:
I don't get why the framerate is so bad compared to Grid2. It's the same engine, isn't it ?

I ran Grid2 at ~35fps 1280*720 and medium settings with AA2X.

With F12010, I can't get past 24-25fps 1280*720, low settings, no AA.


Grid 2? Are u from the future?
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emppapy




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 22:32    Post subject:
I wish I were ! But yeah sorry I meant Dirt2 of course.
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dog-god




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 23:17    Post subject:
Ive done some testing and it seems its either a game code or a graphic driver issue

Q6600 running at 3ghz, overclocked from standard 2.4ghz
Nvidia 480 at stock speed
1900x1200 everything maxed out

Average fps is from 40 to 50 fps but gpu is at less than 50% usage,

I assumed that it was a cpu bottleneck
so i ran the game in a window and my cpu usage never goes above 62% average for the cpu.
Checked cpu with everest and msi afterburner is giving me the gpu numbers.

Core 1 at 80%
Core 2 at 46%
Core 3 at 52%
Core 4 at 56%

Core 2 3 and 4 vary slightly but it only makes a 3 to 4 % to the overall cpu usage
going from 58% to 62% through out a race

core 1 is the highest but not maxed out with the other 3 cores running at anywhere from 46% up to 56% get the average of 60% in total.
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Q6600 running at 2.4ghz,NO overclock
Nvidia 480 at stock speed
1900x1200 everything maxed out

Average fps is from 40 to 50 fps but gpu is at less than 35% usage

CPU usage hit 62% at one instance but remains at a constant 60% for 95% of race
Cores 1 to 4 look almost identical to the ones ive posted above

Core 1 at 80%
Core 2 at 46%
Core 3 at 52%
Core 4 at 56%

The worst thing about this is the game when its in a window is only running at 800x600
Fps in game is the same as above
Average fps is from 40 to 50
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Then i changed the dx9 forced to false so its using dx 11 and my CPU usage dropped to
50% over all but no increase in fps

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The rapture audio driver seems also to be causing a lot of issues for people
with game pauses and lag issues
I have hardware and cant say im getting the pause,s other are talking about

going to the dx11 code fixed a lot of my lag
but the graphics are kinda shagged until a patch comes out.

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Dirt 2

Update still running the NON overclock
cpu at 2.4
stock 480

Also note im using the hardware audio in all tests, so im not having the issue that others are having with the audio taking cpu cycles.

tested with Dirt 2 windowed

Overall cpu usage is 73 average jumping up 3 to 4 % to hit 76 to 77 % at times

Core 1 84
Core 2 68
Core 3 62
Core 4 78

Fps ranging between 80 and 120 FPS with all graphical settings maxed on dx 11 settings

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Codemaster could do with changing their name to Codemonkeys
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Coban




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 23:19    Post subject:
Can some1 tell me where I can change damage options? I crashed few times to see how car will react, but it seems it behaves like nothing happened.
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dog-god




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 23:27    Post subject:
There are 3 damage option,
Off,Visual only,Full.

however dont mistake Full for what you may have been expecting(GRID or DIRT 1 and 2) ,its really only the front end that gets damaged.
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Theescapist




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 23:31    Post subject:
Engine blow outs happen in this game don't they?
Any vids of one happening?


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 23:39    Post subject:
this game is like 10 steps back from drit2 or even grid, why would anyone do that is beyond explanation
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Theescapist




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2010 23:43    Post subject:
Is getting very lame this is.
No 'real' damage, no engine blow out's.
What were they up to when developing this?
I haven't seen it at all but, ffs.
I get the game tomoz, hopefully after delays.
Just making me want to cancel it every time i hear something like this.


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hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
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