Activision leads the way in to the Brave New World
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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 14:31    Post subject: Activision leads the way in to the Brave New World
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-09-16-activision-planning-pay-to-view-game-movies

Now, I know what some of you might be thinking: but it's just extra footage ... we'll see about that actually ... Wink
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 14:38    Post subject:
Am I misreading it, or is he really saying taking out the FMV's and selling them seperately is a good idea?
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inz




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 14:40    Post subject:
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'Would you like to have the StarCraft movie?'... and say we have this great hour and a half of linear video that we'd like to make available to you at a $30 or $20 price point, you'd have the biggest opening weekend of any film ever," Kotick said.


No you wouldn't.
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 14:42    Post subject:
Why would anyone buy an animated movie, designed as an intro for a game, for 30 bucks? What stupidity is this?
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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 14:47    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Why would anyone buy an animated movie, designed as an intro for a game, for 30 bucks? What stupidity is this?


Stupidity many couchtards will pay for, I bet.
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chiv




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 14:50    Post subject:
how could anyone possibly say this wont make huge money, when fuckloads of people are willing to fork out money... real money... for a couple of fucking new in-game weapons or a couple of multiplayer maps!


activision is being smart by recognizing the massive stupidity of modern day mainstream 'gamers'.


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KaiKo




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 15:04    Post subject:
what is it to you guys anyway? you'll just pirate them.


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chiv




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 15:05    Post subject:
...I think hes got something there, steve...


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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 15:07    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Am I misreading it, or is he really saying taking out the FMV's and selling them seperately is a good idea?


No, he's talking about something like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VII_Advent_Children perhaps in a smaller scale and selling it directly to the customers via digital distribution.

Nothing that hasn't been done before or that other studios aren't thinking about.

Gabe Newell recently said that while they don't feel confident giving the ok to a movie studio to make a HL movie, they might make it themselves in Source, similar to the TF2 shorts.
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chiv




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 15:10    Post subject:
"If we were to take that hour, or hour and a half, take it out of the game..."

hes talking about the prerendered cinematics made for the game, but making them available as a standalone stiched together film.


and if that ISNT what he means, then hes getting himself confused and saying the wrong thing... because hes clearly talking about extracting the video 'out of the game'.




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 15:10    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
how could anyone possibly say this wont make huge money, when fuckloads of people are willing to fork out money... real money... for a couple of fucking new in-game weapons or a couple of multiplayer maps!


activision is being smart by recognizing the massive stupidity of modern day mainstream 'gamers'.


Pretty much this seeing how Activision publish games with the stupidest fans. I mean a freakin ornamental horse made millions for god's sake. Laughing


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Hfric




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 15:11    Post subject:
GUYS you simply don't get the idea ... few examples up to date that used this concept :
DEAD SPACE DOWNFALL (animated comic and a intro cartoon)
Date's Inferno

see EA did it no one bitched Activision wants to do it for future titles people bitch... wtf is wrong with you


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chiv




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 15:13    Post subject:
those are movies based on game franchises. that has nothing to do with - in his own words:

""If we were to take that hour, or hour and a half, take it out of the game"

like i said... either you're not getting it, or HES saying it wrong.


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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 15:13    Post subject:
next phase, pay to see the menu to be able to start the game Smile)
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chiv




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 15:15    Post subject:
he even goes on to say "great hour and a half of linear video"

linear video..hes clearly talking about stiched together cinematics... why else would he say linear video?

all videos are linear... not only is it a weird thing to say, its like saying 'moving picture video', its totally redundant, unless hes making a point




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 15:15    Post subject:
The man is practically begging to be pirated. He must be addressing this forum directly in a subliminal way, trying to explain how important it is to him that there exists a powerful incentive to get around paying for his products.
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chiv




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 15:18    Post subject:
the stupid thing is, i honestly think its a GOOD Idea.

i just think his method is fucked... 20-30 bucks? hes dreaming... but 5? have you seen the quality of the cgi in many prerendered cgi sequences these days? theyre fucking stunning... an hour... 90 minutes of THAT stuff, stiched together, without needing to load the game or seeing it in shitty second-hand quality, would be pretty cool if the price was right.

so yeah... good idea, but the guy is delusional @ the price hes suggesting.


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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 15:19    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
"If we were to take that hour, or hour and a half, take it out of the game..."

hes talking about the prerendered cinematics made for the game, but making them available as a standalone stiched together film.


and if that ISNT what he means, then hes getting himself confused and saying the wrong thing... because hes clearly talking about extracting the video 'out of the game'.


I take it he means something similar to the image quality of SC2's cinematics.
Because SC2's cinematics as they currently are, with gaps in the story etc, won't ever sell for 20-30$ as he suggests.

He must be talking about making a proper movie.

Also SC2's prerendered cinematics are only 13 minutes or so, so he definitely doesn't mean this.
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 15:21    Post subject:
and like i said, either he means cinematics or hes saying it wrong, because using words like 'take it out of the game' and 'linear video' just dont apply to making a proper movie 'from scratch'.


and if he thinks 'making a movie' is a novel and excitingly innovative idea, someone needs to break it to the poor guy that hes been somewhat 'beaten' to it... just a tad Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 15:26    Post subject:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/30305/Kotick_Hints_At_DirectToConsumer_Video_Game_Movies.php

Then he goes saying that:

if the company were to distribute a movie directly to consumers' homes, "an extremely high percentage [of consumers] would then go to the theater then watch it again. That's the nature of our consumer -- a very enthusiast consumer."

SC2's cinematics would never be released on theaters unless it's a proper movie.


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chiv




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 15:28    Post subject:
so i guess the guy is using all the wrong words... the mark of someone who doesnt really know exactly what hes selling perhaps?


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Timester




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 16:36    Post subject:
Someone needs to give a dictionary to Kotick. I do understand his idea (like the Advent Children example that was already given) and think that's actually good, but oh boy, he really sucks at PR.

What he want to say is to make machinama out of the games (something that Blizz already does on a short scale) and sell them.
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 19:06    Post subject:
We should just execute the guy already and show how true enthusiasts we are to our genre of murder, slaughter and destruction as entertainment.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 19:10    Post subject:
For this to work - they have to add more seqeuences between the ones the rip from the games.


shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Jan 2011 17:55    Post subject:
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=67180

Activision considers closing down Bizarre Creations (Blur / James Bond: Bloodstone) after failing to find a interested buyer.
(Comments suggests time spent looking for a interested buyer was inadequate but I have no idea, both games were a bit so-so though I don't know what else they've released.)
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Jan 2011 18:08    Post subject:
Kotick is a moron. I really dislike that guy, lots.


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Bendi




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 11:29    Post subject:
xDBS wrote:
Kotick is a moron. I really dislike that guy, lots.


No. People who buy map-packs for a lot of money are morons.

Kotick's more of an Evil Overlord.
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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2011 12:15    Post subject:
Kotick is a smart man, taking advantage of the idiocy of the new mainstream of gamers.

Not saying he is blameless in this, but if we, as gamers, had better taste and higher standards like in times past, then this would never happen.

WE are the stupid for not having gaming culture.
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