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 Posted: Sun, 12th Sep 2010 16:41 Post subject: Lucid dreams |
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Wondering if anybody has experienced one? Or if there is anybody who actually practicies it and uses different methods to go through lucid dreams.
Here is a FAQ about it: http://www.lucidity.com/LucidDreamingFAQ2.html
It's a very interesting concept and the reason for asking here is because i got a question. I'm thinking of trying it out and asking my subconscious what my biggest fear is, is that stupid because of the chances of psychological problems?
The whole concept seems cool but the risks of becoming crazy seem high, maybe i'm just a bit paranoid.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Sep 2010 16:53 Post subject: |
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lol you can't become crazy because of lucid dreaming 
To have proper lucid dreams you need to really practice. Keep dream journals, make reality checks, and so on. And it's a long process.
I had few, but they were short. I also did a research on it, but then saw that I'd loose interest in it, so I didn't try it.
I've heard tho that they are also a fun way of relieving stress. You can do what you want in your dreams 
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you can't ask your subconscious while lucid sleeping.
that's just... argh.
I've had/have lucid dreams.
They're cool, best part is when you decide to open your eyes and you'e staring at a brightly sunlit window. the feeling is rather... explosive.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Sep 2010 17:34 Post subject: |
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Sometimes I'm really tired and start fantasizing about different things and instead of loading a game I find the idea to go to sleep and explore my thoughts much more interesting
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Sep 2010 17:46 Post subject: |
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So one can control dreams? Does it really work?
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Sep 2010 17:56 Post subject: |
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yeah, but it gets boring after a while. 
it's all... meh... sort of.
a lot of people just close their eyes and use "imagination" and call it lucid dreaming. lawl.
you know you're dreaming, so you can change little things, and feel it... almost real... almost not... but your senses are awesomely wonky. I once thought i could smell, and fell when i was dreaming. It was weird and odd. usually, lucid dreams are nightmares where you think you woke up, but didn't. and you keep waking up, and you keep waking up, and it all feels real and amazing, and then you wake up and you still think you're dreaming so you rape a wall with your face, and then they find you days later, dead, because you haven't been for work.
yes. dream control works, takes time to practice and learn.
so does lucid dreaming. controlled lucid dreaming.
accidental lucid dreaming is cool and all, but knowing when you'll be lucid dreaming, and then doing it, that's when it's cool. 
my teach told me, to set up a faint alarm by your bed, around 2-3 am, if you went to bed at 10 or so. Also drink a glass of water before you go to sleep. your bladder will wake you ever so slightly.
Takes practice. A lot of people just wake up when they realize they're dreaming.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Sep 2010 18:09 Post subject: |
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Ah I see, what about dream paralysis? I've read some scary crap about a dark ghostlike being coming in and sitting on you etc while you feel paralyzed and cant do anything for a couple of minutes.
Reason for the interest is because a friend of mine practiced this during the summer and at the end when he got good at it he was finally able to control his dreams without a problem. He told me that he summoned his brother that had passed away from leukemia when he was young.
I don't think I have the same ambitions, would be fun to fly though as many seem to want to do that. Maybe Lutz being into psychology and such would be able to give some feedback on this.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Sep 2010 18:24 Post subject: |
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no dark ghostlike shits...
you cant summon people...
it's all your brain...
dream paralysis is just you wake up ahead of your body.
your body is still in sleep state.
you can't move it.
you can't do anything.
and then it jumps back.
you can have sex with anything you want.
do anything you want.
you're only limited by your 'imagination'
or shit you watch on tv.
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Sep 2010 15:45 Post subject: |
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I get sleep paralysis a lot. It can get annoying. Fully awake yet unable to move. Then I have to let myself fall asleep again to try and wake up normally.
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| MirkoOdora wrote: | | I get sleep paralysis a lot. It can get annoying. Fully awake yet unable to move. Then I have to let myself fall asleep again to try and wake up normally. |
Dude, that sounds like narcolepsy to me. Might be very worthwhile to speak to a doctor about that, if you haven't already.
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| Immunity wrote: | I have two or three a year, and they're fucking amazing to say the least.
What I'd give to be able to have them every night. I honestly don't think I'd get out of bed, as there wouldn't be a reason to! |
Lucid dream is the ultimate video game 
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Sep 2010 17:17 Post subject: |
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| MirkoOdora wrote: | | I get sleep paralysis a lot. It can get annoying. Fully awake yet unable to move. Then I have to let myself fall asleep again to try and wake up normally. |
I had this happen to me once - scared the ever living shit out of me. Thought I had twisted and broken my neck while asleep or something. Not fun....
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Sep 2010 22:44 Post subject: |
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I've had lucid dreaming many times where I could take control of what I was dreaming about.
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I've had some wierd thing's happen during sleep, basically hit by something in my dream, apparently hard enough for me to wake up and feel pain where i was hit, or being asleep, and my body jolting to wake me up, massive jolts, but the wierd one as i aformentioned is being woke up by something hitting me and feeling the pain waking.
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2010 09:39 Post subject: |
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Oh I still get that. I start to fall asleep and then either I feel like I'm falling or start to dream and in merely seconds sth hits me, or I fall and then woke up and I my whole body shakes (jolts)...
I find it funny and interesting
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2010 16:45 Post subject: |
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Lol wtf, never gotten that. how do you induce that?
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2010 16:49 Post subject: |
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That's some strange sleep related anomalies I'm reading here. Sleep paralysis and electrocution-like experiences sound especially disturbing to me 
I do have one weird sleeping habit of myself: sleepwalking. Jumping out of bed to switch on the light has happened too. The light switch is near the staircase by the way, look out below... And of course I once went out of bed to shave myself, made some breakfast... while I was still sleepwalking.
Thankfully those weird sleepwalking episodes haven't occurred for some time now.
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2010 17:29 Post subject: |
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| Razacka2 wrote: | | Lol wtf, never gotten that. how do you induce that? |
Falling in dreams occurred frequently while I was a kid. I don't have those dreams these days
I would dream that I'm falling (from a tall building or a stairs, it doesn't matter) and when I'd fell I would wake up with a twich and short sleep paralysis.
And these days it happens to me when I take a nap and watch TV. Then I get really sleepy and go to some semi dream state, and usually I think I'm falling from bed or sth like that and just jolt and wake up. Sometimes that comes with drooling 
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2010 17:54 Post subject: |
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jots/falling are you body checking you're not dead.
your body checks that your muscles and nerves aren't dead. 
think of it as post. power on self test
these problems are normal and common and a lot of people don't notice them 
when you're really really tired, after a stressful day and you just want to sleep, you might experience jolts and what not, but you could be asleep to notice.
paralysis, you could just think your body is numb, or even you open your eyes, stare at the ceiling and you don't want to move cause you're so comfortable, and you don't notice it.
people should get into lucid/ludic dreaming
but not too much.
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2010 18:00 Post subject: |
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go take some lsd and go to bed.
''The mind and body must be subjected to extreme stimulus, by means of drugs and music.'' - Hunter S. Thompson
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2010 19:28 Post subject: |
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I once had a period of about 2 weeks where I had lucid dreams every other night, none since then though. gutted, they were awesome.
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2010 21:04 Post subject: |
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i had a dream i was snowboarding most of last night it felt like - perfect snow and no one there - im pretty sure i was aware of my moves and i didnt crash - i woke up in the best mood in the morning
fuck ...
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