Elemental: War of Magic
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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 11:54    Post subject:
peter980 wrote:
Fun read:
http://forums.elementalgame.com/395485

The most interesting part:
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The rest is just drama and irrelevant stuff.
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Imoen




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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 15:00    Post subject:
I like brad. Not perfectly by a long shot, but god honest either way, even if it makes him look bad or good.
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adaml75




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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 15:48    Post subject:
Come on! Who cares about Brad? The game is important. And it's not so bad after last patch (they fixed disastrous stacking bug, among many other bugs). Still heroes are underpowered IMHO, but it's common complaint and I'm pretty sure they will fix it in 1.1. So wait for ver 1.1 and try the game then. In few months nobody will remember this mess.
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Raap




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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 16:04    Post subject:
I'm rather disappointed with the spell system, spell books and just spells in general. Was much better in the original MoM.

Also can't really figure the food/housing system. In my latest game only one of my cities actually had a farm(or whatever its called) and it was thus the only city producing food, except for the +1 food enchantments I cast on all my cities. Is it really supposed to be this way? I used the 'exploit' of destroying houses then rebuilding them in other cities to raise their levels, but I'm not sure what exactly they were planning with this thing.
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locke89




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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 19:24    Post subject:
You can advamce the Adventure tech. One of its branch discovers metal/food/other shit deposits around the map.
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Alastes
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Sep 2010 06:11    Post subject:
Damn I have been waiting for this game and White Gold forever but they never patched it. Almost forgot about them. I loved Boiling Point. I hope it works with my 5850
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dark63




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Sep 2010 06:33    Post subject:
perfect! i patched it to 1.07 and instead of failing to load new or saved game, the game simply doesn't launch at all. It's brilliant, with every patch, less and less of the game is playable!
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Big_Gun




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Sep 2010 13:13    Post subject:
dark63 wrote:
perfect! i patched it to 1.07 and instead of failing to load new or saved game, the game simply doesn't launch at all. It's brilliant, with every patch, less and less of the game is playable!



Not having that problem here.


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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Sep 2010 14:53    Post subject:
that dev guy seriously digging holes for himself with some of the shit hes been posting... guy cant make up his mind i feel ...

elemental war of tragic
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Imoen




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Sep 2010 16:04    Post subject:
If honest is shit you are right.
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fawe4




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Sep 2010 16:57    Post subject:
Imoen wrote:
If honest is shit you are right.


"A lot of people seem to think that Stardock knowingly released the game “full of bugs”. Unfortunately, this isn’t the case."

Thats a lie. Game was rushed and they are still denying that.
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Perdurab00




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Sep 2010 18:01    Post subject:
Either they are liars or idiots. And why wasn't anyone working on the actual game design - seems as if everyone was working on the engine. What did Brad say? Something like 95% of the development effort is needed for the engine, 5% on the actual game. Forget the novel, idiot - figure out the damn game first.


Epsilon: Game is great btw, I love it, so far it's a definite goty. It's remarkable how much has changed since the beta, stardock have been working their asses off, and it shows.
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Imoen




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Sep 2010 18:35    Post subject:
fawe4 wrote:
Imoen wrote:
If honest is shit you are right.


"A lot of people seem to think that Stardock knowingly released the game “full of bugs”. Unfortunately, this isn’t the case."

Thats a lie. Game was rushed and they are still denying that.


And why should we believe you instead of the makers of the game? What proof have you? This is god damn nonsense.
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Perdurab00




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Sep 2010 19:18    Post subject:
Well, what was the so-called 'beta test' actually for? Not for actually testing or improving the game. Seems as if it was just a cynical ploy to get people to preorder.


Epsilon: Game is great btw, I love it, so far it's a definite goty. It's remarkable how much has changed since the beta, stardock have been working their asses off, and it shows.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Sep 2010 19:47    Post subject:
Epsilon might be able to answer any specifics since he was part of the selected beta test team (Or how it worked.) but the beta was kept very simple until phase 4 (Of five in total.) with only the core mechanics at play, things might perhaps have been a bit rushed from there, intro movie survived and gives a hint of how it's changed as does some of Epsilon's earlier coverage of the game during it's beta phases.

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Perdurab00




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Sep 2010 19:53    Post subject:
Oh, I'm just posturing. I don't need an answer from anyone.


Epsilon: Game is great btw, I love it, so far it's a definite goty. It's remarkable how much has changed since the beta, stardock have been working their asses off, and it shows.
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fawe4




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Sep 2010 19:57    Post subject:
Imoen wrote:
fawe4 wrote:
Imoen wrote:
If honest is shit you are right.


"A lot of people seem to think that Stardock knowingly released the game “full of bugs”. Unfortunately, this isn’t the case."

Thats a lie. Game was rushed and they are still denying that.


And why should we believe you instead of the makers of the game? What proof have you? This is god damn nonsense.


You need a proof? Just look at the state of the game at release. Gamebreaking bugs and major perfomance problems everywhere. That is not something that accidentally gets overlooked by quality assurance team.
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Perdurab00




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Sep 2010 21:51    Post subject:
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peter980




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Sep 2010 23:47    Post subject:
Patch 1.08 will be out soon.

 Spoiler:
 


http://forums.elementalgame.com/396709
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locke89




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Sep 2010 00:38    Post subject:
Got my 75% refund and not touching it before 1.10.
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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Sep 2010 04:00    Post subject:
locke89 wrote:
Got my 75% refund and not touching it before 1.10.

Say what? 75% refund and you're going to buy it again in the future? What's the point?
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Big_Gun




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Sep 2010 04:05    Post subject:
ShadowB wrote:
locke89 wrote:
Got my 75% refund and not touching it before 1.10.

Say what? 75% refund and you're going to buy it again in the future? What's the point?


Maybe because he hopes they will fix it? if they do what they say... it will be fixed. So far, they are putting a lot of effort into it.


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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Sep 2010 04:10    Post subject:
Totally missed the point.

Why get an incomplete refund if you're gonna re-buy it for the full price in the future? Why deliberately lose money when you could just hang on to your copy and wait for the necessary patches?
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Big_Gun




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Sep 2010 04:45    Post subject:
ShadowB wrote:
Totally missed the point.

Why get an incomplete refund if you're gonna re-buy it for the full price in the future? Why deliberately lose money when you could just hang on to your copy and wait for the necessary patches?


yup. That one zipped right over my head.
Isn't the first time. And it is a good point.

Maybe he doesn't plan on purchasing it again.


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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Sep 2010 05:43    Post subject:
Big_Gun wrote:
Maybe he doesn't plan on purchasing it again.

Yeah, but he said "...not touching it before 1.10". Razz
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Sep 2010 05:58    Post subject:
1.08b "Beta" is now available.

EDIT: Ah wait it's 1.08 but as Impulse shows beta it's the 1.08b MP version that showed up.
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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Sep 2010 11:18    Post subject:
ShadowB wrote:
Big_Gun wrote:
Maybe he doesn't plan on purchasing it again.

Yeah, but he said "...not touching it before 1.10". Razz

Not buying it but playing it is not mutually exclusive, as you might know. Laughing
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locke89




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Sep 2010 13:40    Post subject:
Exactly, Overlord Smile I'm gonna pirate it with a big smile on my face.
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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Sep 2010 14:35    Post subject:
@JB you're right it has changed A LOT since the early betas. The reason why I'm not arguing in here is primarily because of the futility of it.
The game did release with a lacking polish, but it was a substantial improvement over what we as beta testers had, unfortunately stardock had two branches; one for the beta testers and one for the developers themselves.
While the beta testers complained that the version they had wasn't ready for release stardock said that beta testers shouldn't worry about it, because the version they kept for themselves was ready for release. And so the beta testers couldn't really do much about that.
It's nice to see their continued dedication to improving the game.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Sep 2010 15:06    Post subject:
The continued support and dedication is nice and it's being patched and fixed little by little and will hopefully keep being updated periodically, MP is now active as a beta update and the list of fixes are quite impressive, unsure what will happen from here but 1.1 should be the first content update apparently and then we'll see.
(I like the game but only done various smaller custom games to learn and test out various features, getting a bit better at it but I still fumble a lot, researching new food sources and the like only to spawn dangerous critters near the cities I have or experimenting with quests and going up against far tougher foes than expected, it's quite involving and complex but it keeps it fun and interesting.)

Must have been a rough beta though based on how 1.00 was (Well 0.99 or what it was called before the first retail+ or what it was called again patch was released.) Smile

(Nice with a real beta of substance however aside from the quick suggestions and mostly used as a hype or MP stress test betas that are often used, even used as exclusive extras or pre-order bonuses or kept console exclusive or even exclusive to only one console or platform which kinda defeats the purpose a bit.)
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