Elemental: War of Magic
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friketje




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 22:30    Post subject:
This games bores me, seriously, anyone having fun with this?
It is slow, uninspiring. Game feels empty, bad graphics, combat even slower. Units are way to small in combat, hard to see what they are. Uninspiring story and quests. Only for those who are realy into turnbased i think(and have nothing better to do)
This has been done way better in the past (age of empires, heroes series etc).
Bad game, patching cant fix this i think. Hard to believe the people of galciv are behind this.
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Imoen




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 22:44    Post subject:
No, whats hard to believe is that you compare this game to age of empires and heroes of might and magic. They have little in common.

While I do agree, that the game needs work, and the graphic and interface is awkward and something you probably need to spend some time to get used to(could potential scare away many customers).

Makes me believe you haven't touched the game, except look at screen shots. tsk tsk naughty naughty.
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BLuNT318




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 22:50    Post subject:
The game is fine for what it is


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CookieCrumb




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 22:51    Post subject:
Isn't the UI part of the 0 day patch?
Can't find the changelog but people should really wait to judge this until the patch is out somewhere today (probably tomorrow here).


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Timester




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 22:55    Post subject:
All I can say it I love the game. Simply love it, it has all that I loved from Master of Magic (except for underground empires, but even that can be modded).

But the main problem with me right now is the huge FPS dump when my cities start to grow. But they are working on that problem, so it's fine by me.
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peter980




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 01:25    Post subject:
I know campaign isn't really main part of the game, but it's aimed for beginners, which is bad, since it is buggy as hell.

For example, at my fist playthrough "attempt", I was unable to pass through barricade, although I finished everything needed.

Started campaign again....

Now I succeeded in passing barricade, but now I don't get pioneer as reward from 2nd kingdom, making it impossible to have city on the other side of barricade (or be able to use iron deposits to build better troops), since you can't haul your own pioneers from other since of barricade, and gifted pioneer never really appeared.

Then, after finding ship wreckage and evidence, as reward, I get lightning storm spell but not summoning giant spell.

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I mean really, like I collected every possible campaign showstopper that exist.
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JackArbiter




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 01:31    Post subject:
Update should be here briefly!!! (well, by "here" i mean "in existence" rather than "packed in a scene release.")

http://forums.elementalgame.com/392088

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fawe4 wrote:
Design and look of the game is very generic and uninspired. Not something that you'd expect from fantasy game.
And, just to be clear, I'm not comparing this game to some high buget title, I'm comparing it to likes of Kohan, Lords of Magic, Disciples, and Age of Wonders.


1. They don't usue bumpmapping purposefully so that they can run this on lowend computers.

2. This ss doesn't have particle effects or anything. The game looks better than this. But one bug was disabling particle effects.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 07:50    Post subject:
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 08:14    Post subject:
Patch 1.05 is out.
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peter980




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 09:32    Post subject:
What I like about Stardock is that there is no "red tape" when making patches.

With other companies, when patch leaves developer it goes to Q&A, then back to developer if needed, and process can take over month. Plus is expensive (Q&A usually does a publisher with lots of different machine hardware, which also needs to be scheduled up front). Also a reason why other companies prefer big patches at larger intervals (cuts the costs).

With Stardock, on the other hand. Heh... there is a bug, let me check tonight. Ok it's fixed in tomorrow build, download from Impulse.

Still, with Stardock developed games, you can expect higher frequency of patch borking something. But it will be fixed in next update tomorrow or in day or two. Very Happy
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locke_digitalus




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 10:30    Post subject:
The latest patch must be terrible: been reading threads on people having problems after updating, and threads on people asking for refunds.

Stardock is fairly swift in deleting these threads, which is annoying because I like to read what people think ... but I can't, because clicking to go to Page 2 of the thread reveals that it has been erased right as I'm reading it.

Three. Fucking. Threads. In a row.

So much for the Gamer's Bill of Rights they created for free press.


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CookieCrumb




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 10:51    Post subject:
locke_digitalus wrote:
The latest patch must be terrible: been reading threads on people having problems after updating, and threads on people asking for refunds.

Stardock is fairly swift in deleting these threads, which is annoying because I like to read what people think ... but I can't, because clicking to go to Page 2 of the thread reveals that it has been erased right as I'm reading it.

Three. Fucking. Threads. In a row.

So much for the Gamer's Bill of Rights they created for free press.


If that's true fucking sucks :/

But yeah, apparently the patch broke almost as many things as it fixed.
Still hoping it (and subsequent patches) get scene released Very Happy
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Vassago




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 11:20    Post subject:
locke_digitalus wrote:
The latest patch must be terrible: been reading threads on people having problems after updating, and threads on people asking for refunds.

Stardock is fairly swift in deleting these threads, which is annoying because I like to read what people think ... but I can't, because clicking to go to Page 2 of the thread reveals that it has been erased right as I'm reading it.

Three. Fucking. Threads. In a row.

So much for the Gamer's Bill of Rights they created for free press.


Those fuckers, deleting threads Evil or Very Mad


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Aeternum




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 11:58    Post subject:
Facts;

- Stardock claimed people were playing the pre-retail gold++ version.
- They also acknowledged that there were numerous bugs and performance issues in the game.
- These were all going to be fixed with a "0 day" patch.
- "0 day" patch fixes a few things but introduces more problems.

Therefore it would mean that they never tested the retail version for bugs, which would imply that it was prepared hastily. Gold++ version is actually the retail version but they pulled the "oh its not the full version" card to try and save face. Someone is a fuckin liar.
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peter980




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 12:05    Post subject:
1.05 hotfix is out (1.05.016):
http://forums.elementalgame.com/392303
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Perdurab00




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 12:19    Post subject:
It's shocking that this is a full price game. It's as laughable as the prices in an Impulse 'sale'. Stardock need to quit pretending they are championing the cause of PC gaming. Brad Wardell is a salesman, nothing more - at least Peter Molyneux seems to have some sort of passion for games and gaming.


Epsilon: Game is great btw, I love it, so far it's a definite goty. It's remarkable how much has changed since the beta, stardock have been working their asses off, and it shows.
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vurt




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 12:31    Post subject:
Perdurab00 wrote:
It's shocking that this is a full price game. It's as laughable as the prices in an Impulse 'sale'. Stardock need to quit pretending they are championing the cause of PC gaming. Brad Wardell is a salesman, nothing more - at least Peter Molyneux seems to have some sort of passion for games and gaming.


I think Molyneux is clueless, it really shows in games like Fable.. "oh, i didnt understand that people didnt like when you were forced to travel on linear paths, so in Fable2 we made it more open" (this is not an exact quote, but he said something like this). I've read many similar things from him.. He has ideas that he believes will work commercially and that he believes that people will like, but its very obvious he's not a gamer.

Like all Stardock games, this will probably be great in a year or so Wink
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friketje




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 13:38    Post subject:
Imoen wrote:
No, whats hard to believe is that you compare this game to age of empires and heroes of might and magic. They have little in common.

While I do agree, that the game needs work, and the graphic and interface is awkward and something you probably need to spend some time to get used to(could potential scare away many customers).

Makes me believe you haven't touched the game, except look at screen shots. tsk tsk naughty naughty.


Meant age of wonders. Do think that this is in the same genre as heroes of might and magic, mechanics are different of course and heroes is easier to get into, but same genre.
It has more in common with homam series then grand strategy or 4x.
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WhiteBarbarian




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 13:43    Post subject:
1.05.016 patch added untapped resource notifications - awesome Smile

Mouse cursor and alt-tabing still haven't been fixed Sad


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ScoobyDoh
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 13:57    Post subject:
Is it worth to download the skidrow patch and install it or should i just continue to play without patches?


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Lathieza




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 14:05    Post subject:
I don't know.... was waiting with that patch because todays patch would fix all.... reading all of this kinda makes me feel Sad

I had the game on hold and i think i won't touch it again for a couple of weeks.


Empty again Sad
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 14:30    Post subject:
Seems you're right about that .16 update, small hotfix to 1.05
http://forums.stardock.com/392303
(It's quite hard to capture the files before Impulse deletes them, I only got part of it at 28 MB unpacked, I also don't like how it in the process reinstalls all altered files, like removed intro videos, and the game also has a mini-program to delete all settings files upon being updated though it's easily recreated.)
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Perdurab00




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 14:32    Post subject:
Some people are saying that the ebook form of the novel doesn't have a serial code inside. Shocking!


Epsilon: Game is great btw, I love it, so far it's a definite goty. It's remarkable how much has changed since the beta, stardock have been working their asses off, and it shows.
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WhiteBarbarian




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 14:51    Post subject:
Lathieza wrote:
I don't know.... was waiting with that patch because todays patch would fix all.... reading all of this kinda makes me feel Sad

I had the game on hold and i think i won't touch it again for a couple of weeks.

I would say don't even touch it without 1.05. Patch made game less empty, now there is much more NPC heroes traveling the map, more monsters in the woods. Also rebalanced magic a little bit, no more uber powerful book of summoning from the beginning of the game so you can't summon a bear and go conquering everything that moves, now common units are useful.


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Perdurab00




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 15:19    Post subject:
And now there's controversy over the Gamer's Bill of Rights vanishing from Stardock's site.


Epsilon: Game is great btw, I love it, so far it's a definite goty. It's remarkable how much has changed since the beta, stardock have been working their asses off, and it shows.
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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 15:27    Post subject:
Those hypocrites make me sick. Cool Face
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 15:31    Post subject:
Great people there at Stardock as it seems.


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Smikis.




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 15:39    Post subject:
Elemental War of Magic v1 05 Update-SKIDROW

doesnt seem to contain hotfix.. but i might be wrong
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damador.




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 15:53    Post subject:
no hotfix yet

seems that this game need 2-3 more patches to be at semi real state to play


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JackArbiter




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2010 15:55    Post subject:
Smikis. wrote:
Elemental War of Magic v1 05 Update-SKIDROW

doesnt seem to contain hotfix.. but i might be wrong


I don't think it does either. Hope skid releases for it :/
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