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ffy




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 14:34    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
The JagdPanzer IV is much, much better than the StuG. A little bit slower, but it can actually survive a couple of hits, and it quite regularly bounces 75mm shells.

I believe it also has a higher firerate with the high-velocity 75.


i just got my jgdpz4 a couple of days ago and i wouldnt say that its much,much better, its only 'better'. the larger hp pool is great, and it does feel like the 75mm fires faster. but what i had started doing with the stug (after playing the slow as hell hetzer) was that i tried to lead or join counterattacks, after doing a bit of defensive job as a TD should. with the jgdpz4 (best engine/tracks) its a bit harder to go for fast counterattacks, since it climbs mountains so slowly.

although i guess i should factor in that on the stug my crew was 90%+ while right now on jgdpz4 the crew is only 80%+, and it should accelerate faster as the crew gets better.
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 14:44    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
The JagdPanzer IV is much, much better than the StuG. A little bit slower, but it can actually survive a couple of hits, and it quite regularly bounces 75mm shells.

I believe it also has a higher firerate with the high-velocity 75.

Oh, and don't use the first 88mm. It's pretty bad, and just a massive money waster. It's less accurate, fires slower, only does about 70 or so more damage, and it has less penetration.


QFT

You can see it here. The top two guns are the JagdpanzerIV top tier guns compared. Below are the Jagdpanther guns which got a much better/bigger 88 then the Jgdpnz4 one.

Pic: http://i30.tinypic.com/2zrff48.jpg

Conclusion: Don't use the 88 on Jgdpnz4. Stick with the Stuk42 L/70. Does much more DPS and got better Penetration.


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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 14:48    Post subject:
ffy wrote:
dezztroy wrote:
The JagdPanzer IV is much, much better than the StuG. A little bit slower, but it can actually survive a couple of hits, and it quite regularly bounces 75mm shells.

I believe it also has a higher firerate with the high-velocity 75.


i just got my jgdpz4 a couple of days ago and i wouldnt say that its much,much better, its only 'better'. the larger hp pool is great, and it does feel like the 75mm fires faster. but what i had started doing with the stug (after playing the slow as hell hetzer) was that i tried to lead or join counterattacks, after doing a bit of defensive job as a TD should. with the jgdpz4 (best engine/tracks) its a bit harder to go for fast counterattacks, since it climbs mountains so slowly.

although i guess i should factor in that on the stug my crew was 90%+ while right now on jgdpz4 the crew is only 80%+, and it should accelerate faster as the crew gets better.


Well, that's your problem. Don't use the JgPz IV as a tank. It's a sniper, and an excellent one at that. I have no problems sniping heavy tanks from 500+ meters.
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ffy




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 14:49    Post subject:
while i am not one of those people, there are quite a few (according to whine on the official forums) who instead of doing the realistic thing and going for armor piercing / penetration just use the largest caliber gun they can and load only HE. this is due to some broken mechanics with high caliber HE setting shit on fire and breaking subsystems nearly every hit; if such HE abuse is planned i guess the 88 deserves a second look.

and yes, i dont have any problems sniping tanks with it either. thats what i do most of the time, since i do know that its a tank destroyer. but sometimes the better way to victory is counterattacking from the enemies flank that you and your buddies just decimated with your sniping. but due to being so slow up hills/through rough terrain it can happen that your attempt at flanking fails, because the enemy has already repositioned.

in essence, its a superior tank destroyer, but less of an assault tank. i guess thats the point of moving up tiers anyway. i love it anyway Smile


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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 14:50    Post subject:
HE isn't really that great until you get above 100mm guns.
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 15:00    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
HE isn't really that great until you get above 100mm guns.


I barely use HE shells with my Jagdpanther's 105mm. Got 35x AP and just 5x HE rounds with me. Imho I'm setting people more often on fire or blow their ammo up (insta kill) with the AP rounds. I'm using HE only for LightTanks and Arty.

Funny thing is, it was the complete opposite with my Hetzer and 105mm gun. The AP rounds were useless compared to the HE ones. Little confusing. I still don't get it Razz


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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 15:03    Post subject:
That's cause the 105mm for the Hetzer and up until the JagdPanther is an assault gun. They're supposed to use HE exclusively, and were designed to destroy fortifications. They fired low-velocity shells, and low-velocity can't really pierce any kind of respectable armor.
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 15:06    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
That's cause the 105mm for the Hetzer and up until the JagdPanther is an assault gun. They're supposed to use HE exclusively, and were designed to destroy fortifications. They fired low-velocity shells, and low-velocity can't really pierce any kind of respectable armor.


That could be the explanation Razz Ty


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RainyDay




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 15:30    Post subject:
BTW- since it's a closed beta, there will be a wipe in th end right ? :}
Also -in my games so far, i see only lights, tank destroyed and artilleries, no medium and heavy tanks Shocked

edit: ah, thanks


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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 15:33    Post subject:
You won't see any medium and heavy tanks until you start doing Standard Battles, which you should only be doing once you get your Tier 3 vehicle.
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 15:55    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
You won't see any medium and heavy tanks until you start doing Standard Battles, which you should only be doing once you get your Tier 3 vehicle.


And that's the point where the fun begins, slowly Razz


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KaiserSoze666




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 18:56    Post subject:
I didn't find getting out of tier 3 or 4 too bad, but it seems like a huge leap from there to a million credit tier 5 tank... Going to try and get in a VK3601, they seem like the preferred credit farmer at the moment.
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Ghworg




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 18:58    Post subject:
RainyDay wrote:
BTW- since it's a closed beta, there will be a wipe in th end right ? :}



There will be a partial wipe after closed beta and a full wipe after open beta.
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SilverBlue




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 19:02    Post subject:
Thats how it usually works with betas.
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Ghworg




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 19:41    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
dezztroy wrote:
The JagdPanzer IV is much, much better than the StuG. A little bit slower, but it can actually survive a couple of hits, and it quite regularly bounces 75mm shells.

I believe it also has a higher firerate with the high-velocity 75.

Oh, and don't use the first 88mm. It's pretty bad, and just a massive money waster. It's less accurate, fires slower, only does about 70 or so more damage, and it has less penetration.


QFT

You can see it here. The top two guns are the JagdpanzerIV top tier guns compared. Below are the Jagdpanther guns which got a much better/bigger 88 then the Jgdpnz4 one.

Pic: http://i30.tinypic.com/2zrff48.jpg

Conclusion: Don't use the 88 on Jgdpnz4. Stick with the Stuk42 L/70. Does much more DPS and got better Penetration.


The 88 does much more damage.

If i hit, i want to do as much damage as possible and that's where the 88 is better.

I'm killing more since i switched to the 88


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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 19:42    Post subject:
Ghworg wrote:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
dezztroy wrote:
The JagdPanzer IV is much, much better than the StuG. A little bit slower, but it can actually survive a couple of hits, and it quite regularly bounces 75mm shells.

I believe it also has a higher firerate with the high-velocity 75.

Oh, and don't use the first 88mm. It's pretty bad, and just a massive money waster. It's less accurate, fires slower, only does about 70 or so more damage, and it has less penetration.


QFT

You can see it here. The top two guns are the JagdpanzerIV top tier guns compared. Below are the Jagdpanther guns which got a much better/bigger 88 then the Jgdpnz4 one.

Pic: http://i30.tinypic.com/2zrff48.jpg

Conclusion: Don't use the 88 on Jgdpnz4. Stick with the Stuk42 L/70. Does much more DPS and got better Penetration.


The 88 does much more damage.


You obviously suck at math.


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Ghworg




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 19:44    Post subject:
It's not all about math.

Getting more kills and do more damage is what it is about.
You enjoy your math Smile
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 19:47    Post subject:
Ghworg wrote:
It's not all about math.

Getting more kills and do more damage is what it is about.
You enjoy your math Smile


Well, It's just not true what you said. You do more damage per second with the StuK40 than with the 88.


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Ghworg




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 19:52    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
Ghworg wrote:
It's not all about math.

Getting more kills and do more damage is what it is about.
You enjoy your math Smile


Well, It's just not true what you said. You do more damage per second with the StuK40 than with the 88.


That's true, but as i said before : If i hit, i want to do as much damage as possible and that's where the 88 is better.

I'm killing more since i switched to the 88
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 20:46    Post subject:
Then you're obviously playing your TD wrong. TDs are snipers, they need as accurate a gun as possible. That is there the 75mm excells.
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Ghworg




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jul 2010 23:16    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
Then you're obviously playing your TD wrong. TDs are snipers, they need as accurate a gun as possible. That is there the 75mm excells.


I played with both guns and i get more kills with the 88.
Also, i don't miss much with the 88 so it's accurate enough.

I know i stick with the 88, no matter what others prefer Smile
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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Aug 2010 14:16    Post subject:
700 gold away from premium month ^^

Pz3A and Pz3 make excellent scouts lol ~65 max speed, more armor than light tanks, a gun that can actually hurt something..

10k exp away from my PzJg4


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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Aug 2010 13:05    Post subject:
2455gold Cool Face


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and yes, mine is only average
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Aug 2010 13:28    Post subject:
Inb4 wipe 2 days after you get the premium month.

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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Aug 2010 14:23    Post subject:
nah, they will put patch 0.5.1 out, then some more months of playing, then release


Lutzifer wrote:
and yes, mine is only average
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bani789




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Aug 2010 01:41    Post subject:
Pretty cool game, I started today and got myself a SU-18. The artillery is as frustrating as it is fun.
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Lunabel




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Aug 2010 11:19    Post subject:
Need invite code to join beta! thankuverymuch Razz


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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Aug 2010 11:37    Post subject:
Got mine PzJg4 finally! Currently have Leopard, Pz3/4 (going for Panther), Pz4 (going for Tiger and Hummel), PzJg4 (going for JagPanter) and Wespe (my first attempt for Hummel, before I saw that you can research it on Pz4).

P.S: i'm premium till 6-th september


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and yes, mine is only average
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Aug 2010 13:05    Post subject:
Rolling in my JagdPanther. This thing is lovely.
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Aug 2010 17:22    Post subject:
If anyone got a key to spare please....... Wink
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