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 Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 02:29 Post subject: |
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"To play SCII’s single player game will require a registered Battle.net account, and a one-off online activation. But after that it can be played without needing to be connected. However, Blizzard hope that players will find that being online and connected to the Battle.net servers, while not essential for playing the game, will be attractive enough that would-be pirates will feel they are missing out."
Did i miss something or this drm doesn't seem that bad?
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 02:36 Post subject: |
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| Pl@tinum wrote: | "To play SCII’s single player game will require a registered Battle.net account, and a one-off online activation. But after that it can be played without needing to be connected. However, Blizzard hope that players will find that being online and connected to the Battle.net servers, while not essential for playing the game, will be attractive enough that would-be pirates will feel they are missing out."
Did i miss something or this drm doesn't seem that bad? |
It's the "Play as Guest". Even Blizz admits that it will be pirated and for the looks of it, easily.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 02:49 Post subject: |
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a singleplayer crack seems to be out, a bit complicated to use it tho
This crack unlocks the ability to load SC2Map/SC2Replay files without having a Battle.Net account (aka License).
You'll have to extract the Campaign maps, so someone go and write a tutorial or a batch file to do this task!
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 02:52 Post subject: |
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| kelpo wrote: | a singleplayer crack seems to be out, a bit complicated to use it tho
This crack unlocks the ability to load SC2Map/SC2Replay files without having a Battle.Net account (aka License).
You'll have to extract the Campaign maps, so someone go and write a tutorial or a batch file to do this task! |
That seems a bit kinda pointless, since the campaign is heavily focused on the Hyperion. Unless, of course, the Hyperion is also playable with that crack.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 03:12 Post subject: |
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offline guest mode even works with a 7 hour (14 days max) trial key, I just tested this. I went completely offline, and was able to play the campaign, no problem on a Guest account (there are 3), after creating a normal account with my bnet account.
this is kinda funny, apparently they didnt even bother to build in a check there, so every retail box, comes with one full key and 2 trial keys, which are essentially full singleplayer keys.
just snooping around now in my SC2 files, what exactly has changed after creating a real profile (which is necessary for the offline guest profiles to unlock once)... it does NOT seem to matter what you have in the $User\Documents\StarCraft II\Accounts dir, which was my first thought. Even if you remove the real profile from there (or all profiles for that matter, incl guest 1 = 0), you can still login offline as a guest, without problems.
either way, this offline mode must be pretty easy to replicate, can't be much more than a registry entry or some other file. Maybe the file is tagged in a way with the battle.net account info of the real profile, and this is why nobody has released this yet? (wouldn't be a problem to make a fake bnet account tho, only for this purpose)
or maybe all "crackers" (doesn't seem much to crack here) are actually playing the game  but I can't imagine on the other hand any group letting such a big title slip through their fingers, if it's that easy... really strange indeed.
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b0se
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 03:20 Post subject: |
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If we (beggars) request trial keys here, any chance for us to get banned ?
[spoiler][quote="SteamDRM"]i've bought mohw :derp: / FPS of the year! [/quote]
[quote="SteamDRM"][quote="b0se"]BLACK OPS GOTY[/quote]
No.[/quote][/spoiler]
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 03:22 Post subject: |
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One thing I'm concerned about is the 6-month license that comes with the half-price version of the game (present only in some regions, like Latin America). The license can be renewed on a monthly basis, or you can remove the limit by paying 38 USD.
What worries me is the uncertainty around what is exactly locked down once the time's up. I could live with no MP after 6 months, but if the whole damn game were to shut down, I'd be very pissed.
Local shops haven't been able to clarify that detail, and a buddy sent an e-mail to Blizzard to no avail. They replied, saying they were too busy with the launch to answer ANY question. Godless fuckers.
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gomez83
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Location: Brazil (But it's not my fault)
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 03:26 Post subject: |
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| ShadowB wrote: | One thing I'm concerned about is the 6-month license that comes with the half-price version of the game (present only in some regions, like Latin America). The license can be renewed on a monthly basis, or you can remove the limit by paying 38 USD.
What worries me is the uncertainty around what is exactly locked down once the time's up. I could live with no MP after 6 months, but if the whole damn game were to shut down, I'd be very pissed.
Local shops haven't been able to clarify that detail, and a buddy sent an e-mail to Blizzard to no avail. They replied, saying they were too busy with the launch to answer ANY question. Godless fuckers. |
I have read in two different brazilian game sites that it locks the whole game, even the single-player portion.
I'm not yet 100% sure, but it seems to be the case.
Can you believe that shit?
| thenormal02 wrote: | | what do you mean? the console version also works on pc ? |
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 03:27 Post subject: |
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| ShadowB wrote: | One thing I'm concerned about is the 6-month license that comes with the half-price version of the game (present only in some regions, like Latin America). The license can be renewed on a monthly basis, or you can remove the limit by paying 38 USD.
What worries me is the uncertainty around what is exactly locked down once the time's up. I could live with no MP after 6 months, but if the whole damn game were to shut down, I'd be very pissed.
Local shops haven't been able to clarify that detail, and a buddy sent an e-mail to Blizzard to no avail. They replied, saying they were too busy with the launch to answer ANY question. Godless fuckers. |
I think, you will get to keep the SP for sure. By then it will be cracked tenfold, and they can't afford to turn people away to the dark side.
So, I say it's a safe bet, you will have SP.
MP is what you won't have.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 03:30 Post subject: |
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| ShadowB wrote: | One thing I'm concerned about is the 6-month license that comes with the half-price version of the game (present only in some regions, like Latin America). The license can be renewed on a monthly basis, or you can remove the limit by paying 38 USD.
What worries me is the uncertainty around what is exactly locked down once the time's up. I could live with no MP after 6 months, but if the whole damn game were to shut down, I'd be very pissed.
Local shops haven't been able to clarify that detail, and a buddy sent an e-mail to Blizzard to no avail. They replied, saying they were too busy with the launch to answer ANY question. Godless fuckers. |
According to this site (http://www.adrenaline.com.br/games/noticias/5458/starcraft-ii-vem-ao-brasil-por-r-49-com-limite-de-uso.html), both single and multiplayer will be locked (i guess you can read portuguese?).
Anyway, i don`t think i would be playing the single player part for more than 6 months...
So, if we are paying aroung $25 plus $38later that would make $63 total... which is basicall slighty higher than what is charged elsewhere...
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 03:35 Post subject: |
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Well, if it's like a permanent guest mode once the license expires, I may be able to live with that.
My other concern is that the Latin American version might not have languages other than Spanish and Portuguese, and I really prefer playing my games in English.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 03:45 Post subject: |
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| ShadowB wrote: | Well, if it's like a permanent guest mode once the license expires, I may be able to live with that.
My other concern is that the Latin American version might not have languages other than Spanish and Portuguese, and I really prefer playing my games in English. |
You can check that on the official battle.net.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 03:54 Post subject: |
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ok, I found what enables guest mode, it's a single registry key in
HKEY_USERS\S-.....(the_long_one)\Software\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\
in there are all BNet accounts, my SC2 Retail one (trial key atm), only has a REG_BINARY value called Licenses
when I remove this value, guest mod is disabled - after reentering to the registry, guestmode works fine again
I guess this value has probably also a timestamp (the 14 days max) encoded, which prevents play in offline guest mode after that - maybe not.
So all is needed is a valid entry there, to enable offline guest mode. so if they did not include some machine dependent restriction into this "Licenses" value and someone shares that registry key as .reg file (from a full license bnet account), you all have your unlimited SP, I guess. Since the game apparently can check the correctness of that Licenses registry entry, without an online connection... probably also easy to make a complte fake entry somehow, which passes the test and does not correspond to a real bnet account, dunno.
I can't test myself if the same reg key would work on a different machine atm.
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iMiKE
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Location: Russia, Novosibirsk
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 03:55 Post subject: |
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Guys, I'm from Russia.
We have a jewel version of SC2 (4 months of subscr.) for 17$
and DVD-box (12 months of subscr.) for 30$
but I don't want this localised shit. I want a normal full english version.
So, if I buy a normal english version and want to play in Russia - can I? There is no limitations about using version in other country?
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 03:58 Post subject: |
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| xlro wrote: | ok, I found what enables guest mode, it's a single registry key in
HKEY_USERS\S-.....(the_long_one)\Software\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\
in there are all BNet accounts, my SC2 Retail one (trial key atm), only has a REG_BINARY value called Licenses
when I remove this value, guest mod is disabled - after reentering to the registry, guestmode works fine again
I guess this value has probably also a timestamp (the 14 days max) encoded, which prevents play in offline guest mode after that - maybe not.
So all is needed is a valid entry there, to enable offline guest mode. so if they did not include some machine dependent restriction into this "Licenses" value and someone shares that registry key as .reg file (from a full license bnet account), you all have your unlimited SP, I guess. Since it apparently can check the correctness of that Licenses entry, without an online connection... probably also easy to make a fake entry somehow, which does not correspond to a real bnet account, dunno.
I can't test myself if the same reg key would work on a different machine atm. |
I could help test this with you
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 04:04 Post subject: |
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| Radicalus wrote: | | xlro wrote: | ok, I found what enables guest mode, it's a single registry key in
HKEY_USERS\S-.....(the_long_one)\Software\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\
in there are all BNet accounts, my SC2 Retail one (trial key atm), only has a REG_BINARY value called Licenses
when I remove this value, guest mod is disabled - after reentering to the registry, guestmode works fine again
I guess this value has probably also a timestamp (the 14 days max) encoded, which prevents play in offline guest mode after that - maybe not.
So all is needed is a valid entry there, to enable offline guest mode. so if they did not include some machine dependent restriction into this "Licenses" value and someone shares that registry key as .reg file (from a full license bnet account), you all have your unlimited SP, I guess. Since it apparently can check the correctness of that Licenses entry, without an online connection... probably also easy to make a fake entry somehow, which does not correspond to a real bnet account, dunno.
I can't test myself if the same reg key would work on a different machine atm. |
I could help test this with you |
Sorry, I cant use my current account, which works for this, and dont have another spare trial key atm.
This is easily doable tho, if someone just takes a trial key (there are so many arround, now that the game is out) and binds it to a new bnet account with completely faked data (best created over a proxy ofc). Then export the reg key that is created after creation of the game profile and share it. => sp for everyone, if there are no machine dependent checks in the reg key
anybody should be able to do this, when they get hold of a spare trial key
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 04:07 Post subject: |
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After some testing, I have arrived to the conclusion, that this is not the only place the check is made, since without initial log in, and activation, no initial registry keys are made.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 04:10 Post subject: |
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Ok, received key from G2Play.net and activated it. Playing SP campaign right now. At last!!!
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 04:10 Post subject: |
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Hmm, if I get a trial, and like it, then I will order from g2play myself, seems reliable enough now. How long did you wait, Tresh?
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 04:10 Post subject: |
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| Radicalus wrote: | | After some testing, I have arrived to the conclusion, that this is not the only place the check is made, since without initial log in, and activation, no initial registry keys are made. |
not quite sure what u mean by this, I guess it just goes through all the keys in ....\Software\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\ and checks if there is a valid Licenses entry present, I for example also have my beta licenses (EU and US) still in there, which ofc do not activate guest mode for retail. If the Battle.net\ key does not exist at all, it just means there is nothing to search for in the first place (it will be created later), since there are no BNet licenses activated on the machine at all. (which is the case with your setup, right?)
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 04:35 Post subject: |
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| ShadowB wrote: | One thing I'm concerned about is the 6-month license that comes with the half-price version of the game (present only in some regions, like Latin America). The license can be renewed on a monthly basis, or you can remove the limit by paying 38 USD.
What worries me is the uncertainty around what is exactly locked down once the time's up. I could live with no MP after 6 months, but if the whole damn game were to shut down, I'd be very pissed.
Local shops haven't been able to clarify that detail, and a buddy sent an e-mail to Blizzard to no avail. They replied, saying they were too busy with the launch to answer ANY question. Godless fuckers. |
We have such editions here too:
120 days --> 499 Rub --> ~$16
1 Year --> 999 Rub --> ~$33
Both editions come with a guess pass which allows to play for 7 hours and is valid for 14 days since activation. Also, as soon as subscription on these editions expires the game is in a total lock-down both single and multiplayer. |
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 04:40 Post subject: |
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| xlro wrote: | | Radicalus wrote: | | After some testing, I have arrived to the conclusion, that this is not the only place the check is made, since without initial log in, and activation, no initial registry keys are made. |
not quite sure what u mean by this, I guess it just goes through all the keys in ....\Software\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\ and checks if there is a valid Licenses entry present, I for example also have my beta licenses (EU and US) still in there, which ofc do not activate guest mode for retail. If the Battle.net\ key does not exist at all, it just means there is nothing to search for in the first place (it will be created later), since there are no BNet licenses activated on the machine at all. (which is the case with your setup, right?) |
I wanted to say, that the guest registry check is not the only one probably, but I will not go in to guesswork, as I am simply too damn tired for that now, sorry 
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 04:45 Post subject: |
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| Radicalus wrote: | | xlro wrote: | | Radicalus wrote: | | After some testing, I have arrived to the conclusion, that this is not the only place the check is made, since without initial log in, and activation, no initial registry keys are made. |
not quite sure what u mean by this, I guess it just goes through all the keys in ....\Software\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\ and checks if there is a valid Licenses entry present, I for example also have my beta licenses (EU and US) still in there, which ofc do not activate guest mode for retail. If the Battle.net\ key does not exist at all, it just means there is nothing to search for in the first place (it will be created later), since there are no BNet licenses activated on the machine at all. (which is the case with your setup, right?) |
I wanted to say, that the guest registry check is not the only one probably, but I will not go in to guesswork, as I am simply too damn tired for that now, sorry |
yeah, there is a chance that this is not the only modification that happens when you log on with a proper account. I checked all relevant places in the system I could think of tho and didn't find any other modifications (apart from log file changes etc).
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 04:46 Post subject: |
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So what does all this mean? SC2 won't see a crack soon?
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 04:48 Post subject: |
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Allegedly, there is a crack for SP, I will try it now.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 04:51 Post subject: |
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there is a crack posted on WBB... look on page 32 ( was made by russian & supposedly working )
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 04:53 Post subject: |
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Found a working crack, can't say more sadly, but if you know your way around, you will find it fast.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2010 04:53 Post subject: |
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| JRFSkrEEmeR wrote: | | So what does all this mean? SC2 won't see a crack soon? |
no, the exact opposite imo - there should be a crack/patch very soon, because it appears to be very simple to play singleplayer over the offline guest account feature.
the fact that there is no release, makes it imo very likely tho, hat there is some machine info entangled in that registry key - so simply copying it, won't work. still shouldn't be too hard to reverse.
or maybe some groups are waiting for the US install servers to go live, since there is no decryption (media)key yet to actually use the us installer.
Since the enGB version should be almost identical tho, it's still strange that they wouldn't use that as a source, I mean, english is english.
edit: ok hehe - seems someone else was even faster than I could type with the crack ... can anybody say if is this a proper campaign SP crack, or just a loader for maps (incl the campaign maps), like has been done couple hours ago.
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