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Drake008@




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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 12:58    Post subject:
When wil Europe be unlocked on the servers. I wanna play the Demokey I got from my friend on saturday!
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 12:58    Post subject:
Well as starcraft 2 is more like starcraft 1,5 and stacking was in starcraft 1 I'm not suprised it made its way to the sequel. Maybe it 's (was?) kind of a bug, but a one that made some extra tactics available and added some variaty so I really do not understand all the whining about it. And It's one of that hardcore PC games bugfeatures that are not gamebreaking but add to the experiance (like rocket(ups I meant STRAFE)] jumping in Quake! - its started as a "bug" too)


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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:07    Post subject:
some people just like to whine even if they didnt play sc1/2 and never will. the very nature of the internet.

here you have an example:

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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:11    Post subject:
whats next ... wait didn't they say all air craft units stack... and now you can move buildings by turning them into air units...Cool Face


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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:13    Post subject:
oh wait
HAHAHAH


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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:13    Post subject:
And some people are willing to accept any shovelled shit just as long as it has the name of their favourite company stamped on it, even though there are vastly superior products elsewhere. It's the very nature of fanboyism.
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:16    Post subject:
Hfric wrote:
oh wait
HAHAHAH

and whats the point of posting this link? some low leaguel players enjoing the game

sabin1981 wrote:
And some people are willing to accept any shovelled shit just as long as it has the name of their favourite company stamped on it, even though there are vastly superior products elsewhere. It's the very nature of fanboyism.

coming from one that bought mw2 lololololol <fuck me in the ass please bobby>


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and yes, I felt guilt and shame over buying MW2.. especially after what Craptivision did to it... but I wanted it soooo badly! Crying or Very sad


yess boobby i want it soo baaadllyyy TT
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:20    Post subject:
I bought MW2 for £20 and I've had over 420hrs of fun out of it, with no extra cost. How is that an "ass fucking"? I didn't buy it because it had the Activision stamp on it, I bought it because it was part of the CoD series -- and as for innovation? At least MW2 changed things up a bit from MW1 or any previous CoD title. StarCack 2 is fucking identical to StarCack 1, right down to the bugs!, the only difference is SC2 is "3D" compared to SC1's sprites.

Nice. Take the same game from 12 years ago, make it 3D, the Blizztards will snap it up like a thirsty man in a desert. Innovation my hairless arse. You muppets keep crying about how SC2 is the most innovative RTS "evah!!" and yet the rest of us non-blinded fanboys are sat here, scratching our heads, and thinking "QUE!? WTF?"
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:21    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
And some people are willing to accept any shovelled shit just as long as it has the name of their favourite company stamped on it, even though there are vastly superior products elsewhere. It's the very nature of fanboyism.


Yes, it's good we're not fanboys then, but simply understand the game and why it is a feature and not a bug.

As we also mentioned Blizzard initially chose to have collision so you couldn't bunch them up like that, but it was only due to player request that they made it possible, so obviously it wasn't Blizzard shoveling shit, as they did originally not want, but infact their fanbase shovelling shit.

So you can't argue your case without resorting to personal attacks, and even then you can't argue the case.
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:23    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I bought MW2 for £20 and I've had over 420hrs of fun out of it, with no extra cost. How is that an "ass fucking"? I didn't buy it because it had the Activision stamp on it, I bought it because it was part of the CoD series -- and as for innovation? At least MW2 changed things up a bit from MW1 or any previous CoD title. StarCack 2 is fucking identical to StarCack 1, right down to the bugs!, the only difference is SC2 is "3D" compared to SC1's sprites.

Nice. Take the same game from 12 years ago, make it 3D, the Blizztards will snap it up like a thirsty man in a desert. Innovation my hairless arse. You muppets keep crying about how SC2 is the most innovative RTS "evah!!" and yet the rest of us non-blinded fanboys are sat here, scratching our heads, and thinking "QUE!? WTF?"


ITT: Anyone with a different opinion than yours = fanboy.

No, we simply invested more time in learning about the game than you did, and we saw what could potentially make this the most innovative RTS, it's still not known yet whether or not that will be the case, but i'm quite certain that it will be.

But i guess those reviewers will be called fanboys too, right?
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:25    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I bought MW2 for £20 and I've had over 420hrs of fun out of it, with no extra cost. How is that an "ass fucking"? I didn't buy it because it had the Activision stamp on it, I bought it because it was part of the CoD series -- and as for innovation? At least MW2 changed things up a bit from MW1 or any previous CoD title. StarCack 2 is fucking identical to StarCack 1, right down to the bugs!, the only difference is SC2 is "3D" compared to SC1's sprites.

Nice. Take the same game from 12 years ago, make it 3D, the Blizztards will snap it up like a thirsty man in a desert. Innovation my hairless arse. You muppets keep crying about how SC2 is the most innovative RTS "evah!!" and yet the rest of us non-blinded fanboys are sat here, scratching our heads, and thinking "QUE!? WTF?"


dude, youre so full of crap. whats your problem with sc/blizzard? mw2 is the same shit as mw1 with few new perks, crap host migration and no dedicated servers. hows that fucking in the ass? it is, simply as that.

anyone is arguing that sc2 is super innovative? no. but if you dont see what new mechanics are in sc2 comparing to sc1 simply means that you have no idea micro/macro mechanics in sc2.

i cant believe how full of shit and rage you are posting this kind of bullshit on internet lol, i remember your posts from different topics and never seen anything like that, fuck, its amazing. cant believe that you are 1981 and post shit like that, time to fucking grow up, seriously.


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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:29    Post subject:
FISKER_Q wrote:
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Yes, it's good we're not fanboys then, but simply understand the game and why it is a feature and not a bug.


Ok Jesus Shot, whatever you say.... it's a "feature".

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As we also mentioned Blizzard initially chose to have collision so you couldn't bunch them up like that, but it was only due to player request that they made it possible, so obviously it wasn't Blizzard shoveling shit, as they did originally not want, but infact their fanbase shovelling shit.


Weeee! So the derp brigade are the reason? Sounds fun. However that doesn't negate the fact that the game is fucking IDENTICAL to the previous one, just with "polygons" instead of "sprites" -- oh and you have to buy the game three times if you want to play it properly. WOOHOO. No wonder Blizzard are part of Activision now Razz (did you stop to realise THAT, Remy? No?)

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So you can't argue your case without resorting to personal attacks, and even then you can't argue the case.


My only "personal attacks" are against muppets calling a bug a "feature" and claiming that SC2 is the best ever, without providing a shred of proof except for text slathered with fanboy drool. It brings nothing to the table that hasn't been done a hundred times before, and better, by competing titles. Of course I'm going to insult people like that, because - IMO - they're retards.

remyleblau wrote:

anyone is arguing that sc2 is super innovative? no. but if you dont see what new mechanics are in sc2 comparing to sc1 then go fuck yourself in your hairless arse. geez, i cant believe that you are 1981 and post shit like that, time to fucking grow up, seriously.


FISKER_Q wrote:
and we saw what could potentially make this the most innovative RTS, it's still not known yet whether or not that will be the case, but i'm quite certain that it will be


DERP. Tards haven't even played it yet and they're "quite certain that it will be the most innovative" I rest my case and hereby leave the thread, because I'm afraid I'm getting soaked to the skin in fanboy bukkake. It's kinda gross.
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:29    Post subject:
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You see, we finally found some common grounds. MW2 is indeed rape in the ass by Activision. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:33    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
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You see, we finally found some common grounds. MW2 is indeed rape in the ass by Dildovision. Smile

indeed it is. but you know what? i dont go posting in topics about MW2 bashing ppl for playing/buying it and for calling host migration a 'feature' and not a 'being fucked in the ass'. nor do i waste my time making dumb gifs of sabin sucking bobbys cock.


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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:34    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:

Weeee! So the derp brigade are the reason? Sounds fun. However that doesn't negate the fact that the game is fucking IDENTICAL to the previous one, just with "polygons" instead of "sprites" -- oh and you have to buy the game three times if you want to play it properly. WOOHOO. No wonder Blizzard are part of Activision now Razz (did you stop to realise THAT, Remy? No?)


It simply isn't, the whole singleplayer experience is different, the map publishing (which i've previously said didn't work out well in the beta) is different, even multiplayer itself is different, beyond replacing polygons with sprites.

If you're seriously trying to argue that the game is identical then you're just a moron, plain and simple.

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My only "personal attacks" are against muppets calling a bug a "feature" and claiming that SC2 is the best ever, without providing a shred of proof except for text slathered with fanboy drool. It brings nothing to the table that hasn't been done a hundred times before, and better, by competing titles. Of course I'm going to insult people like that, because - IMO - they're retards.


I provided proof more than once in this thread, but i'm guessing that your definition of "fanboy drool" prohibits that material from being used, despite being the official website and even 3rd party journalistic gaming sites?

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DERP. Tards haven't even played it yet and they're "quite certain that it will be the most innovative" I rest my case and hereby leave the thread, because I'm afraid I'm getting soaked to the skin in fanboy bukkake. It's kinda gross.


My opinion is my opinion, from the information i've gathered i believe my opinion to be fair, i do not present it as fact, but i'm quite certain that it will end up being fact.

When it does, i'll be happy to return so you can get some more bukkake.
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:36    Post subject:
I think it's safe to say that the "map builder" is the best feature of SC2. Hopefully, a portion of the community will make something creative out of it. Smile

remyleblau wrote:
nor do i waste my time making dumb gifs of sabin sucking bobbys cock.

Why not? Smug
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:38    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:

Yes, it's good we're not fanboys then, but simply understand the game and why it is a feature and not a bug.


It's a feature that started as a bug. So you thind ID should eliminate strafe jumping from Quake games becouse it started as a bug?

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Weeee! So the derp brigade are the reason? Sounds fun. However that doesn't negate the fact that the game is fucking IDENTICAL to the previous one, just with "polygons" instead of "sprites" -- oh and you have to buy the game three times if you want to play it properly. WOOHOO. No wonder Blizzard are part of Activision now Razz (did you stop to realise THAT, Remy? No?)


Well it is basicly the same (Starcraft 1.5 as I'm saying), but thats what the consumer wants here, consumers want hardcore oldschool RTS becouse there wasn't any in YEARS! And if something is oldschool by desing it won't be innovating Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:38    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Why not? Smug

im bored but i aint that bored yet Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:40    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
I think it's safe to say that the "map builder" is the best feature of SC2. Hopefully, a portion of the community will make something creative out of it. Smile


That depends on whether or not they'll fix all of the feedback gathered during the beta, in the beta it was like this, which, in my opinion, was pretty terrible:

10MB max size per map (Basically room for no extra resources)
20MB of max storage (That's only 2 fullsized maps in total)
5 Maps total.
Maps are only available in the region they're published. (Games like DotA either won't be available to other regions or they would somehow have to publish it in other regions (buying several copies of the game)
No real custom map support, i.e. you can't make a map and then share it, and then play over battle.net without all kinds of weird trickery.

So as you can see, there are some pretty dealbreaking issues there, but i don't know for sure if they fixed them or not.
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:43    Post subject:
Aha, all excitement dead now. This is truly Apple. Lockdown to the tiniest thing.

And you people are excited over this shit? Oh dear...
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:46    Post subject:
Whoa that map restrictions suck
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:49    Post subject:
there a lot of issues connected with maps.

its possible to embed music/video content in map file - obviously copyrights issues involved.
its also possible to make almost every game you could imagine - the same.
(check dota sc2 on youtube)

anyway you should have an option to play custom map file from your harddrive without publishing it on bnet.
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:50    Post subject:
OK guys. Release tommorow?Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:53    Post subject:
cracked? i dont think so Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:53    Post subject:
Ok , whose the nerds that are queuing up for this at midnight?
Seriously, own up?


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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:55    Post subject:
remyleblau wrote:
cracked? i dont think so Wink


This. Don't see that happening anytime soon either.
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 13:57    Post subject:
Gonna be interesting to see who wins King of the beta, who are you guys rooting for?
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 14:09    Post subject:
what is the final pair, tlo vs ??
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 14:13    Post subject:
FISKER_Q wrote:
iNatan wrote:
I think it's safe to say that the "map builder" is the best feature of SC2. Hopefully, a portion of the community will make something creative out of it. Smile


That depends on whether or not they'll fix all of the feedback gathered during the beta, in the beta it was like this, which, in my opinion, was pretty terrible:

10MB max size per map (Basically room for no extra resources)
20MB of max storage (That's only 2 fullsized maps in total)
5 Maps total.
Maps are only available in the region they're published. (Games like DotA either won't be available to other regions or they would somehow have to publish it in other regions (buying several copies of the game)
No real custom map support, i.e. you can't make a map and then share it, and then play over battle.net without all kinds of weird trickery.

So as you can see, there are some pretty dealbreaking issues there, but i don't know for sure if they fixed them or not.


That just killed every little bit of excitement I had for this game. They make this great editor, and then they put extreme limits on it? No thanks.

Also, region-locking is just bullshit. Don't understand how you can support that.

Oh well, glad I didn't waste money on this.
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 14:13    Post subject:
Can't believe all the hate here. Really pathetic complaining about things that people actually wanted in the game. Then again I presume none of the complainers has ever played Starcraft 1 or any other competetive MP game.
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