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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 17:52    Post subject: anger management
What works for you?
Me, I listen to this song for example:
It has a very tranquil effect on me.
Lyrics are Dutch but the 2 main lines loosely translated:
Shall I take a nice dump in your mouth?
Or do you already have shit in your head. Cool Face
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 18:09    Post subject:
Loop this 20 times until you know every fiber of that face getting smashed. Then watch it another 50 times.. Somehow it never gets boring and it's a strange kind of satisfaction going on:



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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 18:20    Post subject:
I bring some friends from albania, iraq and morocco over to holland and we smoke some pot. Most of them decide to stay and earn some money dealing. Life is good.


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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 18:21    Post subject:
i hit things. i try not to though...


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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 18:25    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
i hit things. i try not to though...


My albanians friends do this too, then the iraqis steal their stuff and the guys from morocco sell it back to them Cool Face


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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 18:32    Post subject:
i used to bitch a lot until i realized i was being a bitch. so now i complain out loud but when alone. i nerd rage a lot too but i never do it around others.

and oh yea bottle the leftovers up when you're done, and there'll be lots cause bitching out loud only helps so much.

then one day let it all go - you'll know when the time is right.
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 18:34    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
i hit things. i try not to though...


same lol, doors usually >_< so i have a few holes here and there around the house
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 18:54    Post subject:
I still have to replace a door in my living room.... It has a couple of holes in it... will be my second door in 2years i think Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 19:45    Post subject: Re: anger management
iconized wrote:
What works for you?
Me, I listen to this song for example:
It has a very tranquil effect on me.


Your problem is not the anger management but the fact that that song calms you down. What an angry sounding song. Sad I listen to this while browsing nfohump. Makes even all the crap look awesome.

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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 19:54    Post subject: Re: anger management
swingman wrote:
Your problem is not the anger management but the fact that that song calms you down. What an angry sounding song. Sad I listen to this while browsing nfohump. Makes even all the crap look awesome.


I think I project the anger in the song onto the people I am angry at since the lyrics are also quite offensive it cools me down.
I dunno if that is a bad thing.
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 20:29    Post subject:
I play violent videogames Laughing

That or hit walls with my head. Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 20:34    Post subject:
I'm very rarely angry, and the few times I am it happens for only 5-10 minutes, then it's all forgotten. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 20:41    Post subject:
Believe it or not, I'm actually far less angry these days than I was five or six years ago. Now when I do get angry, it's over quickly and forgotten just as easy. Generally tends to last a few mins then burns out .. but my favourite way to work off aggression is to play a game. Preferably not an online shooter, as they tend to exacerbate the situation Razz
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 21:04    Post subject:
Games and alcohol for me. Games keep me occupied during spreading-bullshit-and-seeking-for-attention phase while I am getting drunk, as soon as that phase is over, alcohol makes me very calm, relaxed, sleepy and as I at such times lack concentration to keep playing games, I switch to books reading and usually after a few paragraphs I fall asleep. Then I wake up in a good mood and not angry any more Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 22:23    Post subject:
Hmm MMO games with pvp options can also really anger me, especially if killed by a kid that taunts afterwards, and alcohol I mainly use to fight depression :/


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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 22:31    Post subject:
Using a drug that is known to cause depression... to fight depression seems counter productive, if you ask me mate Sad I know only too well how much of a cunt depression is, so why not look for something a little more permanent and effective? :\
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 22:41    Post subject:
yeah, alcohol is patently bad to counter depression. If you need advice, hit the pm button =)

as for anger management: try progressive muscle relaxation or other relaxation techniques and do sports. So you ll get your physique in shape and learn to control your body states better. Also stress reduction might be a good idea, depending on where the anger comes from
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 23:18    Post subject:
Thx both Sabin and Lutzifer, I know it is counter productive but well I am also an addict.
Basically alcohol can relief stress, anxiety and depression but when it is out of your system those 3 things kick back in so it is a viscous circle.


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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 23:47    Post subject:
Yeah, it's a nasty cycle alright... well, I hope you find something to ground you, something to drag you out of the addiction Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 23:56    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Jun 2010 00:14    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Yeah, it's a nasty cycle alright... well, I hope you find something to ground you, something to drag you out of the addiction Sad

Why the sad face Sabin ? Here we have a saying "Клин клином вышибает" / "Klin klinom visibaet". Well, my english skills are not enough to translate such saying, but acording to google translate english variant is "Fight fire with fire", and after googling a bit I think it's a spot on translation ala if you have a sore throat after getting cold, eat more ice cream, fight fears with more fears, etc. If such actions wouldn't kill you they would make you stronger for sure, but if they cause you more harm then it means you were weak at the beginning and you had it coming anyway.

So, why should iconized change his habits if they are making him feel good. As long as he keeps it in moderation, he will be absolutely fine. I bet changing habits will cause more harm, than good.

Sometimes I drown depression / sorrow in a bottle, but I keep it in moderation.


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Jun 2010 00:19    Post subject:
WhiteBarbarian wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Yeah, it's a nasty cycle alright... well, I hope you find something to ground you, something to drag you out of the addiction Sad

Why the sad face Sabin ? Here we have a saying "Клин клином вышибает" / "Klin klinom visibaet". Well, my english skills are not enough to translate such saying, but acording to google translate english variant is "Fight fire with fire", and after googling a bit I think it's a spot on translation ala if you have a sore throat after getting cold, eat more ice cream, fight fears with more fears, etc. If such actions wouldn't kill you they would make you stronger for sure, but if they cause you more harm then it means you were weak at the beginning and you had it coming anyway.

So, why should iconized change his habits if they are making him feel good. As long as he keeps it in moderation, he will be absolutely fine. I bet changing habits will cause more harm, than good.

Sometimes I drown depression / sorrow in a bottle, but I keep it in moderation.


But you don't actually "drown" depression with alcohol, you put it aside making it stronger. Telling someone with a depression or similar to drink more to feel better momentarily (depression often rebound and grow afterward) isn't a good suggestion to anyone.

And to use your example, if you have a problem with alcohol, fighting it by drinking more is just.. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Jun 2010 00:38    Post subject:
WhiteBarbarian wrote:

Why the sad face Sabin ? Here we have a saying "Клин клином вышибает" / "Klin klinom visibaet". Well, my english skills are not enough to translate such saying, but acording to google translate english variant is "Fight fire with fire",


Because I have an alcoholic brother and I know how bad it can get.

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So, why should iconized change his habits if they are making him feel good. As long as he keeps it in moderation, he will be absolutely fine. I bet changing habits will cause more harm, than good.


I didn't say he should change his habits. Only he can know whether he wants to change or not, and I wasn't passing judgement - I was actually giving the "sad face" because, like Iconized, I've spent my life battling depression. I know what it's like and what you would do in order to get just a moment's peace from it.

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but I keep it in moderation.


Addiction != moderation Wink
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Jun 2010 00:54    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I was actually giving the "sad face" because, like Iconized, I've spent my life battling depression. I know what it's like and what you would do in order to get just a moment's peace from it.


Same here. Currently getting a lot of help from Cipralex (escilatopram) 40mg.


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Jun 2010 01:25    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
But you don't actually "drown" depression with alcohol, you put it aside making it stronger. Telling someone with a depression or similar to drink more to feel better momentarily (depression often rebound and grow afterward) isn't a good suggestion to anyone.

And to use your example, if you have a problem with alcohol, fighting it by drinking more is just.. Rolling Eyes

Worked for me, this is exactly how I stopped binge drinking, I was constantly shitfacing myself day after day, as I had not calibrated my body for point of no return so to say, so I kept drinking more and more to the point of memory loss, and the next few days were a real nightmare, I was sweating alcohol or at least some nasty stuff were coming out with sweet. Since that time I stopped abusing alcohol to the point where it could cause me severe bodily harm, now I am just enjoying it, it makes me calm.

As for putting depression aside, yeah maybe, but it never become stronger for me.

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Its a short term solution though. You wake up the next morning with the same problems

Some problems can't be solved, or solving them will cause more problems than living with such problems. So, it's better to keep inconvenience that such problems inflict in bay by any mean necessary but keeping it in moderation.

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@Sabin: Well, I am addicted to whisky, sometime after discovering a new fine malt I want to pour myself more and more, but I keep it in moderation by making a volitional decision to stop.

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@Frant, Sabin: After rereading that you have wrote, I am starting to think could it be that I wasn't really depressed and what I think was a depression really was just unhappiness, stress, etc. Or maybe it's my attitude of let it be, that should be and whatever your situation is it could always become much worse, so beat it and be happy with what you have at the moment, makes me immune to its effects, or I am in permanent depression and adjusted to it and really don't care anymore Scratch Head Laughing




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Jun 2010 01:35    Post subject:
@ WhiteBarbarian: There are many kinds of depression. Dysthymia is a semi-mild kind of constant depression that usually don't go in cycles where you hit the deepest pits of hellish tar-pits, things just have a gray filter, lowering the ability to feel happiness.

I have cyclic/reciditive (sp?) depression, ie. it comes and goes in cycles over the years and every cycle is worse than the one before.

I've learned how my depression works but it doesn't make things much easier, only more prepared when I notice a cycle is on it's way down again.


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Jun 2010 02:34    Post subject:
@Frant: Aha… interesting. Here I could only wish you to have faith and strength to live with / overcome / subdue your depression whatever you think is right. At least at your short hair photo you looked quite healthy. Cheers Smile

@Nalo: Hahaha, well if and when I beat someone or attempt to exit thru window after hiding my problems with alcohol I will remember you words Very Happy


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