Final Fantasy XIV: Realm Reborn
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jun 2010 00:03    Post subject:
kouga wrote:
Smikis. wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
I've been in a great number of MMORPG tests, both alpha and beta, and while some have been in magnificent condition - some have been terrible, real broken content, only to end up all the better upon later tests/retail. I'm not saying this is, or will be, perfect ... I'm just saying not to slam it for missing options and/or performance. Not yet.


i personally never saw flawed game ideals ever changed in beta, would it be aoc, war, or any other

i remember wows beta... and it was just perfect..but in ff14 i wanted to quit after first 5 mins.. and i did ..


Beta invitation well wasted. Rolling Eyes

Give your account to someone else if you can't stand this wtf-no-sli-support piece of shit alpha client so they can actually do something productive and help out in the beta. Laughing



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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jun 2010 00:14    Post subject:
Wow that was some funky camera controls going there, but just got into it and then the test ended Sad Think I'll have to use gamepad next time.

At least got to see some white dudes running around there, nobody said anything though, maybe the chat isn't working yet. Well I only said "will trade working camera for a squid" no takers Razz

Have to try and get more playtime on next stint. Looked good and didn't crash not bad for alpha Smile (bad points already mentioned)


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jun 2010 00:40    Post subject:
Sure the camera controls were funky, but pressing V a few times solved it. The FPS were crappy in the town, but outside it was much better.

To tell you the truth all of the controls were funky and strange.
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jun 2010 01:49    Post subject:
awesome 200 ppl telling me how i never tested shit, i didnt expect perfect game.. i expected more than first in house working build, cuz thats how it feels

music overlaps.. not only its annoying and you cant turn off.. half of the time you have 2 different songs playing , resoliution is 1280x720 or something like that.. which takes barely half of my 22 screen, which isnt even big by todays standards ( no you cant expand or fullscreen the game.. its stuck on that small window )

Not only its hard to see anything, controls are well bad.. camera is terrible.. yes pressing v helps.. but you need to press it every time you try to turn around pretty much .., 30 fps cap is painful , when you mash them all together.. game isnt testable..

sure if you still use 15-17 screen, you probably wont have much of problem..

some bigger betas i tested, l2 wow guildwars lotro aoc warhammer bunch of smaller ones.. and well i dont remember them all, and no im not giving away any accounts.. if it were for game only maybe, now it isnt
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jun 2010 02:03    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jun 2010 06:50    Post subject:
Smikis. wrote:
awesome 200 ppl telling me how i never tested shit, i didnt expect perfect game.. i expected more than first in house working build, cuz thats how it feels

music overlaps.. not only its annoying and you cant turn off.. half of the time you have 2 different songs playing , resoliution is 1280x720 or something like that.. which takes barely half of my 22 screen, which isnt even big by todays standards ( no you cant expand or fullscreen the game.. its stuck on that small window )

Not only its hard to see anything, controls are well bad.. camera is terrible.. yes pressing v helps.. but you need to press it every time you try to turn around pretty much .., 30 fps cap is painful , when you mash them all together.. game isnt testable..

sure if you still use 15-17 screen, you probably wont have much of problem..

some bigger betas i tested, l2 wow guildwars lotro aoc warhammer bunch of smaller ones.. and well i dont remember them all, and no im not giving away any accounts.. if it were for game only maybe, now it isnt


You posted this same text on the CB forums, didnt you? Cool Face
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jun 2010 10:51    Post subject:
thats cause he loves himself Very Happy

this thread not moving much for such a hyped game huh.. im guessing the eary stages of development are worse than Ive read of late..
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jun 2010 12:31    Post subject:
SilverBlue wrote:
Smikis. wrote:
awesome 200 ppl telling me how i never tested shit, i didnt expect perfect game.. i expected more than first in house working build, cuz thats how it feels

music overlaps.. not only its annoying and you cant turn off.. half of the time you have 2 different songs playing , resoliution is 1280x720 or something like that.. which takes barely half of my 22 screen, which isnt even big by todays standards ( no you cant expand or fullscreen the game.. its stuck on that small window )

Not only its hard to see anything, controls are well bad.. camera is terrible.. yes pressing v helps.. but you need to press it every time you try to turn around pretty much .., 30 fps cap is painful , when you mash them all together.. game isnt testable..

sure if you still use 15-17 screen, you probably wont have much of problem..

some bigger betas i tested, l2 wow guildwars lotro aoc warhammer bunch of smaller ones.. and well i dont remember them all, and no im not giving away any accounts.. if it were for game only maybe, now it isnt


You posted this same text on the CB forums, didnt you? Cool Face


its a report in a way Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jun 2010 16:38    Post subject:
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thats cause he loves himself Very Happy

this thread not moving much for such a hyped game huh.. im guessing the eary stages of development are worse than Ive read of late..


Well, its a console port. They say in one of their topics the game is best played with a fucking gamepad.

In the end the game does work just fine in this alpha test, its just that the fps are shit and controls are illogical.
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jun 2010 16:41    Post subject:
well plenty of time for hopes to kick in, but as normal with all devs and mmo's very many bugs of testing are in release from then normal pressure from publishers.. i dont think a dev team really likes to see something they create go out with bugs but alas that is the life of greedy cunts.
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jun 2010 18:01    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
well plenty of time for hopes to kick in, but as normal with all devs and mmo's very many bugs of testing are in release from then normal pressure from publishers.. i dont think a dev team really likes to see something they create go out with bugs but alas that is the life of greedy cunts.


every major mmo in last 3+ years came out unfinished.. and buggy .. its biggest reason wow is so big.. its not bugs that stops me from playing current ff.. its how its made.. if they release it like this to beta.. i have no hopes they can actually turn game 360 around and fix it to playable state.. sure ff fans will play it.. and it will sit on 100k subs barely supporting itself..
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jun 2010 18:57    Post subject:
Smikis. wrote:
moosenoodles wrote:
well plenty of time for hopes to kick in, but as normal with all devs and mmo's very many bugs of testing are in release from then normal pressure from publishers.. i dont think a dev team really likes to see something they create go out with bugs but alas that is the life of greedy cunts.


every major mmo in last 3+ years came out unfinished.. and buggy .. its biggest reason wow is so big.. its not bugs that stops me from playing current ff.. its how its made.. if they release it like this to beta.. i have no hopes they can actually turn game 360 around and fix it to playable state.. sure ff fans will play it.. and it will sit on 100k subs barely supporting itself..


Most new MMOs have to bring something to the table thats brand new and fresh or it will end up like all the other failures, a clone of WoW. Sad, but it will never change. Most of these guys just make MMOs so they can try to cash in, but if its fucking trash, good luck getting subs...
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 00:20    Post subject:
Hands down the worst test I've played.

The Global Agenda alpha was 10x better.

I cannot believe how bad the controls and the gameplay are... like, what were they thinking...

They need to go back to a more traditional MMORPG style, than this RPG shit trying to play massively multiplayer.

My brain is melting thinking about how awful it is and how miserable it is going to be.

Another shitty MMORPG to cross off the list of potentials.

I hope to god Guild Wars 2 is good, or the new Blizzard IP for an MM is at least decent.

Fuck, I'm pissed.


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 02:42    Post subject:
Phluxed wrote:
Hands down the worst test I've played.

The Global Agenda alpha was 10x better.

I cannot believe how bad the controls and the gameplay are... like, what were they thinking...

They need to go back to a more traditional MMORPG style, than this RPG shit trying to play massively multiplayer.

My brain is melting thinking about how awful it is and how miserable it is going to be.

Another shitty MMORPG to cross off the list of potentials.

I hope to god Guild Wars 2 is good, or the new Blizzard IP for an MM is at least decent.

Fuck, I'm pissed.


haha , finally someone with a sense .. i salute you sir..
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 06:20    Post subject:
Phluxed wrote:
Hands down the worst test I've played.

The Global Agenda alpha was 10x better.

I cannot believe how bad the controls and the gameplay are... like, what were they thinking...

They need to go back to a more traditional MMORPG style, than this RPG shit trying to play massively multiplayer.

My brain is melting thinking about how awful it is and how miserable it is going to be.

Another shitty MMORPG to cross off the list of potentials.

I hope to god Guild Wars 2 is good, or the new Blizzard IP for an MM is at least decent.

Fuck, I'm pissed.


Can you solo anything? I hated the first fucking game because you need 5 people to kill a small bug.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 06:30    Post subject:
Solon wrote:
Phluxed wrote:
Hands down the worst test I've played.

The Global Agenda alpha was 10x better.

I cannot believe how bad the controls and the gameplay are... like, what were they thinking...

They need to go back to a more traditional MMORPG style, than this RPG shit trying to play massively multiplayer.

My brain is melting thinking about how awful it is and how miserable it is going to be.

Another shitty MMORPG to cross off the list of potentials.

I hope to god Guild Wars 2 is good, or the new Blizzard IP for an MM is at least decent.

Fuck, I'm pissed.


Can you solo anything? I hated the first fucking game because you need 5 people to kill a small bug.


No


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 07:48    Post subject:
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Can you solo anything? I hated the first fucking game because you need 5 people to kill a small bug.


FFXI was all about team work, the best part of the combat system was that you can pull off amazing skill chains that require everyone in the party to work together. You can't find anything close to that in any other mmo's. If you don't like grouping then this game is not for you.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 08:22    Post subject:
This game does have some sort of chaining from what I have read. Its called "Battle Regimen" or something along those lines. Didnt get a chance to test it yet.

To answer a question, I managed to solo just fine in the first quest where I had to kill some stuff. Dont know how its going to be later on though, since this was only like the 5th part of the first quest you get. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 21:43    Post subject:
http://www.eorzeapedia.com/2010/06/15/ffxiv-benchmark-released/

Utility for benchmarks. Smile
(Benchmark Fantasy 14? not quite graphically pleasing like that 3DMark DX11 thing, probably, but it lets you select a character to view apparently which might be of interest.)
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 23:03    Post subject:
This thing works pretty good with a gamepad and not so good with a keyboard + mouse Sad

Mouse camera control is really bad. It behaves like the analog stick on a gamepad. You click to move the camera but when you move the mouse, it sets the intensity of rotation like an analog stick until you un-click or move the mouse into the initial position and does not "stop" like you would expect from any mouse-look control.
I didn't play much, just messed around with the controls a bit. Can't complain about the fixed resolution and lack of options because it's intentionally left out in the alpha. I can only guess that this current control config is just for the alpha also...because it's clearly a gamepad mirror for the keyboard and mouse.
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2010 23:07    Post subject:
I think that they'll try to get MMOs big on consoles with this game, too bad it's probably not gonna happen for a long time.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2010 12:49    Post subject:
Not bad, I guess.


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2010 12:54    Post subject:
benchmarks mean shit, play the game then decide Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2010 12:54    Post subject:
Based on the Guru3D topic I took that from 2000 - 3000 is normal for the high resolution mode and between 3000 to 4000 for the low resolution mode depending on hardware.
(A 4870 setup had a bit around 3000 and a GT 250 managed pretty well in the low resolution mode.)
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2010 13:12    Post subject:
How did u get ur driver to say u got a HD4870, mine is just saying HD4800 series...

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Guess loading time is bad cuz of ddr2-800 ram only Sad


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2010 13:19    Post subject:
No idea mate, I'm just using standard Cats 10.5 :\ Load time could refer to memory access, though I doubt it given how high the number is (29s for RAM access would make a Casio pocket watch look like a Cray Laughing) or, more likely, HDD access. RAM is a 2GB pair (4GB) of OCZ Platinum running at 950Mhz and HDD the game was ran from is a Samsung Spinpoint F1, my primary Windows HDD. I didn't bother to copy the files to my gaming HDD (1TB Western Digital Caviar "Black")
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2010 13:22    Post subject:
Any ATI reference card will say 4850 and 4870 I think it was, custom designs will only say 4800 series and I think the same goes for the 4890 both original and custom.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2010 13:23    Post subject:
Well mine is the XFX 4870-1G XXX model, so definitely not a reference board Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2010 13:25    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
No idea mate, I'm just using standard Cats 10.5 :\ Load time could refer to memory access, though I doubt it given how high the number is (29s for RAM access would make a Casio pocket watch look like a Cray Laughing) or, more likely, HDD access. RAM is a 2GB pair (4GB) of OCZ Platinum running at 950Mhz and HDD the game was ran from is a Samsung Spinpoint F1, my primary Windows HDD. I didn't bother to copy the files to my gaming HDD (1TB Western Digital Caviar "Black")


Well as for memory im on 2x 2gb OCZ gold edition DDR2-800 lat 5, as for HDD im on 2x 1TB Spinpoint F3 in raid0 setup, so thats kinda wierd :S

JBeckman wrote:
Any ATI reference card will say 4850 and 4870 I think it was, custom designs will only say 4800 series and I think the same goes for the 4890 both original and custom.


Ah that explains why, im on the ATI Sapphire HD4890 Vapor-x thats why its saying 4800 series then :\
Kinda lame from ATI to do that tho.


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2010 13:34    Post subject:
Damn man... kick-ass rig. Phenom II, HD4890, OCZ Gold and a pair of F3s in Raid0? I'm envious Sad
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