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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 19:22    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
iNatan wrote:
ixigia wrote:
I know that perhaps it might sound brutal, but for me setting



fixed the random stuttering/speed up issue on x64

This actually fixed the stuttering... But 30fps... Laughing

Yep, I told you it was brutal Razz
Anyway, the 30 fps cap doesn't annoy me more than the constant stuttering, so this is a good reason to leave the "tweak" enabled Smile

I'll give that a try in a minute then, maybe it works when it's set 30-35 or even higher as well? The game isn't exactly graphically demanding Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 19:27    Post subject:
Yeah, 30 fps + 360 controller, and it feels just like the console experience Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 19:28    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Overlord123 wrote:
atrox6661 wrote:
and the fact that most people still use XP also proves the fact. Enjoy your denial.

Nope, XP is down to ~38%.
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey





You know you are full of shit when even the silly Steam statistics prove you are wrong. Laughing


Sorry to bring this up again, but who the fuck uses steam still? Neutral


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 19:31    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
iNatan wrote:
ixigia wrote:
I know that perhaps it might sound brutal, but for me setting



fixed the random stuttering/speed up issue on x64

This actually fixed the stuttering... But 30fps... Laughing

Yep, I told you it was brutal Razz
Anyway, the 30 fps cap doesn't annoy me more than the constant stuttering, so this is a good reason to leave the "tweak" enabled Smile

I always cap the fps at 30 if a game has the option to do so, it conserves energy and I notice no difference between this and 60 fps.
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 19:32    Post subject:
Just started a game and i'm loving this. Sure , it's far from perfect but i'm still having a blast despite all the flaws. Believe it or not , i think i'm liking this more than Red Dead Redemption who i think is great but a bit overhyped.

The only thing that really annoy me is the goddamn ugly crosshair. Goddammit , why why why ? They could at least gave us the option to remove or chance it. Hopefully some mod will come for it in the future.

Back to the game now. Good stuff
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 19:36    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Overlord123 wrote:
atrox6661 wrote:
and the fact that most people still use XP also proves the fact. Enjoy your denial.

Nope, XP is down to ~38%.
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey





You know you are full of shit when even the silly Steam statistics prove you are wrong. Laughing


Just to clarify:

XP used by ~38%
Vista/Win7 used by ~62%

Exactly HOW are "most people" using XP these days? Unless the rest of us are living dead.

And these numbers come from steam where a lot of old-school CS-players etc. are still stuck on XP.


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 19:41    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
RainyDay wrote:

and - does killing the security guys (or secret service.. or whatever they are.. - the swat like guys) at the taiwan subway changes something ? Its supposed to be a stealth mission .. but... Laughing


Yes, it adversely affects Mina's relationship to you. Every innocent (and non government agents, like the street cops just doing their job) you kill; the more she hates you. As to how that could affect the game itself? I don't know, since I never did it Very Happy
i play this game like the new panther Sam with mark and execute and kill all that moves Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 19:41    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Yeah, 30 fps + 360 controller, and it feels just like the console experience Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 19:41    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
iNatan wrote:
Overlord123 wrote:

Nope, XP is down to ~38%.
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey





You know you are full of shit when even the silly Steam statistics prove you are wrong. Laughing


Just to clarify:

XP used by ~38%
Vista/Win7 used by ~62%

Exactly HOW are "most people" using XP these days? Unless the rest of us are living dead.

And these numbers come from steam where a lot of old-school CS-players etc. are still stuck on XP.


Just look at mosed used resolution and its 1280x1024, second in line 1024x786... Cool Face


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 20:05    Post subject:
game runs fine etc... but whats up with that "hacking" mini game... you dont have any time and the number just keep changing. When they stop you have short time to select it (takes some time with the gamepad). Worst mini game ever


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Yuri




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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 20:10    Post subject:
Yeah the hacking mini game takes a while to get used to..
Btw regarding Jibril Al-Bara in Rome,
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1 and 2 are still amazing.
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 20:11    Post subject:
Yuri, decide for yourself?

And yeah the minigames just take 3-4 times and you'll get through them really easy.
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 20:14    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:
Yuri, decide for yourself?

And yeah the minigames just take 3-4 times and you'll get through them really easy.


Damn it... I want to do the right thing!! Laughing



1 and 2 are still amazing.
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 20:17    Post subject:
dont know... the hacking mini game timer is to short i think.. the screen is full of random nr moving and shit... dam... who the F made up this crap.

Unreal 3 engine shows its "good" sides to... some times, like always in U3 engine, you get this low texture - high texture loading. Haven't seen any u3 engine game without this problem. Why do developers use this crap Sad

at least it runs fine... i give you that but thats about it...


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 20:20    Post subject:
discworld wrote:
dont know... the hacking mini game timer is to short i think.. the screen is full of random nr moving and shit... dam... who the F made up this crap.


I never had any problems with those, and I had no points in the skill that added more time to the minigams. Easy way is if you just look for the non-moving letters - best spotted if you try to look beyond the screen, just like when looking at stereograms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereogram
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 20:26    Post subject:
I know but sometimes it seems that all the number are moving. And when I find a still number it takes some time to get to it. Using Xbox360 pad to play because it feels like its made for the Xbox in mind. The game sure has some potential... but looking at the review's some one messed things up on the way.


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 20:40    Post subject:
discworld wrote:
Unreal 3 engine shows its "good" sides to... some times, like always in U3 engine, you get this low texture - high texture loading. Haven't seen any u3 engine game without this problem. Why do developers use this crap Sad


It ports well to consoles. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 20:43    Post subject:
atrox6661 wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
atrox6661 wrote:
Ya well any true gamer knows to stick with XP it is tried and tested, unless you want to play Just cause 2 D:


Rolling Eyes

I'm a true gamer and I have ZERO issues running every single game EVER on Windows 7. Troll less, think more.


Wow you have played EVERY single game EVER on windows 7? damn you must have allot of time and allot of HD space. lol wut

And it has been proven that allot of games have Issues on Windows 7 new and old so saying that all games run fine for you is just bullshit you are simply lying or you are just lucky enough to only play games that don't have issues.


I use Windows 7 64 bits for over a year and every single game worked fine. Windows 7 > XP. XP is fuckin' 6 years old and crappy. Why don't you switch to Win 98 or even better, DOS? Sounds like you'd enjoy those.
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 20:44    Post subject:
discworld wrote:
Unreal 3 engine shows its "good" sides to... some times, like always in U3 engine, you get this low texture - high texture loading. Haven't seen any u3 engine game without this problem. Why do developers use this crap Sad

This is a lot less apparent on newer builds of the engine, even in consoles (like for example, Mass Effect 2). This game uses a very old very old build, that is why you see the crazy texture loading.

H4wkeye wrote:
XP is fuckin' 6 years old and crappy.

6 year old? XP was released in September 2001.
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 20:46    Post subject:
peter980 wrote:
discworld wrote:
Unreal 3 engine shows its "good" sides to... some times, like always in U3 engine, you get this low texture - high texture loading. Haven't seen any u3 engine game without this problem. Why do developers use this crap Sad


It ports well to consoles. Very Happy


Sadly not this time. Alpha Protocol has absolutely THE worst texture pop-in I've ever seen in a game... far worse than Mass Effect or GTA4. And this is from HDD installed too Sad

H4wkeye wrote:

I use Windows 7 64 bits for over a year and every single game worked fine. Windows 7 > XP. XP is fuckin' 6 years old and crappy. Why don't you switch to Win 98 or even better, DOS? Sounds like you'd enjoy those.


Technically, it's ten years old if you count the betas and RCs, but nine years for retail.

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Damn you Leo! <3
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 20:52    Post subject:
And if you take into account that XP is just prettier Windows 2000, and that one was released in 1999 (disregarding betas, which were out in 98 as "NT 5"), and you have a pretty good idea how old XP really is. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 20:52    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
discworld wrote:
Unreal 3 engine shows its "good" sides to... some times, like always in U3 engine, you get this low texture - high texture loading. Haven't seen any u3 engine game without this problem. Why do developers use this crap Sad

This is a lot less apparent on newer builds of the engine, even in consoles (like for example, Mass Effect 2). This game uses a very old very old build, that is why you see the crazy texture loading.

H4wkeye wrote:
XP is fuckin' 6 years old and crappy.

6 year old? XP was released in September 2001.


Holy shit, I didn't know that :O
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 20:54    Post subject:
Hey Leo... if you really want to scare the man, show him that forum of losers obsessed over Win98 Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 20:55    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Hey Leo... if you really want to scare the man, show him that forum of losers obsessed over Win98 Laughing Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 20:58    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Hey Leo... if you really want to scare the man, show him that forum of losers obsessed over Win98 Laughing Laughing

I don't see why all the hate for Windows 98 really... It runs EVERYTHING properly and without bloat. It is PROVEN that games don't run well on XP (I PROVED it early on).

Here is the BEST forum EVER:
http://www.msfn.org/board/forum/8-windows-959898seme

With important threads such as:

  • Revolutions Pack 9.6
  • KernelEx 4.5 Beta 2
  • 98SE2ME = Killer Replacements: ME -> 98 SE
  • Windows 98 Live Cd Project (Update)


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 21:03    Post subject:
You guys are idiots.
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 21:05    Post subject:
Aww Fawe... don't be hatin'! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 21:12    Post subject:
Having started the game on normal (recruit) after having beat it on hard (field agent), I must say the game plays radically different on the easier difficulty setting.

On hard, the enemies really do have insanely good aim, along with the fact that you pretty much die in one assault rifle burst. All out combat isn't really an option and you're pretty much forced to be stealthy, at least until there's only one or two enemies left. Also, on the hard difficulty setting aborting a mini-game counts as a failure. Therefore, every hack you choose to undertake really means something - and it makes rationing out your EMP charges to skip the mini-game fairly important if you want to remain undetected.

On the flip side of things, the boss fights (and enemies in general) are INSANELY frustrating on hard. They soak bullets like sponges. Given that it favors stealth (and by extension pistols) the boss fights turn into massive trial and error. You can't stealth kill a boss (with the exception of one), and the pistols only really damage them when you critical hit. However, given that the bosses always know where you are, and quite a few of them use melee attacks that you simply can't block or run away from, lining up the critical hits means having to bug the AI.

Basically, normal with run and gun feels much too easy, while hard really kept the adrenaline pumping, but had bullshit cheating boss fights. Tough call, but I still think I prefer hard.


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 21:15    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
And if you take into account that XP is just prettier Windows 2000, and that one was released in 1999 (disregarding betas, which were out in 98 as "NT 5"), and you have a pretty good idea how old XP really is. Very Happy

Actually, if we're going down that road..XP is based on NT Kernel 5.1; Win2K was 5.0 - should've been a better version, but anyone who has actually experienced XP before SP2 knows that it was far from an improvement. I don't know how, but they fucked up the awesomeness that was Win2K Sad

XP being 6 years old is quite accurate, that's when it came out of beta really: SP2 was released in August 2004, that's almost 6 years ago Very Happy

sausje wrote:
Sorry to bring this up again, but who the fuck uses steam still? Neutral

Who the fuck still plays WoW? Cool Face


@ ixigia: didn't fix it for me yet, gonna play more with the INI files to figure this out, because it is fairly annoying Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 21:15    Post subject:
Good impressions Immunity. I started my game on Normal and had a bit of the same experience as you. The missions themselves are too easy and I had all the plans in the world to do a playthrough on Hard after that. But when I was about to start up my Hard playthrough I sat at the difficulty screen for a while and thought about how fucking crazy some of the bosses would be. So I decided against it.

Maybe for my third playthrough.
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