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you guys realize that profits from wow is what funds sc2, d3 and unannounced game.. and wow is still incredible game ( and no i havent been playing it a while, shove your childish hate for everything that is big, up your ass, and grow up its about time for that )
i swear wow bashing is so 2007, when its 2010, in forums where only 3% plays mmos, there are still someone who will find how or why to bash wow.. "oh look topic about blizzard, must blame wow for everything i hate in my life "
and whats with your lan, if you live where you dont have cable you wont have lan , its not like you can make lan with dialup.., you guys are bat crazy with your lan suggestions..
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 05:49 Post subject: |
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What is the problem with having the game online all the time anyways, people don't play starcraft for the stupid story missions, The only fun part about Starcraft was doing the multipalyer custom missions like tower defense etc. The story missions were not that fun at all I think 90% of the people getting the game are getting it to play it online.
If you are saying you are not going to buy it because of the DRM you are just bullshitting anyways because you probably wouldn't buy it either way. And really no one with any taste in good games plays RTS's for the campaign missions.
Facts & figures on obesity: Obesity is one the major health challenges worldwide and has become an epidemic over the last decades. Europe has the highest number of overweight and obese people in the world. The number of obese people has in fact tripled over the last 20 years in the Europe, according to the WHO. Today, over 130 million people are obese in Europe; approximately 10%-20% of men and 15%-25% of women. In addition, 400 million people are overweight in Europe.
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 06:14 Post subject: |
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| atrox6661 wrote: | What is the problem with having the game online all the time anyways, people don't play starcraft for the stupid story missions, The only fun part about Starcraft was doing the multipalyer custom missions like tower defense etc. The story missions were not that fun at all I think 90% of the people getting the game are getting it to play it online.
If you are saying you are not going to buy it because of the DRM you are just bullshitting anyways because you probably wouldn't buy it either way. And really no one with any taste in good games plays RTS's for the campaign missions. |
Net going down ??
Travel ??
Moving house ??
ETC ETC ETC
I refuse to buy any game that needs you to be online the entire time.. a one time activation i dont mind.. but fuck that24/7 bs
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 07:56 Post subject: |
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If your net is going down that often maybe you should get a new ISP. My net has gone down probably once in the last few years for a few hours and if you travel so much get some wifi.
Facts & figures on obesity: Obesity is one the major health challenges worldwide and has become an epidemic over the last decades. Europe has the highest number of overweight and obese people in the world. The number of obese people has in fact tripled over the last 20 years in the Europe, according to the WHO. Today, over 130 million people are obese in Europe; approximately 10%-20% of men and 15%-25% of women. In addition, 400 million people are overweight in Europe.
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 11:44 Post subject: |
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Anyone who says LAN is dead needs to STFU. Sure maybe you loner fags enjoy sitting in your house by yourself playing your games but some of us like to get together and socialise in person from time to time. Internet is still available sure but it's a pain in the arse running 500+ computers over a DSL2 connection. You can maybe give each computer 5KB/s which is enough to do basic web browsing and maybe do some auth shit with bnet which should then run games over LAN. Still I'd rather not have mandatory online crap for multiplayer it just adds unnecessary hurdles. Given enough time pirates will crack your l337 bnet server and run their own. This isn't like BC2 where no individual client is able to host games.
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 11:46 Post subject: |
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I spent countless hours doing WC3 TD on LAN parties tbh. Ah, the good old times.
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 12:03 Post subject: |
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| atrox6661 wrote: | What is the problem with having the game online all the time anyways, people don't play starcraft for the stupid story missions, The only fun part about Starcraft was doing the multipalyer custom missions like tower defense etc. The story missions were not that fun at all I think 90% of the people getting the game are getting it to play it online.
If you are saying you are not going to buy it because of the DRM you are just bullshitting anyways because you probably wouldn't buy it either way. And really no one with any taste in good games plays RTS's for the campaign missions. |
1 vote for most dumbass post of the year. |
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 15:17 Post subject: |
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| Kyorisu wrote: | | Anyone who says LAN is dead needs to STFU. Sure maybe you loner fags enjoy sitting in your house by yourself playing your games but some of us like to get together and socialise in person from time to time. Internet is still available sure but it's a pain in the arse running 500+ computers over a DSL2 connection. You can maybe give each computer 5KB/s which is enough to do basic web browsing and maybe do some auth shit with bnet which should then run games over LAN. Still I'd rather not have mandatory online crap for multiplayer it just adds unnecessary hurdles. Given enough time pirates will crack your l337 bnet server and run their own. This isn't like BC2 where no individual client is able to host games. |
i already gave example of sc2 game, where my download never exceeded 1.2 kb/s, and you guys going at it again with you imaginary numbers
you can play single player offline, i cant believe you guys are THAT retarded that you complain about needing to be online to play multiplayer games.. you just cant be serious about this shit..
maybe you should start complaining that you cant browse www without being connected.. would make as much sense as you do now..
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 17:06 Post subject: |
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Nobody should be surprised that there is no LAN option. Just wait for a crack and I'm sure someone will create a battle.net emulator at some point so you can play at LAN parties. So far, I really love the game, but some of the shit, like Facebook integration are lame as hell. None the less, it's still definitely worth buying IMO.
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 17:51 Post subject: |
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| atrox6661 wrote: | | If you are saying you are not going to buy it because of the DRM you are just bullshitting anyways because you probably wouldn't buy it either way. |
I agree 102% with that sentence, although I don't totally agree with the rest you said. People moan and bitch over issues which isn't fact or they generate false issues to give themselves a moral justification to why they 'have to' pirate something.
1. Blizzard says you need to one time register the game.
2. Blizzard hope it's new and improved battle.net will convince people into buying their product.
3. After the one-time registration online players will be able to play the single-player campaign in offline mode.
I've seen so much bullshit from a variety of people on this board moaning over issues which isn't issues that I've come to the conclusion they mainly do it to fool themselves. It's either that or they can't read. They say 'I will buy a game if it's deserving' and then they generate a variety of reasons for why xxx product isn't deserving. What's the problem here? You can play Starcraft in offline-mode so what's the problem? You want Blizzard to make a game you can play online without being connected to the internet?
And about LAN -- all I can say is this is 2010. If you want to be a pc-gamer being connected to the internet is pretty much a prerequisite as of today. Hell it's already been so for several years. If there isn't internet where ever you live I guess you need to buy a console. It's like whining about the inability to play a game because the software doesn't support your awesome 486 dx2 PC. I say it again: If you want to play modern PC-games today internet is a required minimum! The argument for LAN because soldiers in Iraq doesn't have internet was so stupid it made me LOL btw. Thanks for that one.
With that said I probably gonna pirate the crap out of Starcraft, but it's not because of some stupid generated reason. It's mainly because I fucking hate most RTS-games. I would never buy a Starcraft game ever. To be honest I don't really give a shit about Starcraft I'm only discussing it here because of the principle of this discussion.
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 20:02 Post subject: |
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| atrox6661 wrote: |
If you are saying you are not going to buy it because of the DRM you are just bullshitting anyways because you probably wouldn't buy it either way..
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People pirated StarCraft/WarCraft III all to hell, and then went to these third-party servers to play online, bypassing payment and validation altogether. There are literally millions of hardcore Blizzard RTS gamers who never once played a legitimate copy of StarCraft/WarIII on BNet, and who, given the chance, never would.
Make no mistake: this move to BNet-only multiplayer is 100% about Digital Rights Management. Blizzard don't want to get screwed like they did for the last ten years or so. Does it make this move OK? No, not in the least, but that's the method behind the madness.
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| Posted: Sat, 29th May 2010 15:05 Post subject: |
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| kenny64 wrote: | | Smikis. wrote: | | Ancient78 wrote: |
+111111
i cant believe what he just said !!
this is the dumbest post ever!  |
no its not.. you wanna know what is dumb, is you and 2 other guys who cant read
wanna know what else is dumb, complaining that you need to online to play multiplayer games.. like other 2 posters quoting him complained..
the fact that original poster is talking about multiplayer portion of the game.. is one.. the fact that you guys completely miss what hes talking about makes me puzled.. do you guys even read before coming to troll here?
Did you actually play single blizzard game?
or were you one of those garena kids who couldnt afford to buy wc3, which is half free by now , and now whining that lan is gone, since you cant rly say ' i was cheap ass pirate " so you start picking on that you need to be online to use multiplayer and you cant abuse lan option anymore..
i wonder how many more uneducated kids will post some retarded offensive reply towards simple and valid post... |
^ 2nd dumbest post. If you use your fucking eyes you see he was not just talking about multiplayer, but talking about how worthless single player missions are and why the fuck care about that since HE obviously don't. And are mistaking everyone to share his shitty opinions. |
wow another smartass right there , if you actually read whole topic and bunch of replies, not to mention if you actually played sc wc3 or any blizzard game for that matter, you would realize that hes pointing to multiplayer as reason to buy the game..
if you buying game for single player only, ur doing it wrong..
and following replies flames him and whole being online to experience multiplayer portion of the game, which frankly is retarded
so crawl to your cave until you can post something smart, not the first time you come up with retarded post kenny, but what can you expect from someone who have no imaginations, and uses south park names for nickname..
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| Posted: Sat, 29th May 2010 15:29 Post subject: |
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Yes, we all know Koreans have been playing SC everyday since it was released for the single player.
Facts & figures on obesity: Obesity is one the major health challenges worldwide and has become an epidemic over the last decades. Europe has the highest number of overweight and obese people in the world. The number of obese people has in fact tripled over the last 20 years in the Europe, according to the WHO. Today, over 130 million people are obese in Europe; approximately 10%-20% of men and 15%-25% of women. In addition, 400 million people are overweight in Europe.
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| Posted: Sat, 29th May 2010 17:52 Post subject: |
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| Smikis. wrote: |
if you buying game for single player only, ur doing it wrong..
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That's just your opinion, not some undeniable fact.
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| Posted: Sat, 29th May 2010 18:04 Post subject: |
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| inz wrote: | | Smikis. wrote: |
if you buying game for single player only, ur doing it wrong..
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That's just your opinion, not some undeniable fact. |
+1. Multiplayer is a focus of most Blizzard games, not the SOLE focus. A lot of gamers prefer to play alone. Nothing wrong with that.
| Sertorius wrote: | | Just be careful to your ass while surfing on the net and NOTHING will happen to you. |
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| Posted: Sat, 29th May 2010 19:05 Post subject: |
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| locke_digitalus wrote: | | inz wrote: | | Smikis. wrote: |
if you buying game for single player only, ur doing it wrong..
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That's just your opinion, not some undeniable fact. |
+1. Multiplayer is a focus of most Blizzard games, not the SOLE focus. A lot of gamers prefer to play alone. Nothing wrong with that. |
that still proves my point, about buying game for single player.. but whining about no lan.. same bullshit as whining about being connected to play online.. which is still most retarded thing said on teh internets
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| Posted: Sat, 29th May 2010 22:04 Post subject: Re: Blizzard: DRM a 'losing battle' |
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| Quote: | Fighting PC game piracy with restrictive copy protection is "a losing battle", Blizzard has said.
"That's a battle that we have a chance in. If you start talking about DRM and different technologies to try to manage it, it's really a losing battle for us
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Last year it emerged that StarCraft II will lack LAN support, a move that angered some veteran fans of the series.
Blizzard said the decision was taken to "safeguard" against piracy. |
Hypocrites. Constant bnet connection required for playing against my buddy in the same room on my LAN *is* DRM. It's the same kind of DRM as AssCreed2, applied to multiplayer
They're serious about it too, having sued people working on bnet 2.0 emulators and LAN enablers
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| Posted: Sat, 29th May 2010 22:31 Post subject: |
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SIGHT... some posts here look like they were written by offended virgins ffs...
So, you wave your flag saying "oohh i dont buy games because devs are trying to protect themselves from being robbed".... That's the same thing that not going to a store just because they lock up the doors when they close at night...
In my opinion, if the devs are trying to protect their work from being pirated, everything they do, they have full right to do it...
Ubisoft went a little far on that matter, but that's their decision, and they have their consequences now, but it seems now that ppl have the god given right to pirate property just because its protected...
I DONT agree with ubisoft DRM that prevents me from playing a game i bough if i dont have internet or their servers have problems (anything that i dont have responsability), but i also dont agree with all these posts writen by "crusaders", saying they have the right to steal...
Now ill leave, because i sense an army of "pirates" are going to call me all kind of names and maybe hack my PC while they are at it 
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| Posted: Sat, 29th May 2010 22:51 Post subject: |
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Your comparison is beyond terrible.
This kind of DRM is like.. Forcing you to cook and eat the food you buy at the store.
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| Posted: Sat, 29th May 2010 23:04 Post subject: |
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I don't give a fuck about games for peeps with obssesive compulsive disorders, which appear to be the 'niche' blizzard exploits, but I do get the shits when this board gets drowned in the whines and bluster of paid corporate pimps, and their gullible bunnies.
These wandering shills, eager to bludgeon those who don't see the way forward for any endeavour including gaming as being 'pay up or fuck off' the attitude that the software combines have had for too long, prowl the gaming boards harrassing posters for what? They cop miserable pay, being a stay at home liar is truly the bottom of the shit heap. No wonder they get so angry so easily.
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| Posted: Sun, 30th May 2010 06:08 Post subject: |
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| Smikis. wrote: | | kenny64 wrote: | | Smikis. wrote: |
no its not.. you wanna know what is dumb, is you and 2 other guys who cant read
wanna know what else is dumb, complaining that you need to online to play multiplayer games.. like other 2 posters quoting him complained..
the fact that original poster is talking about multiplayer portion of the game.. is one.. the fact that you guys completely miss what hes talking about makes me puzled.. do you guys even read before coming to troll here?
Did you actually play single blizzard game?
or were you one of those garena kids who couldnt afford to buy wc3, which is half free by now , and now whining that lan is gone, since you cant rly say ' i was cheap ass pirate " so you start picking on that you need to be online to use multiplayer and you cant abuse lan option anymore..
i wonder how many more uneducated kids will post some retarded offensive reply towards simple and valid post... |
^ 2nd dumbest post. If you use your fucking eyes you see he was not just talking about multiplayer, but talking about how worthless single player missions are and why the fuck care about that since HE obviously don't. And are mistaking everyone to share his shitty opinions. |
wow another smartass right there , if you actually read whole topic and bunch of replies, not to mention if you actually played sc wc3 or any blizzard game for that matter, you would realize that hes pointing to multiplayer as reason to buy the game..
if you buying game for single player only, ur doing it wrong..
and following replies flames him and whole being online to experience multiplayer portion of the game, which frankly is retarded
so crawl to your cave until you can post something smart, not the first time you come up with retarded post kenny, but what can you expect from someone who have no imaginations, and uses south park names for nickname.. |
Nice one. Kenny is a name exclusivly to South Park. And i play blizzard games primarily for single player and there is NOTHING wrong with that so shut up, I don't give a shit about your worthless opinions. I occasinally enjoy playing custom games on lan with friends, but i guess that's out of the question now.
AND if you say Blizzard almost only focus on multiplayer you should really really get your fucking facts straight seeing the immense lore behind Blizzard's games.
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| Posted: Sun, 30th May 2010 23:58 Post subject: |
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| Taffelost wrote: | | atrox6661 wrote: | | If you are saying you are not going to buy it because of the DRM you are just bullshitting anyways because you probably wouldn't buy it either way. |
I agree 102% with that sentence |
I don't. I was going to buy several Ubi games, and I didn't because of the DRM. No other reason. I'm not going to pay for that BS.
| Taffelost wrote: | | And about LAN -- all I can say is this is 2010. If you want to be a pc-gamer being connected to the internet is pretty much a prerequisite as of today. Hell it's already been so for several years. If there isn't internet where ever you live I guess you need to buy a console. It's like whining about the inability to play a game because the software doesn't support your awesome 486 dx2 PC. I say it again: If you want to play modern PC-games today internet is a required minimum! The argument for LAN because soldiers in Iraq doesn't have internet was so stupid it made me LOL btw. Thanks for that one. |
I'm glad I made you laugh. I was just giving examples of where LAN is still useful. If you are a suit and you only care about money, of course you're going to say "fuck the soldiers".
I'll give you my argument: every month a bunch of us (~20) get together for a LAN party. The place where we do it has no connection to the net. We've never needed it. Steam?. Offline mode. We have a lot of fun, and I pity anyone saying "hey, it's 2010, LAN parties don't matter anymore, play from your home with ADSL!". We are NOT buying any game that doesn't support LAN play.
Besides, here in Spain a lot of places still have dialup or rural ADSL, and playing SC2 or any other game that requires constant, uninterrupted, connection is just impossible.
I'm glad that you're so cool that you have a great connection and an always-online scheme is no problem for you. There's a lot more people in the world, and not all of them have access to ADSL or cable.
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| Posted: Mon, 31st May 2010 02:03 Post subject: |
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LAN isn't commercially interesting anymore you better face that fact because that's how the world revolve. Same goes for soldiers in occupied countries. They're not commercially interesting for a software developer. Oh and while we're at it it's not a software developer's business to entertain soldiers, it's the military's/government's. If they're unhappy with their soldiers mental health THEY put the money on the table to remedy it. That is unless given developer makes it his business to drain extra resources to do so. If I owned a publisher I'd say I pay my taxes just like everybody else and if the govt wants me to entertain their troops they better hire me to do so.
You can still LAN you just need internet to do so and if you can't keep up with the progress of the pc-world too bad for you. You either sort your infrastructure for your next LAN-party or stick to the old games that still support LAN. My heart cries for you boys without WAN connection in the same way my heart cries for ox cart coachmen and mechanical-stokers on steam trains. I'm sorry they lost their jobs. It was a bloody shame, but such is the world. I'm sure there's still a few of them around, but they're far too few to be commercially interesting anymore. Any other commercial enterprise in the capitalistic world pursue profit maximization. Why aren't software devs allowed the same? You and your 20 amigos without WAN isn't commercially interesting anymore.
It's about market mechanisms. Every corporation in the world follows them, same goes for software devs.
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| Posted: Mon, 31st May 2010 02:53 Post subject: |
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this thread is so full of fail, i dont know to either cry or laugh ...
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