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| zipfero wrote: | | man, LAN is dying...you cant really gather up anymore without a powerhouse connection available |
Exactly. And that sucks IMO.
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| Posted: Wed, 26th May 2010 21:35 Post subject: |
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Valve, Blizzard, and Bioware have no issues selling millions of copies of their games on the so called dead "PC" platform.
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| Posted: Wed, 26th May 2010 21:58 Post subject: |
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| dodger2020 wrote: | | Smikis. wrote: |
just 3 years ago, 90% of games had this wonderfull thing .. it says " please enter your cd key to continue installation " its basically the same
i cant believe how you making simple things into some nonsensical "blizzard is new ubisoft devil " you guys should look at what you write , all blizzard games had basically no protection , there was disc check.. and cd key check.. same for sc2..
noone uses lan to play anymore, so dont go bsing that lan was biggest feature.. it was smallest one.. if you wanna play with friends, buy the game..
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There you go spouting shit and speaking for others, as usual. CD keys were simple. I didn't mind them. I don't mind having to register the game initially like with battlenet. Doesn't bother me.
Lots of people still use lan play. Not everyone has a broadband connection or at least a reliable one. Out here in the boonies we've got a 1.5mbps connection. We're lucky if we get that. And if someone else checks their email, watches a youtube video, downloads a song, etc it makes any online game more or less unplayable.
But them, much like you, saying that lan was irrelevant is bullshit. Just because YOU and your vast army of "friends" might not use it, there are a lot that still do.
Starcraft I could not care less about as I never liked it anyway. But once Diablo comes around, no lan play will probably be my deciding factor on buying it or not as I did for the first two games.
| Quote: | | if you wanna play with friends, buy the game.... if not.. shut your mouth as you getting single player for free anyway , just like in every other pirated game |
Oh, and fuck you for making assumptions. Not everyone complaining about lan play is doing it because they want to play multi without buying it. When we play valve games we host local games or use a local dedicated server (for the ones that support it obviously). That way we avoid having to worry about the shit internet connection here mucking things up.
The no LAN play option has nothing to do with piracy. It has to do with control. If people want to play it multiplayer, they'll find a way. |
wow so you saying, you live in some desert ( phun intended )
i dont rly have clue what boonies means, so i googled..
| Quote: | | American, colloquial word for wilderness or places in the middle of nowhere, far from any civilisation |
any way, i was pretty much correct with my desert theory , so in any case you live in country side, without high speed connection, yet you claim to have huge lan in your area? you gotta be shitting me..
and for the fact, very few games uses more than 8kb/s which = 64kbs connection , which is almost same as dialup.. which is 56 kbs, and i just played sc2 custom game, with lots of units , and only once my dl speed went over 1.20 kb/s was 0.8 kb/s untill very end..
so fuck me but 1.5 mbs connection which equals to 192 kb/s , will never be too slow to play sc2 , maybe you ment the ping problem, well every connection is different, but im running torrent with upload 24/7 and not once game felt laggy ..
so unless you actually playing beta, which i doubt, dont go yaping about random shit gonna screw your gaming experience cuz there is no lan, for someone who got noone to lan with ..
how god damn stupid..
And unless its local lan, aka your flat or house, ( in generally made by you, not your provider ) it will be effected by ping.. so running lan when you got 900 ping cuz your provider lane is full, wont fix that issue..
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| Posted: Wed, 26th May 2010 22:03 Post subject: |
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Calm down Smikis.
And yes, losing LAN is horrible.
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| Posted: Wed, 26th May 2010 22:46 Post subject: |
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| Racecar101 wrote: |
Name a game other than warcraft 3 worth playing by blizzard then ?
couldn't care less about blizzard tbh and starcraft 2 still isn't even half as good as company of heroes.All blizzard have is WOW nice to have but hey I don't consider them a great pc game maker since warcraft 3.Times have changed. |
If you think Diablo franchise is not worth playing i feel safe to say you have some serious issues. No offense.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th May 2010 00:05 Post subject: |
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| mexeyz wrote: | | Racecar101 wrote: |
Name a game other than warcraft 3 worth playing by blizzard then ?
couldn't care less about blizzard tbh and starcraft 2 still isn't even half as good as company of heroes.All blizzard have is WOW nice to have but hey I don't consider them a great pc game maker since warcraft 3.Times have changed. |
If you think Diablo franchise is not worth playing i feel safe to say you have some serious issues. No offense. |
Like I said it's PAST glory times have changed all they care about is WOW which is why diablo 3 starcraft 2 have taken so long for them to get round to.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th May 2010 00:23 Post subject: |
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Blizzard ALWAYS took their time before releasing a game, thats why every game they release is a huge success. They want to be sure they have a good product before they release it , thats why it takes so long to release it, and not because of WoW.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th May 2010 03:56 Post subject: |
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| Racecar101 wrote: | | mexeyz wrote: | | Racecar101 wrote: |
Name a game other than warcraft 3 worth playing by blizzard then ?
couldn't care less about blizzard tbh and starcraft 2 still isn't even half as good as company of heroes.All blizzard have is WOW nice to have but hey I don't consider them a great pc game maker since warcraft 3.Times have changed. |
If you think Diablo franchise is not worth playing i feel safe to say you have some serious issues. No offense. |
Like I said it's PAST glory times have changed all they care about is WOW which is why diablo 3 starcraft 2 have taken so long for them to get round to. |
they started developing sc2 right after wc3 frozen throne shipped, which was way before wow release..
diablo 3 was started between 2005-2006 too.. dont have exact time..
and you know they have at least 4 dev teams, wow , sc2, d3, unannounced mmo
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| Posted: Thu, 27th May 2010 04:07 Post subject: |
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Making users register an account has been around for 10 years or more, It is the best DRM possible...Games I played back then that did this did have single player which if pirated could be played but no one cared about SP, just MP, The games only had cd checks and with a simple crack you didn't need the cd and could play online fine
CD key+ make users register an account, attach CD key to account or you cant play online, done, no need for all this bullshit DRM now days
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| Posted: Thu, 27th May 2010 13:19 Post subject: |
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Ubisoft DRM is 'a good strategy' - Namco
| Quote: | Ubisoft's controversial DRM system is "a good strategy" - but only because there is not better alternative, says Namco Bandai Partners VP, Olivier Comte.
Speaking to CVG in Barcelona this month, the Namco man argued that until something better is invented, the Ubisoft system - which requires a constant internet connection - is what the industry has to run with.
"I will be very honest. I think it's a good [approach] for one reason: I have no alternative today," he said. "Is the best one? Certainly not but as of today if I can make something else I'll do it, but it's better to do something than not do something.
"At the moment they are doing a good strategy," he said.
However, Comte - who's company is set to release Test Drive Unlimited 2 and The Witcher 2 on PC - digresses to add that the industry has "to put another system in place".
"We are analysing all of the situations. We have seen what Ubi and EA are doing, we've seen what Sony have announced for PS3 and it's clear that we need to make some choices," he said.
"I'm convinced that whatever system you put in place you can be sure that two hours before putting it out it'll be cracked in Russia. I think that the combat against piracy is very complicated because it's very complicated to explain to a 12-year-old that drag and dropping a file on a PC is piracy - he was born with this." |
I'm still surprised at the whopping amount of rubbish a man could emit in a few lines. 
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=248555
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| Posted: Thu, 27th May 2010 13:28 Post subject: |
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Indeed, making a better games is not an alternative strategy to DRM. 
Ah wait, my bad, they only make console crap. >_<
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| Posted: Thu, 27th May 2010 13:29 Post subject: |
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| ixigia wrote: | Ubisoft DRM is 'a good strategy' - Namco
| Quote: | Ubisoft's controversial DRM system is "a good strategy" - but only because there is not better alternative, says Namco Bandai Partners VP, Olivier Comte.
Speaking to CVG in Barcelona this month, the Namco man argued that until something better is invented, the Ubisoft system - which requires a constant internet connection - is what the industry has to run with.
"I will be very honest. I think it's a good [approach] for one reason: I have no alternative today," he said. "Is the best one? Certainly not but as of today if I can make something else I'll do it, but it's better to do something than not do something.
"At the moment they are doing a good strategy," he said.
However, Comte - who's company is set to release Test Drive Unlimited 2 and The Witcher 2 on PC - digresses to add that the industry has "to put another system in place".
"We are analysing all of the situations. We have seen what Ubi and EA are doing, we've seen what Sony have announced for PS3 and it's clear that we need to make some choices," he said.
"I'm convinced that whatever system you put in place you can be sure that two hours before putting it out it'll be cracked in Russia. I think that the combat against piracy is very complicated because it's very complicated to explain to a 12-year-old that drag and dropping a file on a PC is piracy - he was born with this." |
I'm still surprised at the whopping amount of rubbish a man could emit in a few lines.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=248555 |
He's also french, like Ubisoft. |
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| Posted: Thu, 27th May 2010 13:33 Post subject: |
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Besides, the days of Namco making great games died as soon as they let themselves get gobbled up by a fucking TOY COMPANY! You can practically smell the capitalism from them now, just like Ubicunts.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th May 2010 15:44 Post subject: |
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Deals with Namco are also a reason why Hasbro is suing Atari for misuse of their D&D license.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th May 2010 16:02 Post subject: |
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| Neon25 wrote: | Well, Namco as the publisher has some influence on protection chosen for the game ( I think) and the biggest title they're publishing right now is The Witcher 2  |
Don't worry, I'm sure the Russian version of Witcher 2 will be protected with condom, ehh I mean Starfarce, so it will be cracked fast.  |
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| Posted: Thu, 27th May 2010 16:43 Post subject: |
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well, they should think diferntly. ofcourse good games have a crucial inpact on sales, but, one big reason to people dwnload is that they cant\dont want to pay ridicolous prices for a game
EA new policy to sell online play for 10€ is a nice move and i guess if the games are good it will have big sucess
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| Posted: Thu, 27th May 2010 22:08 Post subject: |
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Real tired of hearing about over hyped PC piracy.Piracy on consoles is just as rampant with mod chips and flashing.This is just a campaign of propaganda,a lame excuse to leave the PC market.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th May 2010 22:39 Post subject: |
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LAN = obsolete. Maybe LAN was cool in 1990's, but not now. If you dont have access high speed internet, its time for you to move.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th May 2010 23:31 Post subject: |
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| todd72173 wrote: | | LAN = obsolete. Maybe LAN was cool in 1990's, but not now. If you dont have access high speed internet, its time for you to move. |
No, it's not. There's more world than New York, New York, you know?. Even in the US, a lot of places are still connecting via Dial-Up.
Everybody saying "hey, I have 100 Mb SDSL, who needs LAN anymore?" should STFU. A lot of people still lack decent Internet and need LAN. Not to mention troops in Iraq, students behind university firewalls and many, many more.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th May 2010 23:34 Post subject: |
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... Or people who like to have a small tournament in their homes. I know several people who host these "events" where a few friends bring their PCs and they plan on LAN. Seems kind of retarded to have to connect to a remote server in order to play a game locally.
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 00:52 Post subject: |
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| paketep wrote: | | todd72173 wrote: | | LAN = obsolete. Maybe LAN was cool in 1990's, but not now. If you dont have access high speed internet, its time for you to move. |
No, it's not. There's more world than New York, New York, you know?. Even in the US, a lot of places are still connecting via Dial-Up.
Everybody saying "hey, I have 100 Mb SDSL, who needs LAN anymore?" should STFU. A lot of people still lack decent Internet and need LAN. Not to mention troops in Iraq, students behind university firewalls and many, many more. |
Troops in iraq? If that's a viable market segment these days USA needs to chill the fuck down on the occupation business. When you sign up for military duty you give up some civillian liberties other people take for granted. Just saying..
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 02:15 Post subject: |
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| Racecar101 wrote: | | My hard drive shall remain blizzard product free until they release a good game last one was warcraft 3 I |
ummm.. they have only released one game since warcraft 3.... (World Of Warcraft)
+ The same people dont work on all the games
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